1. My Chip Pans on fire will be at number one through January.

2. Assassination attempt on Trump. Farage becomes his biggliest bestest advisor. Putin and those two get caught in sex scandal with wrestling call girls.

3. Sturgeon - Repeats 2016

4. Hilary Benn becomes leader of the Labour party

5. Boris drops huge ollock and gets the sack, considers joining UKIP

6. Sterling v Euro goes up and down like a brides nightie.

Well there have been ten attempted assassinations of US Presidents and four successful assassinations and Trump is extremely controversial so it might be worth a bet.

If only!

Wasn't there one on the campaign trail, or am I getting things mixed up in my mind?

I have often been asked and even told not to use Moslem. Fact is when I was young it was the standard spelling and no one got uppity about it. Old habits die hard though there will be those on here who will take great pleasure in placing a 1950's sterotype on me, not knowing I knew the word in the forties.

It's difficult to transliterate exactly. I had no idea until this minute that "Moslem" was no longer acceptable.

Going by the examples in the Oxford English Dictionary Moslem was a common spelling in the 18th and 19th century, Muslim appears to have been the common spelling since 1905.

No Moslem is actually a derogatory term for Muslim . The op knew what they were doing I was just calling him / her out on it

It is acceptable to open minded people. Alas there are too many these days who want to tell people what to think and what they can say and more fool anyone who gives into them

Insert Niemoller's verse here, or

http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/524

Is it Muslim or Moslem?

When Baby Boomers were children it was Moslem. The American Heritage Dictionary (1992) noted,"Moslem is the form predominantly preferred in journalism and popular usage. Muslim is preferred by scholars and by English-speaking adherents of Islam." No more. Now, almost everybody uses Muslim.

According to the Center for Nonproliferation Studies,"Moslem and Muslim are basically two different spellings for the same word." But the seemingly arbitrary choice of spellings is a sensitive subject for many followers of Islam. Whereas for most English speakers, the two words are synonymous in meaning, the Arabic roots of the two words are very different. A Muslim in Arabic means"one who gives himself to God," and is by definition, someone who adheres to Islam. By contrast, a Moslem in Arabic means"one who is evil and unjust" when the word is pronounced, as it is in English, Mozlem with a z.

For others, this spelling differentiation is merely a linguistic matter, with the two spellings a result of variation in transliteration methods. Both Moslem and Muslim are used as nouns. But some writers use Moslem when the word is employed as an adjective.

Journalists switched to Muslim from Moslem in recent years under pressure from Islamic groups. But the use of the word Moslem has not entirely ceased. Established institutions which used the older form of the name have been reluctant to change. The American Moslem Foundation is still the American Moslem Foundation (much as the NAACP is still the NAACP--the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People). The journal The Moslem World--published by the Hartford Seminary in Connecticut--is still The Moslem World.

The UK is not America.
Going by the examples in the Oxford English Dictionary Moslem was the common spelling in the 18th and 19th century, Muslim the common spelling since 1905.

And how is it acceptable to open minded people to use Moslem when according to your post in Arabic it means"one who is evil and unjust" when the word is pronounced, as it is in English, Mozlem with a z. And your link compares it to using the word colored which today is a pejorative in America.

So you like people to think for you and tell you what to say, good for you.

Some of us can think for ourselves perhaps you could try it some day because once you go down this road of letting tell you what is and is not acceptable where do you stop?

There are no end of people who will take offence at what others say just to get a reaction, sadly that is the world we live in.

I use words to try to communicate so do not use words that I know people find pejorative unless I am trying to offend. What other people understand words to mean is important when trying to communicate with other people.

Harping on about no end of people who will take offence at what others say just to get a reaction. After using words you know others find pejorative is just deliberately seeking to cause a reaction and then attacking those who reacted. Claiming you are just thinking for yourself and not being told what to do does not change the reason for choosing to use the word. The word choice is to be offensive to provoke because you know that is the effect of using the word.

As you well know my point is that I do not find the word offensive, if others do that is their problem. Still as I have had enough of you trying to tell me what to think I will now leave you to play with yourself.

In accordance with the time of year, Merry Christmas

If you are trying to communicate with people its a problem for you unless your intention is to be offensive. As you know others find the word pejorative and choose to use it you are using it as a pejorative as you know it will cause offence.

Oh dear you could not even take seasons greetings with good grace.

It is acceptable, I use it for the reasons I've already explained.


You rely too much on works of reference rather than real life experience. Moslem was the only spelling I ever knew as a kid in the 40s. There weren't many people around like you to put me right and you're not about to do it now.

So why aren't mosques called musques?

England will not win the World Cup.

But I don't know who Chris Jericho is.

Oh well, no worries. i'll get a clue one day in 2017

Marie Le Pen becomes French President and more shock Political results as well

Article 50 will be triggered, Scotland try to stay in the EU while being part of the uk but will fail

First "experts", now books. What next?
"You rely too much on the alphabet to communicate. Grunting is the way forward."?

I think there'll be a scandal that forces his resignation.

I think a new party will form from the right of the Labour party and SDP as the Brexit fallout hits hard.

Me too.

How many Muslims in person have you called Moslem which in Arabic means"one who is evil and unjust" when the word is pronounced, as it is in English, Mozlem with a z. That you are confident its acceptable and not commonly regarded as a prerogative.

Out of interest are there any other words you use from the past that you regard as acceptable despite other people telling you online or elsewhere that they are now regarded as pejorative or derogatory?

I only ever used/heard the word Moslem whilst growing up - it is the first I've heard of it today that it is deemed unacceptable.