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yeah well i have a money shortage, but im not turning to the government for support
why these so called self employed people get so much government assistance .. cheap labour, low taxes, low interest rates .. it seems to me the latest problem is that theyve got too many customers, given that they cant find staff. do this - raise prices, and youll have less customers ... problem solved. |
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Newsflash: this isn't the 1950s anymore. People have greater expectations when it comes to job hunting. I'm not about to pack my job in and go fruit picking, nor am I going to do so if I am made redundant.
It's the government's problem to solve, as it is their responsibility to provide an education system that equips people for the future - whether they want to pursue university or an apprenticeship or start their own business. When that system fails to provide, we look abroad to seek out their best and brightest. Unfortunately, Brexshitters seem determined to close this down. Hire anyone, no matter how unsuitable, unqualified and incompetent they may be... as long as they're British. and if you are self employed perhaps you need start relying on your "self" , because this is what self employment is all about. |
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the economy corrects itself and doesnt any need any kind of government interference.
and if you are self employed perhaps you need start relying on your "self" , because this is what self employment is all about. Even flawed markets tend to do better than other attempts at providing goods and services though, but that doesn't mean that there's any equivalent of a physical law that says this will always be true. |
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Skills shortages = fair pay rates, fair working hours and conditions of work and the end of 'zero-hours' contracts.
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Skills shortages = fair pay rates, fair working hours and conditions of work and the end of 'zero-hours' contracts.
once immigration from the EU comes to a halt, big business will make moves to accelerate mass immigration from third world nations outside the EU. |
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dont get your hopes up though.
once immigration from the EU comes to a halt, big business will make moves to accelerate mass immigration from third world nations outside the EU. |
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But we will have control of such things and we will not have to ask Germany's permission before we change immigration policy.
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But we will have control of such things and we will not have to ask Germany's permission before we change immigration policy.
You don't appear to have heard of the term "consensus", as you think that even for EU matters, we have to "ask" Germany for "permission". |
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Skills shortages = fair pay rates, fair working hours and conditions of work and the end of 'zero-hours' contracts.
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Skills shortages = fair pay rates, fair working hours and conditions of work and the end of 'zero-hours' contracts.
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Too much choice can definitely be counterproductive, just look at the people who end up turning away perfectly viable partners because they feel they should wait for 'the one'. I think employers, when they have far too many applicants for positions, tend to do the same. They become extremely picky and often the things they use as the deciding factor are the easily judged things, rather than the most important ones. So they insist on ever higher grades, then start demanding more and more work experience, and so on.
They also become more complacent as well. It becomes all about what you can offer them, and not about what they can offer you in return. "Do you think you're overqualified for... [picking fruit]?" I always wondered why should that matter to the employer, but of course it matters because in the past those overqualified individuals had options to move on to better things and so the employer had to weigh up the pro's of having a well educated work force to pick fruit and the cons of having less dedicated fruit pickers who constantly seek and obtain better paid work. The dynamics of the labour market guided the resolution of the dilemma so what we saw in the past was employers ensuring employees had the most relevant skills for [picking fruit] and that they could see that person sticking around a while. But specifying an employee should have communication skills at degree level standard or some other indirectly related asset, was a luxury, labour market conditions didn't allow. Whilst looking for unskilled jobs, being highly skilled or educated attached a negative value to your cv because you had the choices, the employer had few. If the dynamics changed, if overqualified workers we're less able to find better work perhaps due to saturation of the labour market you can see how business is presented with a win win scenario - Overqualified workers for the price of qualified workers. This is what the agricultural businesses are worried about when they say they'l be a labour shortage if we reduce immigration. They want the best workers from anywhere and everywhere to aid productivity but to pay the lowest wage. They'l be no shortage, just a new reality of more choice to workers, it may break them. |
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the economy corrects itself and doesnt any need any kind of government interference.
and if you are self employed perhaps you need start relying on your "self" , because this is what self employment is all about. |
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How will paying people more to work in Sports Direct warehouses help with the skills shortage?
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In healthcare there is an increasing shortage of qualified nurses. Wages are going down in real terms, as are job conditions on the whole.
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Businesses need to remember how to train up school-leavers to do jobs instead of relying on immigrants and graduates who have had to pay to be trained instead of being paid to train as always used to be the case.
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Businesses need to remember how to train up school-leavers to do jobs instead of relying on immigrants and graduates who have had to pay to be trained instead of being paid to train as always used to be the case.
Here are some examples of non-graduate apprenticeships: http://uk.gsk.com/en-gb/careers/apprenticeships/ https://www2.deloitte.com/uk/en/page...ip-scheme.html http://careers.rolls-royce.co.uk/uni...hool-leavers#/ http://www.hsbc.com/careers/students...apprenticeship http://www.networkrail.co.uk/careers...ceship-scheme/ However, these schemes are very competitive to get on to and the ones with the best employers often have higher entry standards than many University courses. |
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Many companies do, as practically every new employee requires training of some kind. They do prefer to hire people who have even a basic understanding of the thing they've been hired to do though, even if the specifics have to be learnt on the job
But please, do tell us how we're going to take someone who practically failed their GCSEs, who struggles to string a sentence together, and turn them into a doctor or engineer by having companies pay for years and years of training (and low productivity). Because that's the sort of people we're looking at here. The people who got on in life probably already found jobs even with those menacing foreigners being able to walk in and take them too. Or, in the Brexit universe, are these the people who will gleefully jump into the fields and spend the rest of their days fruit picking? |
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Why are people leaving school barely literate? That would seem to be the problem here.
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whining cut for brevity
For those who actually have a bit of a brain and can string a sentence together, many companies already do look for them with apprenticeships and entry level jobs. It'll be the dregs who have an issue, hence my pertinent example. But I'm sure we'll use them to fill the impending shortages in the NHS! |
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Why are people leaving school barely literate? That would seem to be the problem here.
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Truly skilled workers aren't the ones who will have a problem. They'll find a job regardless, and if that's not in the UK, other countries will throw visas at them to come over and work there. That may also discourage foreign talent coming to the UK, since this government is determined to make life ever more difficult for anyone who is here on a student or work visa.
For those who actually have a bit of a brain and can string a sentence together, many companies already do look for them with apprenticeships and entry level jobs. It'll be the dregs who have an issue, hence my pertinent example. But I'm sure we'll use them to fill the impending shortages in the NHS! |
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How will paying people more to work in Sports Direct warehouses help with the skills shortage?
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BIB: You don't agree with the article then? Least that's established I suppose and expecting or suggesting a 'dreg' is trained to be doctors and the like is very far away from pertinent and you know that.
The truly skilled will go where the money is. That includes a potential brain drain from the UK as people don't want to live in the divisive, backwards society that this country is rapidly heading towards. We're compounding the issue by putting up barriers for people to come over and fill the gap. That includes what we do to non-EU immigrants today. Like I said in my original post in this thread, my employer already finds it a challenge to recruit good people - and that's with the benefit of being able to consider people from any EU country. Take that away (by making it difficult through visas and immigration bollox) and that reduces the pool further. This year they've had to lower the bar to entry even in their graduate programme (you can be considered with a measly 2:2) because they're getting rather desperate. |
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Why are people leaving school barely literate? That would seem to be the problem here.
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But we will have control of such things and we will not have to ask Germany's permission before we change immigration policy.
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