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Old 28-12-2016, 15:43
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He's had several number 1s this year, but ignorance is bliss for you I guess. What a joke, honestly...
All of SYCO's 2016 #1s have been from acts that have been on the roster for several years. With the exception of the winner's single, no XF act from the last 4 years has had an original song #1. James Arthur is from 2012, he's the most recent act to go #1.
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Old 28-12-2016, 18:31
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Because she's a cold opportunist being propped up by cold corporation of opportunists?

Because she offers nothing of cultural value?

Because she's devoid of talent and has no heart or humour to make up for it?

Because she's the most crystallised avatar we have available at the moment of everything that has gone wrong with X Factor and, to some extent, the culture industry itself?

Because her' humorous' persona is either tragically un-self-aware or based on a somewhat condescending and mocking cultural appropriation that can be argued to be at least a little bit obnoxious if not overtly racist.

I mean, I'm pretty indifferent as to whether she does well or whether she bombs. I don't really care either way. My take is that she's a pretty unsophisticated one-note joke that wasn't funny in the first place, let alone for it's fiftieth repetition. But I'm not going to sit here and pretend there isn't a whole myriad of reasons as to why she could be considered legitimately objectionable that are just as valid and probably more so than 'she's just trying to make some money good luck to her lol'
Great post. Just to add it's not even like she needs the money either, she's as middle class as they come with her 'mummy G' on the piano while Honey herself owns her own agency in London.
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Old 28-12-2016, 18:39
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Great post. Just to add it's not even like she needs the money either, she's as middle class as they come with her 'mummy G' on the piano while Honey herself owns her own agency in London.
It is a great post and 100% spot on.

I don't really get the 'she's not doing any harm and only trying to make some money so I wish her well' type comments.
Does that mean that any talent free useless lumps who just think they deserve to be rich and famous should be applauded? If she had shown an ounce of humility and humour, I might wish her well but, no, can't do it
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Old 28-12-2016, 19:12
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I think she needs help and they should not encourage her ,at her age to think she is some mega rap star is very sad and dangerous
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Old 28-12-2016, 19:16
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He's had several number 1s this year, but ignorance is bliss for you I guess. What a joke, honestly...
Well he really hasn't ,several meaning 7 or more mmmm little mix yeh he wrote that song ,james Arther mmmm yeh was a hit and he then resigned him after dumping him ,who else no carnt think of any more Susan Boyle ,the girl who won last year no number one for her ,sorry Louis you lost on this one give Simon my love

Reggie and bollie there one of he's acts did they have a number one mmmmm nope
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Old 28-12-2016, 21:14
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Great post. Just to add it's not even like she needs the money either, she's as middle class as they come with her 'mummy G' on the piano while Honey herself owns her own agency in London.
Her company has gone bust:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...-X-Factor.html

Maybe she entered X Factor to try and start a different career?

Simon will have built her hopes up by signing her, so I don't know how she will react if the single bombs.
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Old 28-12-2016, 22:15
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Simon will have built her hopes up by signing her, so I don't know how she will react if the single bombs.
Well, I'm sure Honey G will be happy enough performing her song at every gig as part of the X Factor Tour. Beyond that, many people think Honey G will become one of those Z list celebrities and do the rounds going on Celebrity Big Brother, Celebrity Come Dine With Me, Celebrity Pointless, I'm A Celebrity...Get Me Out Of Here, etc...

All of SYCO's 2016 #1s have been from acts that have been on the roster for several years. With the exception of the winner's single, no XF act from the last 4 years has had an original song #1. James Arthur is from 2012, he's the most recent act to go #1.
Well he really hasn't ,several meaning 7 or more mmmm little mix yeh he wrote that song ,james Arther mmmm yeh was a hit and he then resigned him after dumping him ,who else no carnt think of any more Susan Boyle ,the girl who won last year no number one for her ,sorry Louis you lost on this one give Simon my love

Reggie and bollie there one of he's acts did they have a number one mmmmm nope
Thank you Rachel and Hackettboy, two people who successfully understood my point.
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Old 28-12-2016, 22:29
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Well he really hasn't ,several meaning 7 or more mmmm
Several means more than two.
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Old 28-12-2016, 22:29
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He's had several number 1s this year, but ignorance is bliss for you I guess. What a joke, honestly...
Um. He's had one - Little Mix.

Zayn is signed to RCA nowadays and Cowell had nothing to do with his record.

James Arthur is signed to Columbia and only 're-signed' with Syco *after* Say You Won't Let Go had already been released so you can't really claim it's much to do with Cowell. If anything it smacks of Syco opportunistically picking up an option they have written into the draconian contracts of all live show alumni for a bit of good PR and not much else, as the single was clearly going to do well. Either way, Cowell had next to nothing to do with it.

Even if you very generously count all three as 'Cowell records' (and you really, really can't) I still wouldn't call three 'several'. A 'handful' maybe, but it would be pushing it. A 'couple' would be about right.
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Old 28-12-2016, 23:26
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Um. He's had one - Little Mix.

Zayn is signed to RCA nowadays and Cowell had nothing to do with his record.

James Arthur is signed to Columbia and only 're-signed' with Syco *after* Say You Won't Let Go had already been released so you can't really claim it's much to do with Cowell. If anything it smacks of Syco opportunistically picking up an option they have written into the draconian contracts of all live show alumni for a bit of good PR and not much else, as the single was clearly going to do well. Either way, Cowell had next to nothing to do with it.

Even if you very generously count all three as 'Cowell records' (and you really, really can't) I still wouldn't call three 'several'. A 'handful' maybe, but it would be pushing it. A 'couple' would be about right.
Well there were only 11 number 1s this year which feels like way less than other years, maybe I'm wrong, but 2 out of 11 + international success (look how huge Fifth Harmony have been this year in the US & elsewhere) is not a flop or in any way poor. Remember the charts have been changed forever through streaming.

And also, another example - although Calum Scott isn't signed to a Cowell label, had he not appeared on a Syco TV show for around 13m to see, he may not have had the opportunity to produce that hit record he had over the summer. Syco's support for artists spreads further than just management - he can help in several other, less direct ways.

To you and all the other people calling Simon a flop, why don't you try and do better? Start your own label and see how long it lasts. I give it...a few months tops, before you give up, or fail, or just can't be asked. You're all so desperate to spin him as a failure and incompetent which clearly cannot be the case - but keyboard warriors never let logic stand in their way do they.
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Old 29-12-2016, 01:24
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Well there were only 11 number 1s this year which feels like way less than other years, maybe I'm wrong, but 2 out of 11 + international success (look how huge Fifth Harmony have been this year in the US & elsewhere) is not a flop or in any way poor. Remember the charts have been changed forever through streaming.

And also, another example - although Calum Scott isn't signed to a Cowell label, had he not appeared on a Syco TV show for around 13m to see, he may not have had the opportunity to produce that hit record he had over the summer. Syco's support for artists spreads further than just management - he can help in several other, less direct ways.

To you and all the other people calling Simon a flop, why don't you try and do better? Start your own label and see how long it lasts. I give it...a few months tops, before you give up, or fail, or just can't be asked. You're all so desperate to spin him as a failure and incompetent which clearly cannot be the case - but keyboard warriors never let logic stand in their way do they.
Simon's not a flop, that's Honey G. What I am saying is that Simon seems to have lost his so-called "magic touch".

Who has he signed that has gone big in the last few years?

Little Mix were on XF in 2011. James Arthur was 2012 and he was dropped before his recent success.

2013 gave us Sam Bailey. 2014 was the year of Ben Haenow and Fleur East. After a promising start (but not a #1), Fleur has become something of a one-hit wonder.

2015 gave us Louisa Johnson. After finagling her a feature on a song from a hit group, she managed a #5. Yet that same group's next song went right to #1. Her own song peaked at #13. Her album has been postponed.

R&B certainly didn't achieve major success.

Simon chose not to sign Calum Scott. He doesn't get credit for his success.

So again, I'd say Simon is not living up to his reputation for reading what the public wants. Honey G is just the most blatant example.
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Old 29-12-2016, 03:55
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Well there were only 11 number 1s this year which feels like way less than other years, maybe I'm wrong, but 2 out of 11 + international success (look how huge Fifth Harmony have been this year in the US & elsewhere) is not a flop or in any way poor. Remember the charts have been changed forever through streaming.

And also, another example - although Calum Scott isn't signed to a Cowell label, had he not appeared on a Syco TV show for around 13m to see, he may not have had the opportunity to produce that hit record he had over the summer. Syco's support for artists spreads further than just management - he can help in several other, less direct ways.

To you and all the other people calling Simon a flop, why don't you try and do better? Start your own label and see how long it lasts. I give it...a few months tops, before you give up, or fail, or just can't be asked. You're all so desperate to spin him as a failure and incompetent which clearly cannot be the case - but keyboard warriors never let logic stand in their way do they.
Where did I call him a flop? I didn't

I was simply correcting your overstating of the number of number ones he's had any involvement in.

Your defensiveness of a remote television personality/ music industry 'mogul' is a bit weird.
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Old 29-12-2016, 08:02
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Simon's not a flop, that's Honey G. What I am saying is that Simon seems to have lost his so-called "magic touch".

Who has he signed that has gone big in the last few years?

Little Mix were on XF in 2011. James Arthur was 2012 and he was dropped before his recent success.

2013 gave us Sam Bailey. 2014 was the year of Ben Haenow and Fleur East. After a promising start (but not a #1), Fleur has become something of a one-hit wonder.

2015 gave us Louisa Johnson. After finagling her a feature on a song from a hit group, she managed a #5. Yet that same group's next song went right to #1. Her own song peaked at #13. Her album has been postponed.

R&B certainly didn't achieve major success.

Simon chose not to sign Calum Scott. He doesn't get credit for his success.

So again, I'd say Simon is not living up to his reputation for reading what the public wants. Honey G is just the most blatant example.
Very good post. I feel that Simon Cowell and those around him have lost touch with the current music industry and are stuck in a bygone age. His brand of safe, generic pop just doesn't cut it in these days when younger people don't understand the idea of paying for music.

He's become like Pete Waterman did during PSTR where he had talented boys who he wasted by being stuck in the past and refusing to move with the times.

I have no idea why he thought the public would buy Honey G's music. To sign her and promote her seems to prove that he's lost his touch as anyone with ears could have told him her 'music' would flop
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Old 29-12-2016, 08:22
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Isn't it time to replace "DROPPED" in the thread title to "FLOPPED" ?

93 on the 'official' iTunes chart and 107 on the 'live' update link i posted earlier as well.
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Old 29-12-2016, 09:34
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Very good post. I feel that Simon Cowell and those around him have lost touch with the current music industry and are stuck in a bygone age. His brand of safe, generic pop just doesn't cut it in these days when younger people don't understand the idea of paying for music.

He's become like Pete Waterman did during PSTR where he had talented boys who he wasted by being stuck in the past and refusing to move with the times.

I have no idea why he thought the public would buy Honey G's music. To sign her and promote her seems to prove that he's lost his touch as anyone with ears could have told him her 'music' would flop
I would say that the chart is topped by safe, generic pop part most of the time and the winner of XF this year fits right in with that. Cowell isn't that far off. And, if anything, the patterns of streaming support this idea. The chart is comparatively sterile in relation to new music or style because of streaming.

The Honey G. thing surprises me because normally Simon Cowell is appreciate of Black music culture but this seems at odds with that.
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Old 29-12-2016, 10:18
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Your defensiveness of a remote television personality/ music industry 'mogul' is a bit weird.
So is your desire to belittle his success at every turn...
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Old 29-12-2016, 10:51
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May be just he want to portray the current state of music industry! Not saying his label is something that produces real music, but there must surely a reason.

I have no idea why he thought the public would buy Honey G's music. To sign her and promote her seems to prove that he's lost his touch as anyone with ears could have told him her 'music' would flop
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Old 29-12-2016, 16:11
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Remember Simon brought us mr blobby and zig and zag and the power rangers song so honey g fits in with all those puppets
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Old 29-12-2016, 16:35
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Dear lord! If they get any more production on that she will disappear. On second thoughts, more production please!
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Old 30-12-2016, 08:30
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Well, with the official chart out today, she's officially dropped out of the iTunes top 100 ..

http://www.apple.com/uk/itunes/charts/songs/

I know there's the "Big Top 40" that the commercial stations use, but that's also based on sales and radio play, so there's little chance of that happening either,
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Old 30-12-2016, 10:58
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The Honey G Show looking likely to be cancelled.
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Old 30-12-2016, 16:02
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The Honey G Show looking likely to be cancelled.
Was there ever any doubt?
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Old 30-12-2016, 17:24
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Does anyone know the official chart position?
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Old 30-12-2016, 17:52
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Does anyone know the official chart position?
Yep, not even made the top 100 - official chart was released less than 10 minutes ago and she's not on it.

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart/
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Old 30-12-2016, 18:12
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Does anyone know the official chart position?
According to kworb.net she is 144 n the Itunes chart!

http://kworb.net/charts/itunes/uk.html
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