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I will never unite to Brexit!
I was a remainer, but c'mon, this is happening, and I've faced it, we need to move on. Some of the rhetoric I've read from hard core remainers is akin to terrorist talk. How far would you go to never unite with Brexit? |
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So, in 20 years time you'll still be campaigning to get us back into the EU, just complaining on forums or worse?
I was a remainer, but c'mon, this is happening, and I've faced it, we need to move on. For now we can oppose by: - supporting pro EU politicians Anna Soubry for the Conservatives David Lammy / Chukka Ummunna the Lib Dems the Greens - joining pro EU unions (eg the GMB has offices in Brussels and is strongly pro EU) - make every single vote (municipal, council, etc) dependent on the attitude of the candidate to the EU on forums - reminding everyone that we are owed 350'000'000 a week on the NHS and asking where the money is - pointing out the ineffable incompetence of the May government and her three feeble musketeers - their infighting helps us Remainers muchly I must say - highlighting the dubious actions of Farage - also a great help to us Remainers when the chief Leaver reputedly has acquired a German passport since the vote or plans to emigrate to the US on a day to day basis: - boycotting the DM/ Murdoch press / Wetherspoons / Dyson products / any British product associated with Leave - holidaying in placesin the UK only if they have voted to Remain - not going to parts of the country that have voted Leave. - giving charity money to local projects supporting Remain areas only and of course most important of all: - asking for a referendum on the exit terms - so we don't leave at all in the first place. Recent surveys have shown that Leave voters would not tolerate being even 100 pounds worse off. There is no mandate for poverty / hard Brexit and there never will be. Heading towards a hard Brexit is the best chance we have of not exiting at all. . |
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In 20 years time we will have been long back in the EU.
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Have to disagree there. If we ever want back in it'll be a lot longer than 20 years and we'll be treated like crap if we do.
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In 20 years time we will have been long back in the EU. The geriatric pensioners that took us out this time will be long gone.
For now we can oppose by: - supporting pro EU politicians Anna Soubry for the Conservatives David Lammy / Chukka Ummunna the Lib Dems the Greens - joining pro EU unions (eg the GMB has offices in Brussels and is strongly pro EU) - make every single vote (municipal, council, etc) dependent on the attitude of the candidate to the EU on forums - reminding everyone that we are owed 350'000'000 a week on the NHS and asking where the money is - pointing out the ineffable incompetence of the May government and her three feeble musketeers - their infighting helps us Remainers muchly I must say - highlighting the dubious actions of Farage - also a great help to us Remainers when the chief Leaver reputedly has acquired a German passport since the vote or plans to emigrate to the US on a day to day basis: - boycotting the DM/ Murdoch press / Wetherspoons / Dyson products / any British product associated with Leave - holidaying in placesin the UK only if they have voted to Remain - not going to parts of the country that have voted Leave. - giving charity money to local projects supporting Remain areas only and of course most important of all: - asking for a referendum on the exit terms - so we don't leave at all in the first place. Recent surveys have shown that Leave voters would not tolerate being even 100 pounds worse off. There is no mandate for poverty / hard Brexit and there never will be. Heading towards a hard Brexit is the best chance we have of not exiting at all. . |
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In 20 years time we will have been long back in the EU. The geriatric pensioners that took us out this time will be long gone.
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So, in 20 years time you'll still be campaigning to get us back into the EU, just complaining on forums or worse?
I was a remainer, but c'mon, this is happening, and I've faced it, we need to move on. Some of the rhetoric I've read from hard core remainers is akin to terrorist talk. How far would you go to never unite with Brexit?
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Don't forget, the people who are now in their 60s and 70s were the young people of 1975. The assumption that the young people of today will hold the same opinion when they are older is a fallacy. That logic was used to suggest that the Conservative Party would wither away, but they appear to be hanging on better than most parties I could mention.
But yes that is how it works and one they will be 'old'. |
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Somebody help me, please. I'm trying to decide which side of politics the Remnants come from. At the moment, I'm inclined to say, "Sorry kids but you're not going to get your socialist EUtopia.
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Somebody help me, please. I'm trying to decide which side of politics the Remnants come from. At the moment, I'm inclined to say, "Sorry kids but you're not going to get your socialist EUtopia.
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And it's that level of maturity that will guarentee there will never be any unity
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Quite right, too many Remnants aren't even trying.
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Quite right, too many Remnants aren't even trying.
While you are at it, try to avoid infantile name-calling. |
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I'm certainly not going to unite and move forward with the isolationists, little Englanders, racists, xenophobic, prejudiced, short-sighted, uninformed ... minority of the population who voted Leave.
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.... The assumption that the young people of today will hold the same opinion when they are older is a fallacy. .....
I haven't changed my views over the last half century and know many, many others who haven't either, on whichever side they fall. |
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Somebody help me, please. I'm trying to decide which side of politics the Remnants come from. At the moment, I'm inclined to say, "Sorry kids but you're not going to get your socialist EUtopia.
ps: we haven't left yet, and are unlikely to leave in the next 2 years - 5 years if there is a 'transitional arrangement' ( ie we still don't leave). Plenty of time for a referendum on the exit terms to be agreed + lots of Leave voters won't still be around then. |
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What a load of old twaddle.
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the Leave voter at the height of his intellectual powers.
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Convince me why I should 'try' to unite with those who are pursuing an ideology with which I profoundly disagree.
While you are at it, try to avoid infantile name-calling.
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the Leave voter at the height of his intellectual powers.
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Convince me why I should 'try' to unite with those who are pursuing an ideology with which I profoundly disagree.
While you are at it, try to avoid infantile name-calling. |
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It will be back to "Remnant", "Remoaner", "You lost get over it" as normal... and they seriously want unity? It's like intentionally trolling the electorate.
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yes, seriously lol :
These delusional Brexiters will stay delusional to the end it seems. |
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the Leave voter at the height of his intellectual powers.
But your post is still a load of old twaddle. |
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May is a remainer don't forget.
Since then she has not shown any lack of enthusiasm for leaving, she didn't need to appeal the High Court's decision on brexit but did and all the way to the Supreme Court at that, she has secured the vote of MPs in favour of the timetable and has consistently said that Article 50 will be triggered by end of March She has not displayed any signs of being a secret, or none secret remainer that I can see, I suspect she has always leaned towards leave |
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