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Does anyone else get put off of watching movies in huge franchise series?
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max_garfield
24-12-2016
What I mean is, I want to watch the Star Wars movies (all the ones released thus far) and I keep meaning to get around to it, but something kind of puts me off, and I think it's because a) there's so many and b) because of it's x amount of years market, it feels a bit weird to get into!? I can't explain it.

I am the same with Harry Potter, I have only seen the first movie and just clips when it's been on TV, it doesn't seem to interest me that much really. Same scenario with The Hunger Games (though I never liked the first one from what I recall of it).
Zeropoint1
24-12-2016
As far as Star Wars is concerned start on Episode IV and watch them from there. If you have time watch Rogue One first but it's not required at all.

Skip the prequals as they're childish, pathetic and utterly embarrassing. How George Lucas got away with that drivel I'll never know!

I watched Episode I The Phantom Menace in the cinema and you could hear people muttering about how bad it was, some even walked out.
Charnham
24-12-2016
I LOVED Civil War, and it paid off on nearly all the movies that came before it,and I loved it for that, but some reviewers did make a fair point, the movie is not going to work so well for those who have not seen previous movies.

As for the other franchises, Star Wars and Harry Potter, for me to start them now would just feel like jumping on the band wagon, way way way too late.
Zeropoint1
24-12-2016
Oh, I'm awful for not wanting to start long running TV shows and must be the only person I know who hasn't seen Game of Thrones or The Walking Dead.

I will eventually get around to watching them but at this late stage I'll wait until they've finished and the hype has died down and buy the boxsets cheaply.
Zeropoint1
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“I LOVED Civil War, and it paid off on nearly all the movies that came before it,and I loved it for that, but some reviewers did make a fair point, the movie is not going to work so well for those who have not seen previous movies.

As for the other franchises, Star Wars and Harry Potter, for me to start them now would just feel like jumping on the band wagon, way way way too late.”

I sort of understand what you mean about Star Wars and Harry Potter, but the original trilogy are now 33 - 39 years old and there must be many who's parents weren't even born when they were released (I'm old!)

The Harry Potter books and movies do get better and far more adult as they go on and the good thing is if you've avoided the spoilers by now it's probably OK.
tiacat
24-12-2016
I just find the more modern the film, the less it grabs me, its too unreal.

Im watching the Vikings at the moment with Kirk Douglas, its unbeatable and not a jot of CGI in it.
zx50
24-12-2016
I think the Harry Potter and Star Wars films are great! I'm glad that J.K Rowling wrote the Harry Potter books. I'll eventually be getting Rogue One: A Star Wars Story providing there's enough good reviews for it. I always watch a series of films from the start and never watch from halfway, or even a quarter of the way. I think it best to watch the whole story or not at all.
eggchen
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by zx50:
“I'll eventually be getting Rogue One: A Star Wars Story providing there's enough good reviews for it.”

There are already plenty of reviews for it on rottentomatoes, and it has an 85% fresh rating based on 311 reviews.
ianradioian
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by Zeropoint1:
“Oh, I'm awful for not wanting to start long running TV shows and must be the only person I know who hasn't seen Game of Thrones or The Walking Dead.

I will eventually get around to watching them but at this late stage I'll wait until they've finished and the hype has died down and buy the boxsets cheaply.”

I havent either, though I bought the boxset of game of thrones last year.
Ive got 5 others to work through yet, and I keep coming back to them
Charnham
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by eggchen:
“There are already plenty of reviews for it on rottentomatoes, and it has an 85% fresh rating based on 311 reviews.”

RT does not count for DCEU movies
pork.pie
24-12-2016
We've just completed the X Files boxset (taken a little over a month)... well apart from the new ones. We'll get to them after Christmas. I'd never watch a long series week by week on t'telly, but binge watching is fun. Sorry, moved over to telly because of other comments. Those other comments are naughty. Tell those naughty comments off. It wasn't me what did it. I cannot tell a lie.

Edit: Actually... a little under a month
RebelScum
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by tiacat:
“Im watching the Vikings at the moment with Kirk Douglas, its unbeatable and not a jot of CGI in it.”

The current Vikings tv show beats it.
sodavlac
24-12-2016
I'm not so bad, but Star Wars is one I've never been able to get into.

The first film (1977) was out before I was born and the second and third when I was 1 and 4 years old respectively. I missed all the hype for those, and while some kids I knew were into it and had Star Wars toys when I was young I didn't really care about it at all. Still don't think I've seen any of those 3 all the way through, but just by being alive think I know the gist of them and know who many of the characters are etc.

Got dragged to the cinema to watch Attack of the Clones in the early 2000s. Can't really remember anything about it other than having a memory of thinking it wasn't very good. Never saw the other two that came out either side of that.

Now I'm looking at the wikipedia page for the franchise - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars and am confused over what is a sequel trilogy and an anthology and why they're all coming out in between each other. Doubt I'll ever bother with it.
Woodbine
24-12-2016
I love films so I don't limit my options, doesn't matter if it's low or big budget, indie or Hollywood, sequel or not, I will happily watch it.
solarflare
24-12-2016
The worst offenders are the superhero films.

The thing is they're not that bad in isolation, they're just so collectively dull. If you fling enough budget and special effects at them they generally give a reasonable blockbuster film, but they're just so soulless. You just feel like you're watching something that big data analytics says will appeal to the most people possible and therefore make the most money possible.

And you have to constantly up the ante on them because fundamentally the only interesting part of the story is when they actually discover their powers. After that it's just a case of chuck increasingly more enemies at them and hope that does the trick, or what they do now of having increasingly more superheroes ganging together (Avengers/Justic League), or reboot and start from scratch AGAIN (how many times have they rebooted Batman and Spiderman, for god's sake?).

Having said that, I'm increasingly frustrated by needless sequels so that a generic film can be "given" a big name because Hollywood is so afraid of a flop. Did we really need Jurassic World or Independence Day:Resurgence? Those films had their day, they didn't need to be dusted off years later and sequelled (again in the latter case).
David_Flett1
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“RT does not count for DCEU movies ”

I can work out that RT stands for Rotten Tomatoes but explain DCEU movies
zx50
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by eggchen:
“There are already plenty of reviews for it on rottentomatoes, and it has an 85% fresh rating based on 311 reviews.”

90% of the audience are supposed to have liked it as well so that looks promising.
Fish_and_Chips
24-12-2016
How much more can they water down Star Wars....almost magical seeing the original 3 in the cinema where I think they're best viewed, but reboots and prequels just leave me cold....😕
Ber
24-12-2016
I've got nothing against the superhero films and have seen some of them, but tbh the constant sequels, reboots, alt universes and spin-offs confuse the heck out of me!
Fairyprincess0
24-12-2016
Iam a huge comicbook fan. But after wonder woman and JLA, i cant think of another superhero who really needs a movie.

All my favourite superheros are really obscure. Even i cant see a need for an adam strange, deaths head, or knights of pendragon film.....
jjwales
24-12-2016
I've only seen one Star Wars and I think two Harry Potters. No particular desire to watch any more. Not really keen on sequels/prequels etc.
Fairyprincess0
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by jjwales:
“I've only seen one Star Wars and I think two Harry Potters. No particular desire to watch any more. Not really keen on sequels/prequels etc.”

The only harry potter film ive ever seen was one my ex-girlfriend made me watch. That, and ever crappy zombie film, ever....
Charnham
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by David_Flett1:
“I can work out that RT stands for Rotten Tomatoes but explain DCEU movies”

DCEU, Decetive Comics Entertainment Universe, so Man of Steel, Batman vs Superman, Suicide Squad, and movies associated with Justice League characters


Originally Posted by Ber:
“I've got nothing against the superhero films and have seen some of them, but tbh the constant sequels, reboots, alt universes and spin-offs confuse the heck out of me!”

not that many movies set in alt universe of another movie, and few spin-offs, sure the ever expand MCU can seem daunting to newbies but I love it for exactly that reason, as mentioned above the pay off in Civil War is amazing to long term fans.

Originally Posted by solarflare:
“The worst offenders are the superhero films.

The thing is they're not that bad in isolation, they're just so collectively dull. If you fling enough budget and special effects at them they generally give a reasonable blockbuster film, but they're just so soulless. You just feel like you're watching something that big data analytics says will appeal to the most people possible and therefore make the most money possible.

And you have to constantly up the ante on them because fundamentally the only interesting part of the story is when they actually discover their powers. After that it's just a case of chuck increasingly more enemies at them and hope that does the trick, or what they do now of having increasingly more superheroes ganging together (Avengers/Justic League), or reboot and start from scratch AGAIN (how many times have they rebooted Batman and Spiderman, for god's sake?).

Having said that, I'm increasingly frustrated by needless sequels so that a generic film can be "given" a big name because Hollywood is so afraid of a flop. Did we really need Jurassic World or Independence Day:Resurgence? Those films had their day, they didn't need to be dusted off years later and sequelled (again in the latter case).”

This Spiderman reboot is within the MCU, so its not just ANOTHER reboot, same could also be said for Batman. The truth is this, the comics reboot the charaters just as much, if not more, so for comic book movies to reboot characters is logical.

Jurassic World has some nice ideas, and the idea of an open park is a good one, truth is I liked the movie, there are other types of stories you can tell in that universe however, and that is something that needs to be done in any sequels.

As for Independence Day:Resurgence it is over all a dreadful movie, but the world presented, is amazing.
Fairyprincess0
24-12-2016
Superhero films have ruined cinema, though.

This is said as a comic book fan. They created a formula that has really hurt cinema..
Barracute
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“DCEU, Decetive Comics Entertainment Universe, so Man of Steel, Batman vs Superman, Suicide Squad, and movies associated with Justice League characters
”

Detective Comics Entertainment (or expanded as some have it) Universe does not include Rogue One/Star Wars so it still does not make sense?
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