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York Minster bells silent at Christmas for first time in 600 years
"York Minster's bells fell silent on Christmas Day for the first time in more than 600 years after the bell-ringing team was disbanded following a row over the reinstatement of one of their group.
Visitors at the cathedral have been warned to expect a silent Christmas period after the Minster's 30-strong ringing group was sacked in October. Ringers had refused to accept the decision not to reinstate a member who had been suspended following a police investigation into allegations of sex offences against children, which did not lead to a prosecution. Another group of campanologists from Leeds were asked to fill the gap but reportedly refused to help out in solidarity with their sacked colleagues." http://news.sky.com/story/york-minst...years-10707561 Nice to see the spirit of Christmas and Christianity is alive and well in York |
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They weren't rung during WW2
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someone who rings bells is a bell-ringer, surprisingly, and not a campanologist
tho a campanologist might ring bells, and a bell-ringer might be a campanologist |
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Nice to see the spirit of Christmas and Christianity is alive and well in York
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Shame.
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I assume you mean the spirit that includes the protection of the young and vulnerable?
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If someone is investigated and found to be an ongoing risk then yes.
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If someone is investigated and found to be an ongoing risk then yes.
And they dismissed the rest who were never accused http://www.yorkminsterbells.org.uk/?p=529 Following a court hearing in December 2015, the judge decided that no sanction should be imposed. Costs were also awarded against North Yorkshire Police. We are told that this is unusual and typically indicates that the case is so weak as to be tantamount to a waste of the court’s time. And they did offer to ring the bells http://www.yorkminsterbells.org.uk/?p=522 |
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Bit of an own goal by York Minster.
Paedohysteria strikes again. |
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It's a very strange case where all the other bell ringers support him.
Apparently, York tried to get in bell ringers from Durham, but they refused. |
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Paedohysteria strikes again.
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If someone is investigated and not prosecuted or charged should they lose any job they hold ?
Didn't stop Cliff Richard's career There seem to be people out there prepared to make unsubstantial accusations |
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What i can't figure on this is the time lapse. As he was first investigated in 1999 it's not clear whether he was suspended then, or only in 2014 when the case was reviewed again.
Either way they are victimising an innocent man. |
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What i can't figure on this is the time lapse. As he was first investigated in 1999 it's not clear whether he was suspended then, or only in 2014 when the case was reviewed again.
Either way they are victimising an innocent man. He was suspended in 2014 from what I can see when it was reviewed. |
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I assume you mean the spirit that includes the protection of the young and vulnerable?
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Alison Saunders of the CPS had many abuse cases reviewed in the months after she took over
He was suspended in 2014 from what I can see when it was reviewed. |
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I have no comment on this case, or any others I hear about because I can't know all the evidence and I wasn't there etc
But I am deeply uncomfortable with the CPS continually phrasing their decisions as "We are referring the case to Court because there is a realistic prospect of conviction" It does not seem to consider the quality or soundness of the evidence and seems to pre-suppose Guilt. |
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Sounds like the minster chapter are now being overzealous in a reactionary way to compensate for the Church's lapses in the past.
Good on the bellringers to rally and refuse to ring en bloc. You don't much get solidarity like that for against an injustice these days |
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Sounds like the minster chapter are now being overzealous in a reactionary way to compensate for the Church's lapses in the past.
Good on the bellringers to rally and refuse to ring en bloc. You don't much get solidarity like that for against an injustice these days http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/35971308 |
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Bell ringing is reallly really annoying, I bet only about 3 people are devastated.
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I believe this story has a lot more to it that can be released into the public domain.
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There's a Midsomer Murders episode in there somewhere.
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I believe this story has a lot more to it that can be released into the public domain.
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Bell ringing is really really annoying, I bet only about 3 people are devastated.
Thousands go to hear the bells at this church which is known the world over. It's a tourist attraction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQaQekxJkTE |
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I always find it amusing when people whine about bell ringing 'annoying' them. Most don't even live there and the moaners that do, the church bells were there centuries before them.
Thousands go to hear the bells at this church which is known the world over. It's a tourist attraction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQaQekxJkTE On the continent they just ring them all at once, which can make an awful discordant din. |
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