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The Dreaded Menace On Our Roads & Pavements
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Princessxxxx
23-12-2016
The Dreaded Menace On The Roads & Pavements
Yes, you guessed it, it's the cyclists.
As the days got shorter and darker, the problem becomes greater and even more dangerous.

Every day I see:

1: No lights on the push bikes.

2: Just a front light.

3: Jumping red lights.

4: Riding on pavements.

5: No stopping at pedestrian crossings.

6: Wearing helmet cameras and being selective with what they share.

7: Trying to use a smart phone mobile phone when on their bike.

8: Not able to ride coherently.

9: Riding 2 abreast.

10: Weaving in and out of traffic in a careless manner.

11: The bike, and/or the rider overloaded with items.

12: Very arrogant/abusive, limited vocabulary.
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I strongly advocate that these all push bike riders are:

1: Insured

2: Road tax must be introduced forthwith.

3: Made to display number plates so they can be traced when jumping red lights, riding on pavements, not stopping at pedestrian crossings, damaging other vehicles.


I am of the very strong judgment that if these riders were taxed, insured, number plated, their breaking of the law would dramatically reduce overnight and the government/taxpayers, road users would benefit from the income re road tax and fines.

Importantly, my recommendations would also make safer for the majority of riders as they would be more inclined, on the whole, to abide by the highways codes.

FYI: My dad has been writing to his MP to support a commons debate regarding this matter but has not got very far with it.

If you have seen what I see on a daily basis about riders breaking the law, share it with us here, please. Hopefully, this may help open the eyes of some of these riders and benefit us as well as the riders.
tealady
23-12-2016
No such thing as road tax.

Not being able to ride coherently - what does that even mean?

Limited vocabulary - OK.

The bike overloaded with items - did you weigh them?

What are your views on other road users?
Please advise on the number of uninsured drivers and the annual cost of accidents caused by them and the surcharge on insured drivers to cover these losses.
TobiasBudzynski
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by tealady:
“No such thing as road tax.

Not being able to ride coherently - what does that even mean?

Limited vocabulary - OK.



What are your views on other road users?”

I knew someone at college who once said he reckons he should have the right to run people over as he is paying 'car tax' and chances are not them.
razorback Tony
23-12-2016
I think there'll be tears before bedtime with this thread.
Princessxxxx
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by TobiasBudzynski:
“I knew someone at college who once said he reckons he should have the right to run people over as he is paying 'car tax' and chances are not them. ”

Sorry, can you please rephrase that? Thanks
tealady
23-12-2016
Can you advise on the cost of accidents caused by uninsured cyclists and the capital cost of setting up a scheme of registration and the revenue costs of maintaining the scheme.

Please advise on the pay back time in years of the capital costs.
Princessxxxx
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by tealady:
“1No such thing as road tax.

2Not being able to ride coherently - what does that even mean?

Limited vocabulary - OK.

3The bike overloaded with items - did you weigh them?

What are your views on other road users?
Please advise on the number of uninsured drivers and the annual cost of accidents caused by them and the surcharge on insured drivers to cover these losses.”

1 - there is road tax if the gov changed the law.

2: not riding withing the highway code of good practice and putting others at risk.

3: I did not but you can tell when they are not in control of their bike.
dosanjh1
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by Princessxxxx:
“The Dreaded Menace On The Roads & Pavements
Yes, you guessed it, it's the cyclists.
As the days got shorter and darker, the problem becomes greater and even more dangerous.

Every day I see:

1: No lights on the push bikes.

2: Just a front light.

3: Jumping red lights.

4: Riding on pavements.

5: No stopping at pedestrian crossings.

6: Wearing helmet cameras and being selective with what they share.

7: Trying to use a smart phone mobile phone when on their bike.

8: Not able to ride coherently.

9: Riding 2 abreast.

10: Weaving in and out of traffic in a careless manner.

11: The bike, and/or the rider overloaded with items.

12: Very arrogant/abusive, limited vocabulary.
=================
=========================
==================================
=======================================


I strongly advocate that these all push bike riders are:

1: Insured

2: Road taxed

3: Display number plates so they can be traced when jumping red lights, riding on pavements, not stopping at pedestrian crossings, damaging other vehicles.


I am of the very strong judgment that if these riders were taxed, insured, number plated, their breaking of the law would dramatically reduce overnight and the government/taxpayers, road users would benefit from the income re road tax and fines.

Importantly, my recommendations would also make safer for the majority of riders as they would be more inclined, on the whole, to abide by the highways codes.

FYI: My dad has been writing to his MP to support a commons debate regarding this matter but has not got very far with it.

If you have seen what I see on a daily basis about riders breaking the law, share it with us here, please. Hopefully, this may help open the eyes of some of these riders and benefit us as well as the riders.
”

We don't want to put barriers up to cycling - we need to encourage more of it. It's a healthy activity and is clean of toxic fumes.

I agree with you're points though about cycling on pavements and going through red lights and crossings and I also think those accessories that allow transport of very young children i.e. the trailers and child bike seats should be banned from busy roads.
tealady
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by Princessxxxx:
“1 - there is road tax if the gov changed the law.

2: not riding withing the highway code of good practice and putting others at risk.

3: I did not but you can tell when they are not in control of their bike.”

I'm glad you agree road tax does not exist.

I should have thought it was difficult to put others at risk when on a cycle. At least in comparison with motorised vehicles.
el_bardos
23-12-2016
There is new and interesting ground to be covered in this thread, I look forward to exciting new insights.
stoatie
23-12-2016
Damn, I just bet myself a gin and tonic it'd be smokers.

Ah well. Time to pay up, I guess. Thanks!
stoatie
23-12-2016
...wait, how does "limited vocabulary" constitute a public safety hazard?
Princessxxxx
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by dosanjh1:
“We don't want to put barriers up to cycling - we need to encourage more of it. It's a healthy activity and is clean of toxic fumes.

I agree with you're points though about cycling on pavements and going through red lights and crossings and I also think those accessories that allow transport of very young children i.e. the trailers and child bike seats should be banned from busy roads.”

Thank you.

I live in London/Blackheath in a nice-sih part of it and often see these "child bike seats" and those that are pulled alone, both very dangerous and I agree with your stance.
Princessxxxx
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by stoatie:
“...wait, how does "limited vocabulary" constitute a public safety hazard?”

Usually means they are illiterate/foul mouthed and unable to read road markings/signs.
planets
23-12-2016
*drives into thread smoking is disappointed by content knocks over cyclist on the way out flicks fag butt out the window*
Princessxxxx
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by el_bardos:
“There is new and interesting ground to be covered in this thread, I look forward to exciting new insights.”

Thank you for your support
dee123
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by razorback Tony:
“I think there'll be tears before bedtime with this thread.”

There always is. The only thing worse is a "cat pooping in my garden" thread
tealady
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by Princessxxxx:
“Usually means they are illiterate/foul mouthed and unable to read road markings/signs.”

That's funny because I thought they were mainly white, male and middle class.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...d-middle-class
d'@ve
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by el_bardos:
“There is new and interesting ground to be covered in this thread, I look forward to exciting new insights.”

New member, controversial thread containing a scattering of concocted points, we've seen it all before. This one happens to be about cyclists, always good for some fun and games with hungry members who bite.
tealady
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by Princessxxxx:
“Usually means they are illiterate/foul mouthed and unable to read road markings/signs.”

What is your strategy for dealing with these appalling levels of illiteracy?
stoatie
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by Princessxxxx:
“Usually means they are illiterate/foul mouthed and unable to read road markings/signs.”

...wait, how does "limited vocabulary" equate to "foul-mouthed"? I suspect William Burroughs and James Joyce, to name but two, would like a word. And surely the entire point of pictorial signage is to bypass literacy and present information in an easy-to-understand visual form?
stoatie
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by d'@ve:
“New member, controversial thread containing a scattering of concocted points, we've seen it all before. This one happens to be about cyclists, always good for some fun and games for hungry members who bite.”

She's done smokers already. I reckon it'll be people who buy discounted shit in supermarkets next. Or Muslims.
RobinOfLoxley
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by Princessxxxx:
“The Dreaded Menace On The Roads & Pavements
Yes, you guessed it, it's the cyclists.
As the days got shorter and darker, the problem becomes greater and even more dangerous.

Every day I see:

1: No lights on the push bikes.

2: Just a front light.

3: Jumping red lights.

4: Riding on pavements.

5: No stopping at pedestrian crossings.

6: Wearing helmet cameras and being selective with what they share.

7: Trying to use a smart phone mobile phone when on their bike.

8: Not able to ride coherently.

9: Riding 2 abreast.

10: Weaving in and out of traffic in a careless manner.

11: The bike, and/or the rider overloaded with items.

12: Very arrogant/abusive, limited vocabulary.
=================
=========================
==================================
=======================================


I strongly advocate that these all push bike riders are:

1: Insured

2: Road tax must be introduced forthwith.

3: Made to display number plates so they can be traced when jumping red lights, riding on pavements, not stopping at pedestrian crossings, damaging other vehicles.


I am of the very strong judgment that if these riders were taxed, insured, number plated, their breaking of the law would dramatically reduce overnight and the government/taxpayers, road users would benefit from the income re road tax and fines.

Importantly, my recommendations would also make safer for the majority of riders as they would be more inclined, on the whole, to abide by the highways codes.

FYI: My dad has been writing to his MP to support a commons debate regarding this matter but has not got very far with it.

If you have seen what I see on a daily basis about riders breaking the law, share it with us here, please. Hopefully, this may help open the eyes of some of these riders and benefit us as well as the riders.
”

🤡🤡🤡
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planets
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by RobinOfLoxley:
“🤡🤡🤡
.”

el_bardos
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by d'@ve:
“New member, controversial thread containing a scattering of concocted points, we've seen it all before. This one happens to be about cyclists, always good for some fun and games with hungry members who bite.”

Yeah, pretty much what I was implying. The fact she's willfully ignored the obvious sarcasm with the "thanks for your support" comment rather confirms we have a new Trolly McTrollyson on our hands.

Anyone up for a sweepstake on the next fun topic of 'interest' from this poster?
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