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Old 27-12-2016, 09:23
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So all these people who have received gifts from George Michael in the last seven years are potentially liable to pay Inheritance Tax on them.

Wouldn't be fair to 'overlook' them, as it would make a mockery of the rest of us who have to go by the book.
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Old 27-12-2016, 09:24
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The Sun and Telegraph are saying he was on heroin.
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Old 27-12-2016, 09:25
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The Daily Mail is posting long articles delving why he didn't come out earlier in his career, however they completely ignore a key reason which was the horribly homophobic tabloid press at the time....
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Old 27-12-2016, 10:14
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I find it weird that both Rick Parfitt and George Michael have passed away within approx 24 hours of each other, as I associate both with the birth of my son and his first week of life. My son was born in 1997, I had him by planned c section, and George's Fastlove was playing on the radio in the theatre when my son entered the world. My son had a major heart problem and needed open heart surgery, which he had when he was a week old. The surgery was going to take several hours and my family and I spent the day in a room in a flat in the hospital (one that's provided for parents and relatives of patients). We bought papers to read to try and pass the time and Rick Parfitt was on the front of one of them talking about the quadruple heart bypass he'd recently had. It obviously grabbed my attention as my newborn son was at that time in theatre having open heart surgery which we didn't know if he'd survive. So Rick's health problems stuck with me and I always made a point of reading any stories about his health over the years, and it's just such a weird coincidence for me that he and George have both now gone within a day of each other.

RIP Rick and George

Something is not right with this I went to bed early Xmas night and got a message at 11pm saying he had died and obviously thought that's a shock.

So got up and hear that he died peacefully in his sleep? So did he die in the afternoon or Xmas eve. Was he on his own on Xmas day?

I liked the bloke hated his music and could not care less about his sexuality but something is not right.

If they had said he died of a massive heart attack no problem but i think something is being coverd up people to pay off stuff to be taken away!

Anyway like i said I don't really care but something fishy is going on
I'm not sure about something fishy as such, but there are a couple of things I find odd. His partner tweeted and mentioned finding George dead "first thing in the morning." Yet the paramedics weren't called until sometime between 1:30pm and 2pm. No matter what time you get up, 1:30-2pm is nowhere near first thing in the morning. So did his partner spend many hours with his body before calling paramedics? Also, the Daily Mail have a picture of George's partner apparently visiting his home in Goring on Christmas Eve. Why would a photographer be there on Christmas Eve? It's Goring, it's not Central London where photographers tend to be based. I've walked past George's home in Goring and it isn't somewhere you'd get photographers waiting to get snaps without good reason. It makes me wonder if George's health was in a very bad way and the media knew this and were aware he likely didn't have long left hence the photographer being outside his home on Christmas Eve and taking the picture/s of his partner.
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Old 27-12-2016, 11:55
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That's nice of them .... they can't just put decent posed pics up then? ... no .. they have to use candid shots. Bet they're rubbing their hands together with glee that the pics can be put to good use alongside sly insinuations masquerading as concern.
F**king sewer dwellers!
Yes. Supply and demand.
Whatever the coroner's report says eventually, he strongly felt that the "media" had never had their full pound of flesh. This was a man who was stalked outside his London home for many years desperate, for a photo of him cottaging/ high/ "dying of Aids"/looking shit.
( And of course it's reflected in many posts on this thread. )

He had some interesting theories on why people liked to read/focus on this kind of thing. He paid his taxes here, unlike his equivalents but do remember him a few years ago, saying on TV that he felt he would have to leave the UK.
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Old 27-12-2016, 12:00
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So all these people who have received gifts from George Michael in the last seven years are potentially liable to pay Inheritance Tax on them.
Don't think it works like that. Inheritance tax is on assets passed on after death not charitable gifts made years prior.
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Old 27-12-2016, 12:07
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So all these people who have received gifts from George Michael in the last seven years are potentially liable to pay Inheritance Tax on them.

Wouldn't be fair to 'overlook' them, as it would make a mockery of the rest of us who have to go by the book.
George Michael is the only that will be paying inheritance tax, which is usually done by the executor of his estate via probate.
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Old 27-12-2016, 12:37
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So all these people who have received gifts from George Michael in the last seven years are potentially liable to pay Inheritance Tax on them.

Wouldn't be fair to 'overlook' them, as it would make a mockery of the rest of us who have to go by the book.
He's not been buried yet.
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Old 27-12-2016, 12:46
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So all these people who have received gifts from George Michael in the last seven years are potentially liable to pay Inheritance Tax on them.

Wouldn't be fair to 'overlook' them, as it would make a mockery of the rest of us who have to go by the book.
They didn't inherit anything from him though. They were given gifts from him.
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Old 27-12-2016, 12:53
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From what is being reported GM gave a lot to charities behind the scenes. He was obviously a very caring and generous person and I wouldn't be surprised to hear that he has left quite a bit of his fortune to charities in his will.
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Old 27-12-2016, 13:06
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The Daily Mail is posting long articles delving why he didn't come out earlier in his career, however they completely ignore a key reason which was the horribly homophobic tabloid press at the time....
Ah, the good old Daily Fail! Who yesterday were referring to him in the present tense!

George Michael has died aged 53, his publicist revealed late last night. The singer, who launched his pop career with Wham! in the 1980's, is said to have passed away peacefully at his home in Oxfordshire. Michael-whose real name is Georgios Kyriacos Panayiotou-was set to release a documentary of his life next year
Since he's dead, surely they should have said "real name WAS", not IS! Further on in the article it says "Michael has admitted to taking cannabis in the past", again that should say "HAD admitted".

Get it right you DM clowns!
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Old 27-12-2016, 13:23
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Don't think it works like that. Inheritance tax is on assets passed on after death not charitable gifts made years prior.
Gifts made within the seven years prior to death are taken into account when assessing the amount of the estate. Charitable lifetime gifts (or bequests) are exempt from tax. And as already pointed out, Inheritance Tax is payable from the estate, not by anybody who has received lifetime gifts.
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Old 27-12-2016, 13:25
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From what is being reported GM gave a lot to charities behind the scenes. He was obviously a very caring and generous person and I wouldn't be surprised to hear that he has left quite a bit of his fortune to charities in his will.
It's ALL going to his godchildren according to the heil who have presumably illegally read the will.
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Old 27-12-2016, 13:58
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It's ALL going to his godchildren according to the heil who have presumably illegally read the will.
What about royalties income? Apparently his songs have surged in the iTunes download charts. I hope he's left a charitable trust in his name to carry on his memory and the causes he supported.
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Old 27-12-2016, 14:28
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Gifts made within the seven years prior to death are taken into account when assessing the amount of the estate.
Perhaps but there is no way they will be taxed. That is probably to protect against someone who has a terminal illness gifting all of their assets before death to try and avoid tax. That is clearly not the case here.
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Old 27-12-2016, 14:47
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Perhaps but there is no way they will be taxed. That is probably to protect against someone who has a terminal illness gifting all of their assets before death to try and avoid tax. That is clearly not the case here.
I was talking about the broad principles rather than going into the minutiae of tax law - there are various other exemptions and reliefs available - more info here.
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Old 27-12-2016, 15:18
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The Daily Mail is posting long articles delving why he didn't come out earlier in his career, however they completely ignore a key reason which was the horribly homophobic tabloid press at the time....
Gutter press - I would expect no less.
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Old 27-12-2016, 16:53
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RIP George. A decent white bloke who had a soul voice.
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Old 27-12-2016, 17:16
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I hope that George made provision for his boy friend, all too often when the wealthy half of a gay relationship dies there is no provision for the survivor and previously friendly and "understanding" family members become very greedy and hostile. In some cases the survivor finishes up homeless
I recall stories of this Arab partner sleeping on the floor of George's room in the Swiss (?) hospital to care for him
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Old 27-12-2016, 17:29
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I hope that George made provision for his boy friend, all too often when the wealthy half of a gay relationship dies there is no provision for the survivor and previously friendly and "understanding" family members become very greedy and hostile. In some cases the survivor finishes up homeless
I recall stories of this Arab partner sleeping on the floor of George's room in the Swiss (?) hospital to care for him
Good point.
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Old 27-12-2016, 17:35
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What about royalties income? Apparently his songs have surged in the iTunes download charts. I hope he's left a charitable trust in his name to carry on his memory and the causes he supported.
I imagine people such as George Michael, who have large, ongoing incomes and legal advice coming out of their wazoo, have made pretty tight wills years before they pass away.
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Old 27-12-2016, 17:38
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Did anyone see Esther Rantzen on BBC news today? Privately he supported and gave millions to the Childline project over many years.
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Old 27-12-2016, 17:54
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Did anyone see Esther Rantzen on BBC news today? Privately he supported and gave millions to the Childline project over many years.
It doesn't surprise me.

I imagine everybody earning huge amounts of cash - from One Direction to Mick Jagger - gives rather large amounts to charity. I imagine they are advised to do so early on in their careers.

There would clearly be more altruistic reasons for doing so too, like caring about a cause. Most celebrities are aligned with a charity or two that is close to their heart.

Not to take away from GM's obvious generosity, but he's not the only celebrity that would be doing so is my point.
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Old 27-12-2016, 18:02
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Rest in love, beautiful George.
https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=ulhoKujT2G8
I don't believe in life after death, but still a tiny part of me hopes you are reunited with Anselmo, slow dancing and kissing together. xxx.
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Old 27-12-2016, 18:05
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The Daily Mail is posting long articles delving why he didn't come out earlier in his career, however they completely ignore a key reason which was the horribly homophobic tabloid press at the time....
I would say most probably a commercial decision at the time as wham had a very large young female fan base and coming out as gay could most likely have put a lot of them off him.
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