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I don't think she is actually, she displayed a very lukewarm response to the idea of remain during the campaigning before the referendum, and this was noted widely at the time, she practically disappeared at one point and then when Cameron resigned she then mounted a very robust challenge to the other contenders for PM knowing she was going to be leading the government during our leaving the EU.
Since then she has not shown any lack of enthusiasm for leaving, she didn't need to appeal the High Court's decision on brexit but did and all the way to the Supreme Court at that, she has secured the vote of MPs in favour of the timetable and has consistently said that Article 50 will be triggered by end of March She has not displayed any signs of being a secret, or none secret remainer that I can see, I suspect she has always leaned towards leave |
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How can you possibly know that?
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I haven't changed my views over the last half century and know many, many others who haven't either, I can well believe that. on whichever side they fall.
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May is a remainer don't forget.
and somewhat surprised to discover they would be officially campaigning for Remain as they had been expecting to be Leave, like the adjoining constituencies of Windsor and Wokingham (Afriyie & Redwood) and Wycombe (Baker).Meanwhile, Theresa was 'busy' looking after the country while Cameron and Osborne did their thing, or visiting old ladies' parties in her constituency. I have always suspected that she's as much 'Remain' as Corbyn, just craftier. |
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She voted to remain so she's a remainer.
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It came out pre-referendum, when she was virtually invisible, that her constituency wallahs had been dismayed
and somewhat surprised to discover they would be officially campaigning for Remain as they had been expecting to be Leave, like the adjoining constituencies of Windsor and Wokingham (Afriyie & Redwood) and Wycombe (Baker).Meanwhile, Theresa was 'busy' looking after the country while Cameron and Osborne did their thing, or visiting old ladies' parties in her constituency. I have always suspected that she's as much 'Remain' as Corbyn, just craftier. I think her wiliness may be quite an asset when it comes to the nitty gritty of our negotiations out of the EU! |
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How do you know? has she actually said she voted to remain? I have not seen or heard that
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10...may/maidenhead And not to forget the Sachs speach https://www.theguardian.com/politics...s-about-brexit |
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the Leave voter at the height of his intellectual powers.
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Have to disagree there. If we ever want back in it'll be a lot longer than 20 years and we'll be treated like crap if we do.
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Only by not thinking about it can anyone believe those slogans have meaning.
As was discussed during the referendum campaign and ever since, leaving the EU can have many flavours, from Norway to North Korea. And "best deal for the UK" is also meaningless. Best deal for hard line Brexit fanatics, best for banks, best deal for manufacturers, best deal for workers are all different. Try engaging brain. |
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It's Mrs. May who is asking for unity and you should welcome it. Once the withdrawal is effected, you will no longer be a Remnant, you'll be one of us Brexiters.
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The Conservatives won the last GE. Do you think that automatically makes us all Tories too?
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No, they're just your masters you have to live with.
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I don't think she is actually, she displayed a very lukewarm response to the idea of remain during the campaigning before the referendum, and this was noted widely at the time, she practically disappeared at one point and then when Cameron resigned she then mounted a very robust challenge to the other contenders for PM knowing she was going to be leading the government during our leaving the EU.
Since then she has not shown any lack of enthusiasm for leaving, she didn't need to appeal the High Court's decision on brexit but did and all the way to the Supreme Court at that, she has secured the vote of MPs in favour of the timetable and has consistently said that Article 50 will be triggered by end of March She has not displayed any signs of being a secret, or none secret remainer that I can see, I suspect she has always leaned towards leave |
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May had a low profile during the referendum because as Home Secretary the Conservative's failure to reduce immigration to the tens of thousands would have been raised.
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well it was raised, time and time again, I don't think she kept a low profile for that reason
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In the words of the late President Kennedy Think not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.
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I'm certainly not going to unite and move forward with the isolationists, little Englanders, racists, xenophobic, prejudiced, short-sighted, uninformed and minority of the population who voted Leave. Those of us on the Remain side will be fighting an on-going war of attrition.
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Er, the actual FACT that a large number of people who voted to stay in Europe in 1975 voted to Leave in 2016.
In 1975 17.4m (67%) voted to remain and 8.5m (33%) voted NON. In 2016 16.1m (52%) voted to remain and 17.4 (52%) jumped off a cliff. Those registered to vote in 1975 totalled 40.5m compared to 46.5m in 2016. |
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May was probably seeking for the Tory party to unite, even amongst the Leave campaigners knifes have been drawn and sharpened.
Theresa May isn't the choice of the Tory membership, Gove is seen as an outcast and Johnson an opportunist. In 2017 will we hear Theresa May utter those famous historic words..."infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me." |
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Well said PM.
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What fact...and what do you mean by a large number?
In 1975 17.4m (67%) voted to remain and 8.5m (33%) voted NON. In 2016 16.1m (52%) voted to remain and 17.4 (52%) jumped off a cliff. Those registered to vote in 1975 totalled 40.5m compared to 46.5m in 2016. Not sure what the jumping of a cliff bit is all about. If you don't want to discuss this in a reasonable way, then there's no point in further discussion. |
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No, they're just your masters you have to live with.
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No, they're just your masters you have to live with.
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What fact...and what do you mean by a large number?
In 1975 17.4m (67%) voted to remain and 8.5m (33%) voted NON. In 2016 16.1m (52%) voted to remain and 17.4 (52%) jumped off a cliff. Those registered to vote in 1975 totalled 40.5m compared to 46.5m in 2016. |
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and somewhat surprised to discover they would be officially campaigning for Remain as they had been expecting to be Leave, like the adjoining constituencies of Windsor and Wokingham (Afriyie & Redwood) and Wycombe (Baker).

