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Old 22-12-2016, 22:28
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I stopped watching after over 15 years of being a fan in March of 2015 after finally having enough of Blackburn. The only episode I've bothered watching since is the Live episode from September 2015.

Is it worth watching again? I've had a read through some of the current storylines/upcoming storylines..

Peter and Nick fighting over Leanne? AGAIN?
Bethany wants her mother's boyfriend Gary? What?
Something to do with Shayne Ward's character having an affair? Which I'm not surprised at considering Kate Oates loves affair storylines -sigh-

Somebody sell me on it please!
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:30
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No, it's not
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:36
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I watched last night and the only entertaining thing about it was Leanne's walk.
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:37
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I disagree ,it's improved....
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:37
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Absolutely not.
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:39
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I can't tune in either anymore
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:39
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I stopped watching after over 15 years of being a fan in March of 2015 after finally having enough of Blackburn. The only episode I've bothered watching since is the Live episode from September 2015.

Is it worth watching again? I've had a read through some of the current storylines/upcoming storylines..

Peter and Nick fighting over Leanne? AGAIN?
Bethany wants her mother's boyfriend Gary? What?
Something to do with Shayne Ward's character having an affair? Which I'm not surprised at considering Kate Oates loves affair storylines -sigh-

Somebody sell me on it please!
See for yourself, I certainly wouldn't let others influence your decision. Especially when we all like different things
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:41
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Depends what you like. It's very different than it was under Blackburn.

Now it's very fast-paced, stories have lots of plot-holes, characters' personalities change to fit the storylines, nothing has a lasting impact and storylines get very quickly wrapped up, forgotten and we're onto the next one.

If you like that sort of thing you'll love it. If you want a gritty, realistic Northern drama with clever writing and some gentle Manc comedy, you'll be disappointed.
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:43
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Depends what you like. It's very different than it was under Blackburn.

Now it's very fast-paced, stories have lots of plot-holes, characters' personalities change to fit the storylines, nothing has a lasting impact and storylines get very quickly wrapped up, forgotten and we're onto the next one.

If you like that sort of thing you'll love it. If you want a gritty, realistic Northern drama with clever writing and some gentle Manc comedy, you'll be disappointed.
But you definitely didn't get that under Blackburn.

I think it's better under Oates but not worth watching if you aren't already.
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:44
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It's just weird because Kate did such a good job with Emmerdale during her early days there. It seems she hasn't made any kind of impact whatsoever so far with Corrie.
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:45
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I like what's she done with the Barlows
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:46
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But you definitely didn't get that under Blackburn.
Quite. He didn't know what he was doing either.
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:51
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It may get better, apparently there's a writer called Jonathan Harvey who stated he is resigning because he's unhappy with his writing and is demanding a more diverse writer be employed to try and rescue the show. I guess he knows when it's time to admit it's time to breathe new life into it before the ratings get so low you could do a limbo dance under it.
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:52
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I believe she's been respectful to the cast..... She's not done any hideous character assassinations or axing spree's
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:58
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It's mediocre at best IMO.
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Old 22-12-2016, 23:18
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I believe she's been respectful to the cast..... She's not done any hideous character assassinations or axing spree's
It's a pity she doesn't show the same respect for the viewers who allow her the luxury of her position. If she doesn't want to do any character assassination or axing at this time there's enough on the forum to bring it to her attention when the time is right.
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Old 22-12-2016, 23:20
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She needs to be respectful to the viewers by axing Sean, Kirk, Beth, Chesney + Sinead.
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Old 22-12-2016, 23:38
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Not yet no. Watch the Christmas episode and go from there.
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Old 22-12-2016, 23:42
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She needs to be respectful to the viewers by axing Sean, Kirk, Beth, Chesney + Sinead.
Yes any producer worth their salt would get rid of that lot and Michelle and Fiz.

Alongside addressing other various 'stuck in the past' elements of the show like the reluctance to bring some of the sets up to date. eg. Dev's shop, Jack and Vera's old house. In this day and age the factory wouldn't survive full stop.

Making the comedy feel natural again and some new formulas for dramatic storylines (not doing poor rehashes of Hillman every few years) wouldn't go amiss either.

That's the benchmark for doing a good job. Otherwise you're just someone who covers up the rot like Collinson.
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Old 23-12-2016, 02:34
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Yes any producer worth their salt would get rid of that lot and Michelle and Fiz.

Alongside addressing other various 'stuck in the past' elements of the show like the reluctance to bring some of the sets up to date. eg. Dev's shop, Jack and Vera's old house. In this day and age the factory wouldn't survive full stop.

Making the comedy feel natural again and some new formulas for dramatic storylines (not doing poor rehashes of Hillman every few years) wouldn't go amiss either.

That's the benchmark for doing a good job. Otherwise you're just someone who covers up the rot like Collinson.
Perfect post LHolmes.

A massive cast clear out is now top of my list. In the past I thought that there were other more pressing issues, but the cast of 70+ is beyond a joke. There is simply no justification for the cast being so big. I don't buy any of the arguments that claim the increased number of episodes requires a larger cast. It's bollocks. The cast needs to be butchered and a new precedent set. Make a commitment to reducing the core cast to around 35-40 with some more solid recurring characters who are treated as such (homes and jobs away from the street, infrequent appearances).

Listening to Bill Roache discuss the early days of the show has really brought this home to me. In the 60s, the entire cast featured only around 20 characters and within that only a dozen of them were core. Even during the 70s, 80s and 90s, the cast hovered comfortably around the 40ish mark, which I think is closer to optimum. Corrie needs to go back to simpler times with better defined characters that they can spend more time on. Currently they barely scratch the surface with the majority of characters.
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Old 23-12-2016, 07:03
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I like what's she done with the Barlows
Daniel & Peter maybe but Ross Barton 2.0 (sorry Adam) can just go back to Canada.

Also time to ditch Phelan - every villain has a sell by date & he's reached his now.

It's funny at the time lot's of people were hailing Kate Oates as some sort of saviour but it's got even worse - especially in term's of character's personalities just changing to fit the plot.
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Old 23-12-2016, 08:52
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Perfect post LHolmes.

A massive cast clear out is now top of my list. In the past I thought that there were other more pressing issues, but the cast of 70+ is beyond a joke. There is simply no justification for the cast being so big. I don't buy any of the arguments that claim the increased number of episodes requires a larger cast. It's bollocks. The cast needs to be butchered and a new precedent set. Make a commitment to reducing the core cast to around 35-40 with some more solid recurring characters who are treated as such (homes and jobs away from the street, infrequent appearances).

Listening to Bill Roache discuss the early days of the show has really brought this home to me. In the 60s, the entire cast featured only around 20 characters and within that only a dozen of them were core. Even during the 70s, 80s and 90s, the cast hovered comfortably around the 40ish mark, which I think is closer to optimum. Corrie needs to go back to simpler times with better defined characters that they can spend more time on. Currently they barely scratch the surface with the majority of characters.
As much as I agree and there's a whole raft of characters that I don't feel I know much about as they haven't been developed, I can't see it happening. If anything, the cast is going to increase further under the excuse of the unnecessary sixth episode.
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Old 23-12-2016, 11:30
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Perfect post LHolmes.

A massive cast clear out is now top of my list. In the past I thought that there were other more pressing issues, but the cast of 70+ is beyond a joke. There is simply no justification for the cast being so big. I don't buy any of the arguments that claim the increased number of episodes requires a larger cast. It's bollocks. The cast needs to be butchered and a new precedent set. Make a commitment to reducing the core cast to around 35-40 with some more solid recurring characters who are treated as such (homes and jobs away from the street, infrequent appearances).

Listening to Bill Roache discuss the early days of the show has really brought this home to me. In the 60s, the entire cast featured only around 20 characters and within that only a dozen of them were core. Even during the 70s, 80s and 90s, the cast hovered comfortably around the 40ish mark, which I think is closer to optimum. Corrie needs to go back to simpler times with better defined characters that they can spend more time on. Currently they barely scratch the surface with the majority of characters.
Another good post.

The cast is too big. Not sure Corrie will ditch the big SLs because they feel the need to compete with the other soaps. However, that doesn't mean they can't do more character-led stuff. Some simple stuff without the forced attempt at humour and OTT characterisations/caricatures would be wonderful. Some good plain fare is needed!

The Hilda Ogden -Jean Alexander tribute was so good. The wonderful Hilda could do a scene all alone; just buzzing about and singing or talking to herself until someone like Annie Walker interrupted.

Even the iconic places aren't the same in Corrie. The Rovers is dead these days. There's hardly anyone in there and there's only ever one person behind the bar. There's no ambience whatsoever. Back in the day, the place was full of punters who were chatting and drinking and there was always a few people behind the bar. Now it's Michelle or Liz and they don't do much except stand around.

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Old 23-12-2016, 11:44
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I think its entertaining enough.
Kate Oates is doing a far better job than the previous!
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Old 23-12-2016, 11:50
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first up welcome to the forum

second, different ppl like different things, so u might like it ATM, for me tho its hit and miss, sometimes its ok, other times not

personally, i thought corrie was good in 2015, i enjoyed the Callum vs Platts story, and Tim and Sally, but i remember someone tryna start a argument with me (over a soap opera ffs!) on here months ago just cos i said i thought it was good in 2015, under the other boss. its like ppl can't have different opinions sometimes on here without someone starting on them

also i think ppl who moan about how shit they think it is should stop watching it altogether, i don't get why ppl who don't like it still watch it, its not a compulsion to watch it, so why are they wasting their time?
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