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Old 23-12-2016, 15:56
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But you definitely didn't get that under Blackburn.

I think it's better under Oates but not worth watching if you aren't already.
Don't think there's any improvement, as bad as ever.
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Old 23-12-2016, 15:57
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Some bits are OK. The Phelan bits are boring.
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Old 23-12-2016, 15:59
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Yes any producer worth their salt would get rid of that lot and Michelle and Fiz.

Alongside addressing other various 'stuck in the past' elements of the show like the reluctance to bring some of the sets up to date. eg. Dev's shop, Jack and Vera's old house. In this day and age the factory wouldn't survive full stop.

Making the comedy feel natural again and some new formulas for dramatic storylines (not doing poor rehashes of Hillman every few years) wouldn't go amiss either.

That's the benchmark for doing a good job. Otherwise you're just someone who covers up the rot like Collinson.
Not everyone dislikes Michelle and Fiz. So the producer should axe characters who've been in the show for over 10 years to appease some people?
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Old 23-12-2016, 16:57
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Not everyone dislikes Michelle and Fiz. So the producer should axe characters who've been in the show for over 10 years to appease some people?
There was a poll a while ago about favourite Corrie characters and Fiz got like 1 vote when Tim got like 50 or something. Basically no one likes her!
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Old 23-12-2016, 17:13
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There was a poll a while ago about favourite Corrie characters and Fiz got like 1 vote when Tim got like 50 or something. Basically no one likes her!
Well at least one person likes her if the poll is true.

I have seen a few posters post their like for Fiz on this forum.
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Old 23-12-2016, 17:23
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There was a poll a while ago about favourite Corrie characters and Fiz got like 1 vote when Tim got like 50 or something. Basically no one likes her!
not true. i like Fiz

i don't get the hate for her on here
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Old 23-12-2016, 17:24
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There was a poll a while ago about favourite Corrie characters and Fiz got like 1 vote when Tim got like 50 or something. Basically no one likes her!
How many millions of viewers does Corrie have and how many post on here? I see you're only 13 which explains a lot.
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Old 23-12-2016, 17:26
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Well at least one person likes her if the poll is true.

I have seen a few posters post their like for Fiz on this forum.
I hold her in high esteem for the way she showers 'erp and Roobeh with love and nutritious meals.
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Old 23-12-2016, 17:29
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I hold her in high esteem for the way she showers 'erp and Roobeh with love and nutritious meals.


You see, I knew I had read posts about Fizz that were sprinkled with admiration for the lady.

Cool_mate is fond of her too.
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Old 23-12-2016, 18:29
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There was a poll a while ago about favourite Corrie characters and Fiz got like 1 vote when Tim got like 50 or something. Basically no one likes her!
I don't like Fiz, but come on a poll on here hardly represents all viewers. And even then some people probably didn't bother with it.
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Old 23-12-2016, 18:52
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Perfect post LHolmes.



Listening to Bill Roache discuss the early days of the show has really brought this home to me. In the 60s, the entire cast featured only around 20 characters and within that only a dozen of them were core. Even during the 70s, 80s and 90s, the cast hovered comfortably around the 40ish mark, which I think is closer to optimum. Corrie needs to go back to simpler times with better defined characters that they can spend more time on. Currently they barely scratch the surface with the majority of characters.
Some good points KK, however the Corrie of the 70/80's is a different beast of the Corrie of today. One of the problems and whya larger cast is needed is due to now having 5, shortly increasing to 6 episodes a week

What watching Corrie now proves is its a case of quantity over quality. Corrie has a hugely loyal fan base and will watch pretty much anything no matter how bad it gets. So as a result ITV now want 6 episodes a week so they can sell even more advertising. The cast is perhaps too large and the quality is no longer there. Too many poor characters poorly developed and too many sensational storylines/ love affairs. Corrie probably think they need to compete with other soaps in the sensational storylines.

IMHO what it needs is better researchers, better writers and better actors. How many decent youngactors have there been in Corrie in past 10 years, very very few.

A massive clear out in Corrie is needed but it aint gonna happen unfortunately. KO may start to get rid if a few here and there and no before time but dont expect anything too drastic or any "much loved characters" to go, Sean, Michelle



A massive cast clear out is now top of my list. In the past I thought that there were other more pressing issues, but the cast of 70+ is beyond a joke. There is simply no justification for the cast being so big. I don't buy any of the arguments that claim the increased number of episodes requires a larger cast. It's bollocks. The cast needs to be butchered and a new precedent set. Make a commitment to reducing the core cast to around 35-40 with some more solid recurring characters who are treated as such (homes and jobs away from the street, infrequent appearances).
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Old 23-12-2016, 19:04
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Some good points KK, however the Corrie of the 70/80's is a different beast of the Corrie of today. One of the problems and whya larger cast is needed is due to now having 5, shortly increasing to 6 episodes a week

What watching Corrie now proves is its a case of quantity over quality. Corrie has a hugely loyal fan base and will watch pretty much anything no matter how bad it gets. So as a result ITV now want 6 episodes a week so they can sell even more advertising. The cast is perhaps too large and the quality is no longer there. Too many poor characters poorly developed and too many sensational storylines/ love affairs. Corrie probably think they need to compete with other soaps in the sensational storylines.

IMHO what it needs is better researchers, better writers and better actors. How many decent youngactors have there been in Corrie in past 10 years, very very few.

A massive clear out in Corrie is needed but it aint gonna happen unfortunately. KO may start to get rid if a few here and there and no before time but dont expect anything too drastic or any "much loved characters" to go, Sean, Michelle



A massive cast clear out is now top of my list. In the past I thought that there were other more pressing issues, but the cast of 70+ is beyond a joke. There is simply no justification for the cast being so big. I don't buy any of the arguments that claim the increased number of episodes requires a larger cast. It's bollocks. The cast needs to be butchered and a new precedent set. Make a commitment to reducing the core cast to around 35-40 with some more solid recurring characters who are treated as such (homes and jobs away from the street, infrequent appearances).
If Kate Oates is a bit squeamish about carrying out the necessary task that needs to be done all she has to do is bring in a specialist. One specialist armed with nothing more than a briefcase and a pen could clean that place out as quickly as it takes to fill out as many pink slips as needed.
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Old 23-12-2016, 19:10
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A massive clear out in Corrie is needed but it aint gonna happen unfortunately. KO may start to get rid if a few here and there and no before time but dont expect anything too drastic or any "much loved characters" to go, Sean, Michelle

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That ain't gonna happen while Kieron Roberts is in charge
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