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Settlements in the westbank
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-38421026 The bill was passed by 14 to 0 with oddly the USA abstaining from the vote who as the bbc put it "has traditionally sheltered Israel from condemnatory resolutions." |
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Did Russia vote against Israel?
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Did Russia vote against Israel?
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The first motion was proposed by Egypt but Trump had a word with Obama and it was withdrawn. So then Malaysia proposed the motion and that is what was voted on. No explanation for why america sat on their hands other than Obama wanting to screw things up for an incoming Trump. It kind of gives the lie to Obama's claim that he would do all he could to effect a smooth transition
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yes the entire security council bar the USA did
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So it did not pass then.
![]() the US abstained rather than use their veto |
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in reality it means very little.
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This was a final payback by Obama against Netanyahu and the Republicans for them allowing Netanyahu to speak in Congress against Obama's Iran deal I feel.
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Maybe read what i typed.
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() In any case Israel do not regard them as illegal settlements |
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It really doesn't matter.
There will be no Middle East in 50 years' time, once they run out of oil and turn on each other with the nukes. What we see at the moment is just playing games before the main event. |
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This was a final payback by Obama against Netanyahu and the Republicans for them allowing Netanyahu to speak in Congress against Obama's Iran deal I feel.
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You expect me to read every line of every post including the blue bits
![]() ![]() ![]() In any case Israel do not regard them as illegal settlements |
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No they don't, but they are pretty universally regarded as being illegal by almost everyone else.
They only took possession of the West Bank after an act of self defence There will need to some compromise on both sides. |
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Possession is nine tenths of the law
They only took possession of the West Bank after an act of self defence There will need to some compromise on both sides. Now, there are plenty of other reasons why a peace deal is becoming almost impossible to envisage, many of which can be blamed on the Palestinians, but the settlements are a major stumbling block. |
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Possession is nine tenths of the law
They only took possession of the West Bank after an act of self defence There will need to some compromise on both sides. |
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Except international law post WW2 clearly and specifically states you can't claim new land via invasion or conquest.
They should give the land back to its rightful owners For Jesus sake. |
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All the lefties and righties who think the sun shines out of Putin's arse are agreeing with this vote?
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If a two-state solution can't be found then a one-state solution could ultimately lead to the end of Israel as a Jewish state.
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Now, there are plenty of other reasons why a peace deal is becoming almost impossible to envisage, many of which can be blamed on the Palestinians, but the settlements are a major stumbling block.
It's not just the settlements themselves, but general appropriation of land, water rights and the creation of 'security buffers' & fences. Especially when they're combined with Jewish-only roads. The fragmentation of the occupied territories makes it harder to define any workable Palestine.. which is the point behind the settlement expansion.
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All the lefties and righties who think the sun shines out of Putin's arse are agreeing with this vote?
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A largely symbolic move that will do little to hault Israel's crimes. If anything I expect Israel to throw their toys out of the pram in response, and increase their illegal expansion.
Shame Obama/The US seemingly only abstained to spite Trump instead of doing something that would actually have an impact. There will never be a two state solution though because neither sides puppet masters want one. |
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Except international law post WW2 clearly and specifically states you can't claim new land via invasion or conquest.
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Tell that to what was North Vietnam
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A largely symbolic move that will do little to hault Israel's crimes. If anything I expect Israel to throw their toys out of the pram in response, and increase their illegal expansion.
Shame Obama/The US seemingly only abstained to spite Trump instead of doing something that would actually have an impact. There will never be a two state solution though because neither sides puppet masters want one. In the same way that speaking out against Robert Mugabe means you hate all black people. |
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A one-state solution arguably makes more sense, but will probably need a generation or two to overcome the divisions.
It's not just the settlements themselves, but general appropriation of land, water rights and the creation of 'security buffers' & fences. Especially when they're combined with Jewish-only roads. The fragmentation of the occupied territories makes it harder to define any workable Palestine.. which is the point behind the settlement expansion. |
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