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Higher wages then as they compete for workers.
![]() The current employment structure of temp workers, zero hour contracts will ensure they fill posts without consequence. They'll probably use "skills shortage" as an excuse to force the training costs onto the employees. |
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So positive news then as a majority of 6 out of 10 don't have a problem. Maybe the other 4 need to speak to them to see how it's done
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Perhaps if the University Degrees that were obtained by students taking them were more in keeping with what employers require rather than some pointless waste-of-time degree in some obscure subject of little use to anyone, there would be suitable candidates to fill the vacancies in the jobs market.
A degree in Greek Art is of little use to an employer who wants an engineer. We have thousands with degrees in social media to fill any job vacancies that may arise 20x over. |
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OMG what will the curry houses do if they can't bring in their family members!!!!!?!?????!?!
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But what use is a degree to someone on a farm picking fruit/veg? muscles and ability to go on for long hours surely are more important than having a first class degree from some Polish uni.
and also, if the hope is to eventually train up someone to a more managerial role, again the more educated person is a likelier bet. |
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because if someone had sufficient self- discipline to complete a degree, then basic things, like turning up for work on time and doing one's best is pretty likely.
and also, if the hope is to eventually train up someone to a more managerial role, again the more educated person is a likelier bet. |
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because if someone had sufficient self- discipline to complete a degree, then basic things, like turning up for work on time and doing one's best is pretty likely.
and also, if the hope is to eventually train up someone to a more managerial role, again the more educated person is a likelier bet. he always had on velcro trainers.Paper qualifications might be nice but if i'm paying someone to pick fruit and veg i want the fastest person who's safe with a blade not some idiot who while good on paper needs a lot of help to do anything more than breathe. |
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because if someone had sufficient self- discipline to complete a degree, then basic things, like turning up for work on time and doing one's best is pretty likely.
and also, if the hope is to eventually train up someone to a more managerial role, again the more educated person is a likelier bet. |
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Why exactly?
They have a global market to choose from |
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You may think that but the fact is, employers disagree.
For a job in fruit-picking, employers will go for the degree-educated person , given a choice. Tough eh ? Quote:
because if someone had sufficient self- discipline to complete a degree, then basic things, like turning up for work on time and doing one's best is pretty likely.
and also, if the hope is to eventually train up someone to a more managerial role, again the more educated person is a likelier bet. tahiti I am going to make the rather safe bet that in the field of hiring people to do fruit picking you have not the faintest idea what you are talking about. |
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For punishment you are required to have some more brandy* and even more mince pies, that'll teach you
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The truth of it is that 4/10 employers fear having to offer some decent terms, conditions and wages to their employees.
It's hardly a surprise that businesses like an unlimited supply of cheap labour. It's not too nice for the employee who can't afford food and shelter without government (tax payer) assistance though. |
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It's important to understand that no company will ever admit the truth about what they are all about.
They talk of "skills", they mean cheap labour that'll work overtime for nothing and take abuse... Giving business what it wants is ruining the UKs economy, at least as it pertains to individuals. Maybe there are a few people who do well, but most people are gradually pulled down. It's hard to believe the Conservatives have a 40% poll rating. |
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It's important to understand that no company will ever admit the truth about what they are all about.
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They talk of "skills", they mean cheap labour that'll work overtime for nothing and take abuse...
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Giving business what it wants is ruining the UKs economy, at least as it pertains to individuals. Maybe there are a few people who do well, but most people are gradually pulled down.
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It's hard to believe the Conservatives have a 40% poll rating.
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To the people who say that the businesses concerned should train unemployed people in this country.
Does that not depend on the level of unemployment in the area that company is based. If the company is based in an area with low unemployment (most of London and the South East for example). Then there will not be enough people available that can do that kind of work or will want to do that kind of work. |
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To the people who say that the businesses concerned should train unemployed people in this country.
Does that not depend on the level of unemployment in the area that company is based. If the company is based in an area with low unemployment (most of London and the South East for example). Then there will not be enough people available that can do that kind of work or will want to do that kind of work. |
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Then they could recruit from the north of England rather than Poland or if they need lots of workers even move production to the north of England.
1) The company that I work for has to go up north to find young workers who couldn't be bothered to come south to find work for themselves. On the other hand young Eastern European workers decided for themselves to come to the UK with little or no money and look for work without any help from anyone. Who do you think that would make the better employee. 2) Most of the older workforce in the north a family men and women who cannot afford to move their families south do to house prices in the south. So it is impossible for them to do what you are saying. 3) There is a significant shortage of indigenous young workers (now and in the immediate future) in this country due to the low birth rate in the 90's and most of the 2000's. This gap needs to be filled from somewhere. |
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So lets see.
1) The company that I work for has to go up north to find young workers who couldn't be bothered to come south to find work for themselves. On the other hand young Eastern European workers decided for themselves to come to the UK with little or no money and look for work without any help from anyone. Who do you think that would make the better employee. 2) Most of the older workforce in the north a family men and women who cannot afford to move their families south do to house prices in the south. So it is impossible for them to do what you are saying. 3) There is a significant shortage of indigenous young workers (now and in the immediate future) in this country due to the low birth rate in the 90's and most of the 2000's. This gap needs to be filled from somewhere. |
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Four in 10 British businesses fear post-Brexit skills shortages = Four in 10 British businesses fear hiring british workers
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So lets see.
1) The company that I work for has to go up north to find young workers who couldn't be bothered to come south to find work for themselves. On the other hand young Eastern European workers decided for themselves to come to the UK with little or no money and look for work without any help from anyone. Who do you think that would make the better employee. 2) Most of the older workforce in the north a family men and women who cannot afford to move their families south do to house prices in the south. So it is impossible for them to do what you are saying. 3) There is a significant shortage of indigenous young workers (now and in the immediate future) in this country due to the low birth rate in the 90's and most of the 2000's. This gap needs to be filled from somewhere. Quote:
There's a significant shortage of indigenous workers doing low skilled jobs because successive governments have made the incentives of benefits and sitting at home on their arses more attractive then going out to work. Benefits should be for people who genuinely cannot work. There are able bodied people in their mid 40's who know how to milk the system and have never had a job in their lives.
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