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I went to midnight communion at my local church last night. I know I should have known that the clue is in the word but I was slightly surprised when they started the bread and wine thing.
I feel slightly embarrassed about doing this as I don't believe. Do other unbelievers take communion? Do any christians think I was wrong to take it? Quote:
It's done as a remembrance of Jesus dying as a substitute for mankind (just as in the Old Testament if someone sinned they would pay for it by offering an animal sacrifice, to die in their place).
If you don't believe it seems pointless to take part, so I'd have stayed in my seat, and just enjoyed singing the carols ![]() EDIT to add: As the above poster says, in traditional churches you have to be confirmed in the church to take it. The Catholic church sees the bread and wine as literal body and blood. Personally I can't see why Christ has to be sacrificed over and over again. It's like saying once wasn't sufficient. 23 For I received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which he was betrayed took bread; 24 and when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, This is my body, which is for you: this do in remembrance of me. 25 In like manner also the cup, after supper, saying, This cup is the new covenant in my blood: this do, as often as ye drink [it], in remembrance of me. 26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink the cup, ye proclaim the Lord's death till he come. |
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And the joy of about 40 French villagers all returning from receiving Communion wondering why you didn't go up
Husband is obvious he's a Lutheran after all, but many have known me all my life Unfortunately with just one Church in the village it's difficult to change Churches and no doubt the priest of one talks to the priest of the other Cool bloke, shame about his power hungry followers. |
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What type of wine do they use for communion, is it low alcoholic, or something with more alcohol like a good rich burgundy of lighter like a beaujolais, or is it a job job produced especially for the church?
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What type of wine do they use for communion, is it low alcoholic, or something with more alcohol like a good rich burgundy of lighter like a beaujolais, or is it a job job produced especially for the church?
http://altarwine.com/ http://www.victorychurchproducts.com...FQEOaQodQScBTQ Usually the diocese has a pre-purchase agreement with a particular seller and have pre-purchased so many gallons at a discount price. I think it's usually delivered in boxes rather than bottles because it's easier to store |
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The wine is about 7-10% ABV and because it's supposed to be pure without anything added to it (flavours, preservatives ....etc.) you aren't supposed to just be able to pop round to your local supermarket and buy it in bulk from a religious wholesaler
http://altarwine.com/ http://www.victorychurchproducts.com...FQEOaQodQScBTQ Usually the diocese has a pre-purchase agreement with a particular seller and have pre-purchased so many gallons at a discount price. I think it's usually delivered in boxes rather than bottles because it's easier to store |
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The wine is about 7-10% ABV and because it's supposed to be pure without anything added to it (flavours, preservatives ....etc.) you aren't supposed to just be able to pop round to your local supermarket and buy it in bulk from a religious wholesaler
http://altarwine.com/ http://www.victorychurchproducts.com...FQEOaQodQScBTQ Usually the diocese has a pre-purchase agreement with a particular seller and have pre-purchased so many gallons at a discount price. I think it's usually delivered in boxes rather than bottles because it's easier to store |
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There's a great horror film from about 1978 called Communion where a young girl's stabbed to death by someone in a yellow raincoat on the day of her First Communion. Check it out as it's good.
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You could do a communion with a can of pop and a kitkat ( other biscuits are available)
The rules for Communion areQuote:
1 The most holy Sacrifice of the Eucharist must be celebrated in bread, and in wine to which a small quantity of water is to be added.
§2 The bread must be wheaten only, and recently made, so that there is no danger of corruption. §3 The wine must be natural, made from grapes of the vine, and not corrupt |
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First Communion for children is still a big thing here in Ireland. In fact one of my local Dunnes Stores (department store with a supermarket and clothes and household goods) was already selling white Communion dresses! People tend to go all out for parties and amongst lots of people it's seen more as a social event or rite of passage than a sacrament. Preparation is done at school during class time. I'm not Catholic so didn't go through the whole Communion and Confirmation thing but loads of my friends did.
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My Husband isn't Catholic and so when invited to go up front also declines the offer. Unfortunately as I got divorced and re-married without seeking a Church Annulment I've been excommunicated (in the literal sense of the word) so I am also not allowed to attend Communion (when we go to my local Church in France as we don't go here in the UK) so we stand there while all the others go up
Never mind I'm sure that Cheetah person will be along soon to tell us them's the rules and we need to respect them! |
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What type of wine do they use for communion, is it low alcoholic, or something with more alcohol like a good rich burgundy of lighter like a beaujolais, or is it a job job produced especially for the church?
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I went to midnight communion at my local church last night. I know I should have known that the clue is in the word but I was slightly surprised when they started the bread and wine thing.
I feel slightly embarrassed about doing this as I don't believe. Do other unbelievers take communion? Do any christians think I was wrong to take it? Had you been in the pub for a few hours ? |
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They use non alcoholic communion wine at my local church - it isn't very nice. It's syrupy and strong like undiluted ribena or something.
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I'm not confirmed and usually only go to midnight mass but I wouldn't feel right to take communion. Yes I could and really no one would know, but for me personally it wouldn't be right. If you don't believe as the OP said, I'd be embarrassed as well. I'm not sure why you'd want to partake. I usually go to the front and put my hands behind my back so they know that I only want a blessing.
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Unlikely
The rules for Communion are |
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My Husband isn't Catholic and so when invited to go up front also declines the offer. Unfortunately as I got divorced and re-married without seeking a Church Annulment I've been excommunicated (in the literal sense of the word) so I am also not allowed to attend Communion (when we go to my local Church in France as we don't go here in the UK) so we stand there while all the others go up
I have never seen anybody standing if they are not going to take communion in either Anglican or the Catholic church. There are also many people who take communion that have re-married. I sense a fair degree of embroidery going on here.
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Really curious who invites you to go for communion?
I have never seen anybody standing if they are not going to take communion in either Anglican or the Catholic church. There are also many people who take communion that have re-married. I sense a fair degree of embroidery going on here.http://www.churchmilitant.com/news/a...-and-remarried http://www.ncregister.com/blog/edwar...ried-divorcees Our Village Priest doesn't even believe in Vatican 2. I did the whole thing, divorced without an annulment and got re-married in a German Town Hall to a Lutheran ![]() I presume it's the same in most Churches in that it's not a free for all up the front, one of the Sacristans invites your row up front |
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In the Catholic Church you're only supposed to remarry if you've had your previous marriage annulled and are thus unable to take Communion
http://www.churchmilitant.com/news/a...-and-remarried http://www.ncregister.com/blog/edwar...ried-divorcees Our Village Priest doesn't even believe in Vatican 2. I did the whole thing, divorced without an annulment and got re-married in a German Town Hall to a Lutheran ![]() I presume it's the same in most Churches in that it's not a free for all up the front, one of the Sacristans invites your row up front I have never seen the congregation invited in a formal way, everybody that practices knows the protocol, the same throughout Europe and the USA. As I have never seen people who do not take communion stand. |
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I am fully aware of the rules, but we all know people still take communion and it is highly unlikely the priest would refuse or make a fuss.
I have never seen the congregation invited in a formal way, everybody that practices knows the protocol, the same throughout Europe and the USA. As I have never seen people who do not take communion stand. |
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The only rule is that it is a communion with oneself and god. It's precisely what it says on the tin, communion.
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Husband is obvious he's a Lutheran after all, but many have known me all my life 
I have never seen anybody standing if they are not going to take communion in either Anglican or the Catholic church. There are also many people who take communion that have re-married. I sense a fair degree of embroidery going on here.