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The Queen and Prince Philip's 'heavy colds'
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mrsgrumpy49
23-12-2016
I thought this sounded suspect from the start. Apart from which older people are less likely to get a cold because they have already been subject to a huge variety of germs (that said us ordinary folks haven't been cosseted in the same way ).
Next thing they are off to Sandringham by helicopter which is most unusual.
Am I being a bit tin foil hat to suspect that there may have been something else going on - like a specific security alert?
molliepops
23-12-2016
I think the journey in their 90s was likely a bit daunting, with a cold too they probably didn't feel up to it. That's all.
Richard46
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by molliepops:
“I think the journey in their 90s was likely a bit daunting, with a cold too they probably didn't feel up to it. That's all.”

Perhaps but for instance my mother is a couple of years older than the Queen and she still drives herself on short -medium journeys.

NB I wish she would'nt though to be honest.
tiacat
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by Richard46:
“Perhaps but for instance my mother is a couple of years older than the Queen and she still drives herself on short -medium journeys.

NB I wish she would'nt though to be honest. ”

Does she do it when she has a heavy cold, shivering and hot, not breathing that well, headache, aches and pains, not eating, not sleeping, exhausted?
claire2281
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by mrsgrumpy49:
“I thought this sounded suspect from the start. Apart from which older people are less likely to get a cold because they have already been subject to a huge variety of germs...”

Older people are often less exposed to colds due to less contact with the most frequent carries (young children). They have immunity to SOME strands of virus due to previous exposure but the virus mutates often.

Older people are more vulnerable to the side effects of colds and their immune system is less able to deal with it easily.

So the idea that two 90 year olds might be ill enough with a cold to not feel up to travelling is hardly conspiracy worthy.
molliepops
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by Richard46:
“Perhaps but for instance my mother is a couple of years older than the Queen and she still drives herself on short -medium journeys.

NB I wish she would'nt though to be honest. ”

It's a worry when they get too old in our eyes but not in theirs, we eventually took car keys away from my granddad after seeing him driving and nearly having a panic attack in fear. He never did admit he shouldn't drive but it was safer for him and everyone else.
thirstyelephant
23-12-2016
It defo sounds like there was a security threat but we won't hear about it if there was.
shaddler
23-12-2016
The colds probably sapped the energy they need to maintain their human form.
GusGus
23-12-2016
It's not as if the Queen or Phillip were going to drive themselves, and certainly not in a Nissan Micra
They have the choice of just about every luxury car made, with a chauffeur and attendants for their every needs
I too suspect that there is much more to this than "heavy colds"
dee123
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by shaddler:
“The colds probably sapped the energy they need to maintain their human form.”

LOL
D_Mcd4
23-12-2016
Who knows? Maybe her or Philip are weaker than suggested? A cold in your 90s is not be taken lightly. Let's face it, the Royals have always been very private about illness. They want to portray this image of being fit and healthy right up to they die.
Welsh-lad
23-12-2016
There's already a lengthy thread on this isn't there.

Definitely security issue. I think it's Catholics. They wanted to derail her at Kings Cross by laying rosaries on the track.
too_much_coffee
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by molliepops:
“It's a worry when they get too old in our eyes but not in theirs, we eventually took car keys away from my granddad after seeing him driving and nearly having a panic attack in fear. He never did admit he shouldn't drive but it was safer for him and everyone else.”

We did the same with my mother and she still complains constantly - the roads are much safer without her driving though...

It's actually far cheaper for her to take taxis that have the upkeep of a car too.
stoatie
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by shaddler:
“The colds probably sapped the energy they need to maintain their human form.”

Do lizards even GET colds? Something doesn't add up! All the hallmarks, false flag etc...
Dotheboyshall
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by stoatie:
“Do lizards even GET colds? Something doesn't add up! All the hallmarks, false flag etc...”

The Guinea Pigs they eat had the colds.
molliepops
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by GusGus:
“It's not as if the Queen or Phillip were going to drive themselves, and certainly not in a Nissan Micra
They have the choice of just about every luxury car made, with a chauffeur and attendants for their every needs
I too suspect that there is much more to this than "heavy colds"”

No they would have been on a train and we all know how bad they are these days.
St Dabeoc
23-12-2016
I just feel sorry for the poor Queen having to get out of her sick bed on Christmas day and read out her Christmas Message
That's dedication
InMyArms
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by St Dabeoc:
“I just feel sorry for the poor Queen having to get out of her sick bed on Christmas day and read out her Christmas Message
That's dedication”

I can't believe people actually sit around the TV for 10 minutes on Christmas day to hear a 90 year old woman's ramblings about God.

Give my Grandma a sherry if you want real entertainment
blueblade
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by St Dabeoc:
“I just feel sorry for the poor Queen having to get out of her sick bed on Christmas day and read out her Christmas Message
That's dedication”

It's recorded about two weeks before Christmas. Not live.
blueblade
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by InMyArms:
“I can't believe people actually sit around the TV for 10 minutes on Christmas day to hear a 90 year old woman's ramblings about God.

Give my Grandma a sherry if you want real entertainment ”

Believe it or not, there are many millions who would prefer to hear what the Queen, with nearly 65 years of experience and service has to say, than much of the inane shite emanating from the mouths of those much younger.

Strange to some, but very true.
InMyArms
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by blueblade:
“Believe it or not, there are many millions who would prefer to hear what the Queen, with nearly 65 years of experience and service has to say, than much of the inane shite emanating from the mouths of those much younger.

Strange to some, but very true.”

I'd be interested to hear her real opinions too because I imagine she has seen some things on her trips that the rest of us have not, but her speech wouldn't give you any more than a segment on her faith and then something about family/unity/whatever other non-controversial topic has been chosen.

If she was going to talk for 10 minutes about her disagreements in meetings with Margaret Thatcher or Tony Blair I would be interested.
Blondie X
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by D_Mcd4:
“Who knows? Maybe her or Philip are weaker than suggested? A cold in your 90s is not be taken lightly. Let's face it, the Royals have always been very private about illness. They want to portray this image of being fit and healthy right up to they die.”

I believe it is a open secret that Phillip has had cancer at least once and so his immune system may not be what it once was.

It *could* be something more but it's not outside the realms of possibility that two very old people might not be up to a long journey in the height of winter
St Dabeoc
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by blueblade:
“It's recorded about two weeks before Christmas. Not live.”

No I don't believe you. There's a tree and everything, probably
What name??
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by blueblade:
“Believe it or not, there are many millions who would prefer to hear what the Queen, with nearly 65 years of experience and service has to say, than much of the inane shite emanating from the mouths of those much younger.

Strange to some, but very true.”

I suspect that's not true and it's merely one of the things many people have to do at Christmas to stop someone who has your opinion going on about the queen's 65 years of experience and service - much like cooking sprouts even though nobody likes them.
mrsgrumpy49
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by St Dabeoc:
“No I don't believe you. There's a tree and everything, probably”

They really need to do a sarcasm smiley
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