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Old 01-01-2017, 10:36
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A loose cannon? Overcome by grief? ( Bit of an idiot? He was putting out unreleased tunes last week which he also had to then delete.)

IDK if he has issues but the police did say "no suspicious circumstances" which surely means that they saw no evidence of either suicide nor OD.

Maybe he thinks he might be implicated. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...end-drug-fears
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Old 01-01-2017, 10:37
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Wouldn't be shocked if he did kill himself he did throw himself from a car a few years back ,he clearly was not the same George with he's ill health,and reports saying he couldn't sing the same ,etc but let's all hope he has found peace the words to he's last hit white light are so real to this story,
What's the source for that though? Equally he could have been off his face and raging and that could have been some other kind of crazy ( There are easier ways to kill yourself. Equally i find it hard to believe that he was just closing a door properly at 70mph as per his PR after the event.)
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Old 01-01-2017, 10:41
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Ah! Thank you. Hadn't thought of that.

I had a look at it, after trumpeting what might just be due process by the cops-questioning him- they then end that article with:
"There is no suggestion the grieving stylist, who found George’s body, has done anything wrong or has any link to drugs."

Edit - at the base of your link there's another one claiming that he had changed his mind about having kids. Could just be rubbish from unnamed sources again.
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Old 01-01-2017, 10:48
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Bizarre. It's well known that he suffered from depression and felt suicidal years ago ( after partner then mum died ) but OTOH plenty said he seemed to be really looking forward to his 2017 new projects.


A loose cannon? Overcome by grief? ( Bit of an idiot? He was putting out unreleased tunes last week which he also had to then delete.)

IDK if he has issues but the police did say "no suspicious circumstances" which surely means that they saw no evidence of either suicide nor OD.
To be fair, he just linked to a song that was already out there and had been available for anyone to listen to for years.
New tweets are disturbing tho', sounds like he might have got drunk and posted the truth doesn't it. Very sad.
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Old 01-01-2017, 10:52
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To be fair, he just linked to a song that was already out there and had been available for anyone to listen to for years.
New tweets are disturbing tho', sounds like he might have got drunk and posted the truth doesn't it.
He tweeted all that this morning at 9am. So not drunk.
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Old 01-01-2017, 10:53
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To be fair, he just linked to a song that was already out there and had been available for anyone to listen to for years.
New tweets are disturbing tho', sounds like he might have got drunk and posted the truth doesn't it.
Ah - thanks for the correction, i just took another article at face value.

re UL - yes I did wonder that. Can't blame the guy for drinking. Very sad if it's proved to be true.

ETA - cross-post. Ok it was 9am. Don't know what to think. Dreadful for all those close to him.
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Old 01-01-2017, 11:06
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He tweeted all that this morning at 9am. So not drunk.
I'm still drinking at 11am, the time doesn't really matter. He might have been on a week long meltdown for all we know. If it is true I feel sorry for the guy and hope he doesn't do anything stupid himself.

But, yeah could just be some stupid idiot cracker doing it for the lolz.
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Old 01-01-2017, 11:16
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yes, if your partner had suddenly died you'd probably be self-medicating 24hrs a day.

no idea whether any of these rumours are correct and s'pose it'll be settled in a few weeks with inquest/test results anyway.

but here in DMirror is a different source saying that increased loss of lung capacity would have been another loss to add to his burden. No idea whether there's any truth to it.

“It was the third big loss in his life,” said the insider. “He lost his partner Anselmo Feleppa to HIV, his mother Lesley and then the voice he once had.

“To lose your three most cherished things by your early 50s is very hard and was a big load to carry.

“George was an old soul who died young because he found it very hard to manage the albatrosses in his life.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...istmas-9545132

and in another it says that management were aware that George was now doing badly and Kenny Goss came over to support him recently

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...y-goss-9542059

It's better for all his family and partner if it isn't found to be suicide so hopefully this is incorrect.
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Old 01-01-2017, 11:54
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It's better for all his family and partner if it isn't found to be suicide so hopefully this is incorrect.
I doubt a smack overdose would be that much more comforting to be honest.
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Old 01-01-2017, 12:07
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I doubt a smack overdose would be that much more comforting to be honest.
I know what ur saying - it's not great either way.....

One of my b.friend's partner killed himself years ago so having talked to her - it's pretty awful. Their kids are still scarred by it.
and another mate's gay partner hung himself a couple of years ago. So many "if - only's..." and some were simply blind-sided by it others felt they failed him, sort of survivors' guilt..

OTOH I know, indirectly, of addicts/alcoholics who've died, self-inflicted, where family accepts that addicts can't really be helped if they don't want it. They saw it coming over years and knew risk of OD etc was ever-present.
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Old 01-01-2017, 14:49
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yes, if your partner had suddenly died you'd probably be self-medicating 24hrs a day.

no idea whether any of these rumours are correct and s'pose it'll be settled in a few weeks with inquest/test results anyway.

but here in DMirror is a different source saying that increased loss of lung capacity would have been another loss to add to his burden. No idea whether there's any truth to it.



http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...istmas-9545132

and in another it says that management were aware that George was now doing badly and Kenny Goss came over to support him recently

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...y-goss-9542059
Comment from Mirror story:

So disappointed to read that Fadi took the liberty of releasing Yog,s music without the attorney,s and estate first and foremost.
I,ve never believed George was in love or loved Fadi, his heart belonged to Kenny Goss.
The rest that are running to the media are showing their lack of integrity and character.
His true friends were Andrew Ridgeley, David Austin, some of his tour crew, his lovely sisters, father & a few others.

From the story in the Star from link above:
Georges friend added: "he wasn't sure whether Fadi & George were still together at the time of Georges death"...

When asked about the police probe, Fadi said: "I don't know too much"
Asked whether there were signs of drugs next to Georges body, he replied: "No I cant comment on this now".

Fadi,s tweet: Not sure who that nasty close friend of George but I was in a relationship with George Michael till I found him dead in bed.

Another tweet: We loved each other very much and we were together almost 24 hours a day.

The couple were last pictured together in September 2015 according to the Mirror...

I wonder what the extent of George,s relationship really was with Fadi?
The hairdresser seems very keen on letting the world know how much they were in love & how much they were together, but others seem to dispute that.

Why was Kenny Goss called to give the support to George in the weeks leading up to his death, that maybe his "partner" Fadi could have given?

Some pics and videos of George and Fadi together, were taken nearly 5 years ago.
The video of them dancing in a club, that is featured in articles of George,s death was taken in 2012

Fadi seems keen to protect his reputation "I'm a stylist and photographer" he said, in one interview
When asked about if drugs were found next to Georges body his full reply was: "No I cant comment on this now". "I'm alright".

Fadi said in earlier reports that he found George after going to George,s house to wake him up.
In his latest tweet he said "We were together 24 hours a day".
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Old 01-01-2017, 15:10
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It's obvious and simple what has happened.

The rags were reporting that a close friend of George said that he wasn't sure that Fadi was even in a relationship with George recently.

Fadi got wound up and questioned who is this so called friend? and spilled out the truth before either thinking the better of it or others advising him that it wasn't such a good idea, so he deleted his account.

Sadly, imo, what a lot of people were thinking is now known to be true.
Not the best way for it to come out (no pun intended) and Fadi is probably regretting his impulsive reaction.
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Old 01-01-2017, 15:20
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These comments about GM losing/lost his voice were obviously made by people who did not see his performance at the Palais Garnier Opera House in Paris in 2012 to promote his latest album Symphonica
The voice was as good as ever, and the performance

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...uggid=b0401m8s
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Old 01-01-2017, 16:17
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These comments about GM losing/lost his voice were obviously made by people who did not see his performance at the Palais Garnier Opera House in Paris in 2012 to promote his latest album Symphonica
The voice was as good as ever, and the performance

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...uggid=b0401m8s
From what I read, it wasnt the odd song he wouldn't had been able to cope with, but tours.
Apart from his performance at the Palais Garnier 5 years ago, has he done much else since then?
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Old 01-01-2017, 16:23
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He tweeted all that this morning at 9am. So not drunk.
He also told the media how he "suffered" and was "scarred" when his close friend Stephen Gately from Boyzone, was found dead in bed & released a picture of them cuddling together & tweets of how much he missed him.
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Old 01-01-2017, 16:23
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From what I read, it wasnt the odd song he wouldn't had been able to cope with, but tours.
Apart from his performance at the Palais Garnier 5 years ago, has he done much else since then?
Probably recording all those unreleased songs. I doubt it was his voice that was the issue, more likely the obesity why he didn't want to perform in recent years. Apparently he had plans for a comeback which I imagine would be once he lost weight.
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Old 01-01-2017, 16:26
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yes, if your partner had suddenly died you'd probably be self-medicating 24hrs a day.

no idea whether any of these rumours are correct and s'pose it'll be settled in a few weeks with inquest/test results anyway.

but here in DMirror is a different source saying that increased loss of lung capacity would have been another loss to add to his burden. No idea whether there's any truth to it.



http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...istmas-9545132

and in another it says that management were aware that George was now doing badly and Kenny Goss came over to support him recently
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...y-goss-9542059

It's better for all his family and partner if it isn't found to be suicide so hopefully this is incorrect.
Not his partner anymore though allegedly
If he was with him 24/7 where was he xmas eve to xmas dinner time then?
He FOUND him dead when he arrived for lunch
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Old 01-01-2017, 16:27
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He also told the media how he "suffered" and was "scarred" when his close friend Stephen Gately from Boyzone, was found dead in bed & released a picture of them cuddling together & tweets of how much he missed him.
He's very unlucky isn't he?
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Old 01-01-2017, 16:27
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Probably recording all those unreleased songs. I doubt it was his voice that was the issue, more likely the obesity why he didn't want to perform in recent years. Apparently he had plans for a comeback which I imagine would be once he lost weight.
Apparently he had lost 20% of his lung capacity after being hospitalised for a few weeks.
the unreleased songs might have been recorded nearly 20 years ago. Trojan souls was recorded in 1998.
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Old 01-01-2017, 16:34
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Apparently he had lost 20% of his lung capacity after being hospitalised for a few weeks.
Indeed , his repeated pneumonia indicates a significant issue with his lungs long term
And of course we only heard the incidences that were reported
Poor man
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Old 01-01-2017, 16:39
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He's very unlucky isn't he?
He is probably hoping his luck will change with enough publicity...
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Old 01-01-2017, 16:55
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He is probably hoping his luck will change with enough publicity...
Ouch ....but what a lot of people are thinking even after giving him the benefit of the doubt after his 1st tweet
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Old 01-01-2017, 17:03
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All this business about possible fake tweets or hacked twitter account, previous suicide attempts etc is meaningless though it gives the media something to get their teeth into!

The postmortem was 'inconclusive' and further toxiology tests are being carried out and the results won't be known for 'several weeks'. The results may not be to everyones liking but at least it will be conclusive fact.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...e-post-mortem/
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Old 01-01-2017, 17:20
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yes, if your partner had suddenly died you'd probably be self-medicating 24hrs a day.

no idea whether any of these rumours are correct and s'pose it'll be settled in a few weeks with inquest/test results anyway.

but here in DMirror is a different source saying that increased loss of lung capacity would have been another loss to add to his burden. No idea whether there's any truth to it.



http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...istmas-9545132

and in another it says that management were aware that George was now doing badly and Kenny Goss came over to support him recently

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...y-goss-9542059

It's better for all his family and partner if it isn't found to be suicide so hopefully this is incorrect.
I just hope an honest, accurate verdict is come to. If it was an accidental death or an overdose, there is still some potential good to come out of this (raising awareness, etc.). It is important that an honest, accurate verdict is come to rather than one which is just more pleasing to the family.

When celebrities used to overdose and die on barbiturates decades ago, many of the cases were ruled as "accidental overdose" even though people were well aware, at least at some point after a few of the deaths, that the drugs were lethal if you took even just an extra 3 or 4, and yet people/celebrities were being found having taken 10+ and their deaths being recorded as an accidental OD. Maybe it made the family feel better but I don't think the investigation in to deaths should ever be anything but honest and accurate as possible. Otherwise we might never learn about how toxic some drugs are, or how safe some others are, etc. It is important for medicine and science that the investigations are all done properly and unbiased for progress to be made in the future.
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Old 01-01-2017, 18:45
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Look at this shizzle. http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...istmas-9545132

The boyfriend was tweeting about George killing himself, then deleted his account.
You're choosing to disbelieve his account was hacked?

The Star? The font of all truth and knowledge?
The rag media will carry on printing any old crap until the cause of death is known. Then they'll carry on printing any old crap about that.

These comments about GM losing/lost his voice were obviously made by people who did not see his performance at the Palais Garnier Opera House in Paris in 2012 to promote his latest album Symphonica
The voice was as good as ever, and the performance

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...uggid=b0401m8s
Yes, he's sung live perfectly well since 2011.
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