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Spotify Films idea!
In theory, Spotify could develop Spotify Films.
The big selling point would be for the first time ever major cinema release films are streamed on Spotify Films at the same time! For example, Rogue One came out last week in the cinemas. Imagine you buy a subscription to Spotify Films and you're given a code to unlock Rogue One. It streams to your computer, tablet or phone. If you stream it to your phone the file would be smaller, perhaps, with the option of standard and high resolution. Laptop streaming could be larger files in HD and possibly 4k HD. Spotify would create a unique Spotify player app that comes with your subscription. The film file would be encoded only to play on the Spotify player app meaning it can't be re-encoded for Windows apps, VLC media players and other players. In theory this should stop copies and uploads onto bittorrent sites. Each purchase of a new Spotify film release would be added to the overall theatrical box office revenue. If 100,000 people streamed Rogue One then 100,000 x the cost of streaming the film would be added to the overall box office (subject to Spotify's share of the profits). Obviously Spotify would need to make some money streaming brand new cinema releases on its app. I wonder if this could work. Apple iTunes video content is very hard/impossible? to re-encode for Windows PCs. What I mean is you can buy a film on Itunes, find the file on your phone, transfer it to your PC and try and re-encode the film to play on the laptop - but it doesn't work. I think the same could apply with Spotify Movie files . Spotify would have the means to prevent re-encoding of the file and prevent uploads onto the net. |
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In theory, Spotify could develop Spotify Films.
The big selling point would be for the first time ever major cinema release films are streamed on Spotify Films at the same time! For example, Rogue One came out last week in the cinemas. Imagine you buy a subscription to Spotify Films and you're given a code to unlock Rogue One. It streams to your computer, tablet or phone. If you stream it to your phone the file would be smaller, perhaps, with the option of standard and high resolution. Laptop streaming could be larger files in HD and possibly 4k HD. Spotify would create a unique Spotify player app that comes with your subscription. The film file would be encoded only to play on the Spotify player app meaning it can't be re-encoded for Windows apps, VLC media players and other players. In theory this should stop copies and uploads onto bittorrent sites. Each purchase of a new Spotify film release would be added to the overall theatrical box office revenue. If 100,000 people streamed Rogue One then 100,000 x the cost of streaming the film would be added to the overall box office (subject to Spotify's share of the profits). Obviously Spotify would need to make some money streaming brand new cinema releases on its app. I wonder if this could work. Apple iTunes video content is very hard/impossible? to re-encode for Windows PCs. What I mean is you can buy a film on Itunes, find the file on your phone, transfer it to your PC and try and re-encode the film to play on the laptop - but it doesn't work. I think the same could apply with Spotify Movie files . Spotify would have the means to prevent re-encoding of the file and prevent uploads onto the net. |
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Some films are already released for streaming around the theatrical release date, but if the USP of this "Spotify of films" is that you can watch them on your phone, what's the point? You'd end up paying a premium price to be able to watch films that were made to be seen on high screens in reduced quality on tiny screens.
Making films look worse and cost more to watch is not a great use of technology, is it? |
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In theory, Spotify could develop Spotify Films.
The big selling point would be for the first time ever major cinema release films are streamed on Spotify Films at the same time! For example, Rogue One came out last week in the cinemas. Imagine you buy a subscription to Spotify Films and you're given a code to unlock Rogue One. It streams to your computer, tablet or phone. If you stream it to your phone the file would be smaller, perhaps, with the option of standard and high resolution. Laptop streaming could be larger files in HD and possibly 4k HD. Spotify would create a unique Spotify player app that comes with your subscription. The film file would be encoded only to play on the Spotify player app meaning it can't be re-encoded for Windows apps, VLC media players and other players. In theory this should stop copies and uploads onto bittorrent sites. Each purchase of a new Spotify film release would be added to the overall theatrical box office revenue. If 100,000 people streamed Rogue One then 100,000 x the cost of streaming the film would be added to the overall box office (subject to Spotify's share of the profits). Obviously Spotify would need to make some money streaming brand new cinema releases on its app. I wonder if this could work. Apple iTunes video content is very hard/impossible? to re-encode for Windows PCs. What I mean is you can buy a film on Itunes, find the file on your phone, transfer it to your PC and try and re-encode the film to play on the laptop - but it doesn't work. I think the same could apply with Spotify Movie files . Spotify would have the means to prevent re-encoding of the file and prevent uploads onto the net. And if you were to try and counter that by charging the same for such media or more, who would want to pay more money to see a film on a smaller device than on the big screen? |
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In theory, Spotify could develop Spotify Films.
The big selling point would be for the first time ever major cinema release films are streamed on Spotify Films at the same time! For example, Rogue One came out last week in the cinemas. Imagine you buy a subscription to Spotify Films and you're given a code to unlock Rogue One. It streams to your computer, tablet or phone. If you stream it to your phone the file would be smaller, perhaps, with the option of standard and high resolution. Laptop streaming could be larger files in HD and possibly 4k HD. Spotify would create a unique Spotify player app that comes with your subscription. The film file would be encoded only to play on the Spotify player app meaning it can't be re-encoded for Windows apps, VLC media players and other players. In theory this should stop copies and uploads onto bittorrent sites. Each purchase of a new Spotify film release would be added to the overall theatrical box office revenue. If 100,000 people streamed Rogue One then 100,000 x the cost of streaming the film would be added to the overall box office (subject to Spotify's share of the profits). Obviously Spotify would need to make some money streaming brand new cinema releases on its app. I wonder if this could work. Apple iTunes video content is very hard/impossible? to re-encode for Windows PCs. What I mean is you can buy a film on Itunes, find the file on your phone, transfer it to your PC and try and re-encode the film to play on the laptop - but it doesn't work. I think the same could apply with Spotify Movie files . Spotify would have the means to prevent re-encoding of the file and prevent uploads onto the net. Studios however will not introduce a Spotify system as films work in a completely different way to music. Where music is largely released simultaneosly worldwide and available both through physical and digital formats films have several layers of distribution from cinema to physical and download sales and rental followed by a cable, satellite and streaming windows before ending up on broadcast TV and then another round of limited windows squeezing every last $ out of a film. Where there might be scope for a Spotify type service is the huge range of back catalogue films that have already done the rounds which could provide another revenue route. There are millions of us who have often watched old films more than once and how many people for instance have been trying to find if Elf is being shown anywhere just here in Digital Spy. It's quite interesting though that other areas of the media have also been looking at spotify type services especially news media where print is disappearing fast and online advertising is struggling to support traditional news media online news as Facebook and Google are reported to be taking around 71% of the advertising revenue in 2017. Paywall hasn't worked too well for online news with the Sun dropping it and the Telegraph recently allowing 80% of it to be freely available. |
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I had an idea a while back that if you present your cinema ticket when buying the Bly-Ray you get a discount.
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The film file would be encoded only to play on the Spotify player app meaning it can't be re-encoded for Windows apps, VLC media players and other players. In theory this should stop copies and uploads onto bittorrent sites.
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Just like the Amazon and Netflix exclusives are not available for download on the day they're released ? I think you underestimate the technical ability of the pirates.
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I wonder if this could work. Apple iTunes video content is very hard/impossible? to re-encode for Windows PCs. What I mean is you can buy a film on Itunes, find the file on your phone, transfer it to your PC and try and re-encode the film to play on the laptop - but it doesn't work. I think the same could apply with Spotify Movie files . Spotify would have the means to prevent re-encoding of the file and prevent uploads onto the net. Even the HDMI feed is possible to crack so you don't need to mess around with the file itself when you can capture the picture on its way to the TV |
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When the ultra high security box was mooted last year that would enable day and date showing of films in the home. Many noted that just filming the picture from a HDTV screen would provide a far better image than many of pirated downloads of the film in its first few weeks of release
Even the HDMI feed is possible to crack so you don't need to mess around with the file itself when you can capture the picture on its way to the TV |
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