Originally Posted by gwynne:
“The Beatles were,in my opinion,a very mediocre group that got lucky in meeting the genius who was Gerge Martin.
You have only got to watch their appaling 'live' performances (song and instrumental) and then compare them with their studio ones to see that without George Martin they were nothing special!
There were far,far better groups around at the time-The superb Hollies spring to mind.
They were as good live as in the studio and infinitely superior singers and musicians.
ABBA were and still are the best group the world has seen!
The sheer beauty and astounding vocals of Agnetha and Anni-Frid will never be bettered plus the sheer bloody genius of Bjorn and Benny.
The group set standards that will never be surpassed by any one else.
As I said-the Beatles got lucky but it was not talent that made them so famous!”
i was going to reply to this but .....
Originally Posted by d'@ve:
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Several people seem to have missed the point of the thread though, I won't reply to them separately but I'll just mention that it's about the biggest band (group) in music history, not necessarily the best, or your favourite. The band with the biggest impact on music and popular culture - both at the time and long lasting.
Most general and music historians accept that it is, and may always be, The Beatles. George Martin was indeed a genius as some have mentioned, but without The Beatles his talent would never have been fully realised - and that worked both ways. We shouldn't forget Brian Epstein either; they were all a product of their time, a time never to be repeated and some might call that luck, but really, all that matters is that everything came together at the right time and in the right places, to create musical history.
Many books and documentaries have been published on the subject and are available to anyone who is truly interested in learning why this is so. It's about much more than record sales or 'who's the best'.”
........ really gave a far better response then i would have done.
and to describe a group that went from 'she loves you' to 'tomorrow never knows' in 3 years as 'mediocre' is about as wrong as you can get.