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Old 25-12-2016, 14:46
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She filmed the speech weeks ago
Thanks. I didn't know that.
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Old 25-12-2016, 14:46
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Would yo sooner sit at home with a tipple and mince pie in front of a roaring fire or sit in a draffy cold church listening to some boring vicar twittering on
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Old 25-12-2016, 14:56
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Would yo sooner sit at home with a tipple and mince pie in front of a roaring fire or sit in a draffy cold church listening to some boring vicar twittering on
Good point. There is a lot expected of the Royals really and they don't have a normal life like going down the pub when they feel like it. Well, not the Queen anyway. Yes, they are obscenely rich and it seems to many that they don't do much but their lives are (obviously) public more than ours. I wouldn't like to be a member of the Royal family. All the security if you go shopping or on holiday etc. would annoy me. I suppose the ones born into it don't know any different but I prefer my lifestyle than being born a Royal. Look what happened when Kate was photographed topless by some peeping tom who sold the photos to a magazine. That would be bad enough for a normal person let alone being a Royal.
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Old 25-12-2016, 15:45
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To all those who profess to no feelings about the Queens illness-if a work colleague said thier Grandmother, who you'd never met, was too ill to go to Church, would tell them you didn't give a f**k about her? It's still a 90 year old woman, and I hope she recovers, just as I hope EVERBODY who is ill has a speedy recovery.
What if Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi had the sniffles?
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Old 25-12-2016, 15:49
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90 year old woman doesn't attend church, hold tomorrow's front page!
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Old 25-12-2016, 16:00
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What happens to all the sycophants who drive miles to see her every year? Can they claim their petrol back?
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Old 25-12-2016, 16:22
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What happens to all the sycophants who drive miles to see her every year? Can they claim their petrol back?
No. They got to see the stars of The Windsors TV show, Beatrice and Eugenie.
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Old 25-12-2016, 17:09
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Would yo sooner sit at home with a tipple and mince pie in front of a roaring fire or sit in a draffy cold church listening to some boring vicar twittering on
The difference being that neither you or I are head of the Church of England
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Old 25-12-2016, 19:44
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Whatever people all say and joke about, she has done well over the years and is now 90 years old. It will be very strange for nearly all of us when she passes away and we have a king instead. You would have to be in your seventies to remember her father being king now and even then you would only have been a child. It sounds odd to think of people singing God Save The King etc.
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Old 25-12-2016, 20:30
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Whatever people all say and joke about, she has done well over the years and is now 90 years old. It will be very strange for nearly all of us when she passes away and we have a king instead. You would have to be in your seventies to remember her father being king now and even then you would only have been a child. It sounds odd to think of people singing God Save The King etc.
She has indeed. She has kept her head down and been very astute in safeguarding the income and capital assets of her family.

One of the longest serving Heads of State of a major nation ever and it would be difficult to remember anything significant she has ever said or done. The monarchy will long endure if her successors learn the same tricks.
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Old 25-12-2016, 20:38
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She has indeed. She has kept her head down and been very astute in safeguarding the income and capital assets of her family.

One of the longest serving Heads of State of a major nation ever and it would be difficult to remember anything significant she has ever said or done. The monarchy will long endure if her successors learn the same tricks.
The one thing most people might remember is the initial reaction to Diana's death. But she managed to save the situation just in time, and ultimately came out of it stronger.
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Old 25-12-2016, 20:43
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The one thing most people might remember is the initial reaction to Diana's death. But she managed to save the situation just in time, and ultimately came out of it stronger.
I did qualify my remark with 'significant'. She is indeed mostly remembered for some fast back tracking on a matter of no importance.
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Old 25-12-2016, 20:49
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She has indeed. She has kept her head down and been very astute in safeguarding the income and capital assets of her family.

One of the longest serving Heads of State of a major nation ever and it would be difficult to remember anything significant she has ever said or done. The monarchy will long endure if her successors learn the same tricks.
I read Philip looks after the accounting side. He may be Queens Husband but is head of the family.
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Old 25-12-2016, 20:51
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They should have a stand-in queen lookalike for emergencies such as this.
Yeah, surely Helen Mirren's available as a stand-in. Or if not, maybe some sort of inflatable emergency queen?
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Old 25-12-2016, 20:54
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Yeah, surely Helen Mirren's available as a stand-in. Or if not, maybe some sort of inflatable emergency queen?
In Italy, I think, for Christmas (watched Graham Norton in case you think I'm a stalker).
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Old 25-12-2016, 21:40
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In Italy, I think, for Christmas (watched Graham Norton in case you think I'm a stalker).
Perish the thought.

They should definitely have used an inflatable then, like the automatic pilot demonstrated here.
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Old 25-12-2016, 21:44
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What happens to all the sycophants who drive miles to see her every year? Can they claim their petrol back?
They got to see the Duke of Edinburgh, who looked like death warmed up to me, as he was walking back to and getting in the car.

Plus some other assorted royals.
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Old 25-12-2016, 21:46
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She has indeed. She has kept her head down and been very astute in safeguarding the income and capital assets of her family.

One of the longest serving Heads of State of a major nation ever and it would be difficult to remember anything significant she has ever said or done. The monarchy will long endure if her successors learn the same tricks.
Her successor seems to have a crackpot opinion about everything though unfortunately (for them)
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Old 25-12-2016, 21:54
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I can understand some people don't want Royalty but when push comes to shove I would rather someone who has been trained for many years to do the job of head of state than have a president Blair/Johnson/Milliband/Corbyn or any of the other politicians.
The Queen, while I might not agree with the wealth, yet there are many who have much more wealth and influence in some cases, has been a huge asset to this country, she's an incredible ambassador who does her homework when meeting other representatives and heads of state.
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Old 25-12-2016, 21:59
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I'm not a Royalist by any means but I wouldn't wish any harm on two old people. Just noticed a pic of Phillip and the poor bugger doesn't look at well.
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Old 25-12-2016, 22:08
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I can understand some people don't want Royalty but when push comes to shove I would rather someone who has been trained for many years to do the job of head of state than have a president Blair/Johnson/Milliband/Corbyn or any of the other politicians.
The Queen, while I might not agree with the wealth, yet there are many who have much more wealth and influence in some cases, has been a huge asset to this country, she's an incredible ambassador who does her homework when meeting other representatives and heads of state.
Although it was arguably Blair's political instinct and advice that saved the Queen from blundering over her response to Diana's death.

If she is a an effective ambassador perhaps you can identify something specific her diplomatic skills have achieved?
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Old 25-12-2016, 22:25
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Although it was arguably Blair's political instinct and advice that saved the Queen from blundering over her response to Diana's death.

If she is a an effective ambassador perhaps you can identify something specific her diplomatic skills have achieved?
Myabe being diplomatic as a royal representative means she keeps things on an even keel, she doesn't personally have to have achieved a trade deal or a cease fire. She's well known for making people feel like they count, she's non political so maybe has a bit more leaway with other heads of state, she makes sure she's well versed on everyone she meets according to the Commonwealth heads of state and others, maybe I should say and excellent host and guest perhaps if you don't like ambassador. Obviously I am not in the diplomatic service so you may choose to disregard what I say but a bit of research may justify my humble opinion. She's someone who understands duty and sacrifice, (not monitery of course but personal) unlike so many these days, it seems to be a dirty word and 'I want/must have ' is the current mantra.
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Old 25-12-2016, 22:31
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Can't see her making it to 2017 tbh.
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Old 25-12-2016, 22:35
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Myabe being diplomatic as a royal representative means she keeps things on an even keel, she doesn't personally have to have achieved a trade deal or a cease fire. She's well known for making people feel like they count, she's non political so maybe has a bit more leaway with other heads of state, she makes sure she's well versed on everyone she meets according to the Commonwealth heads of state and others, maybe I should say and excellent host and guest perhaps if you don't like ambassador. Obviously I am not in the diplomatic service so you may choose to disregard what I say but a bit of research may justify my humble opinion. She's someone who understands duty and sacrifice, (not monitery of course but personal) unlike so many these days, it seems to be a dirty word and 'I want/must have ' is the current mantra.
Research may well justify your opinion. Can I suggest that task is down to you if you wish to give credence to your claims?

If she has just been an effective host for the last 60 plus years then she has frankly been very well paid for that job in monetary terms and for some 40 of those years she negotiated tax exemption for herself. During years in which I and most of her subjects paid tax willingly and at a high level. So I do not accept the self-sacrifice argument.

Sorry I just see an ordinary person who has done a very well paid job; which she inherited; looked out for herself: and has lived a long time.
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Old 25-12-2016, 22:37
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Can't see her making it to 2017 tbh.
I can see her outliving her mother, and it would never surprise me if she outlives Charles, he is an old looking 68.
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