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Old 27-12-2016, 00:46
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Old 27-12-2016, 00:51
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Paul McCartney
Bob Dylan
Stevie Wonder
Neil Young
Aretha Franklin
Mick Jagger
Keith Richards
Joni Mitchell
David Byrne
Bruce Springsteen
Iggy Pop
Diana Ross
Robert Plant
Jimmy Page
David Gilmour
A very subjective list, I would not have anyone listed above in any list I could draw up.
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Old 27-12-2016, 01:06
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I think you have to factor in sales because it's the only way to measure wide broad appeal.

Michael Jackson had the biggest selling album in the world - Thriller. In terms of music icons he's arguably the biggest music icon that's gone this century. I would imagine Paul McCartney is the closest living equivalent given the world wide appeal of the Beatles. Madonna would be the female equivalent.

In terms of UK sales, Cliff Richard would have to be up there too. He is the third best selling artist in UK pop history. Even if you're not a fan of Cliff, he is a pop icon. And let's face it, this is a great pop song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbNP5yqg7hc

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Old 27-12-2016, 01:48
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Cliff Richard yes....it's funny people are so famous they can be forgotten, yet known globally by his first name.
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Old 27-12-2016, 03:31
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Fats Domino is still around on Bluebery Hill at 88 years old.
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Old 27-12-2016, 06:41
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Gilmour but not Waters?
Oh dear, well yes you definitely have a point. But he's a massive pain in the bum
It's what stops me from adding Phil Collins to the list .. and Bono though they undoubtedly deserve to be there but Peter Gabriel should be added for sure.
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Old 27-12-2016, 09:46
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Michael Jackson had the biggest selling album in the world - Thriller
TBH I always thinks of that as being a Quincy Jones creation with MJ doing the vocal stylings (very poor singer at that point in his career) and the name on the front to sell to the punters.
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Old 27-12-2016, 09:49
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A very subjective list, I would not have anyone listed above in any list I could draw up.
It may be subjective but only in the sense that you would be in the minority that would think so
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Old 27-12-2016, 09:56
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I think you have to factor in sales because it's the only way to measure wide broad appeal.
Joni Mitchell could never be regarded as one of the biggest selling artists but she is recognised as one of the most influential artists of all time. Was Chuck Berry one of the biggest selling artists? No but he was a huge influence and therefore can be regarded as an icon.
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Old 27-12-2016, 11:00
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Fats Domino is still around on Bluebery Hill at 88 years old.
Now that surprised me! A guy who's weight helped give him his stage name still heading for 90.
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Old 27-12-2016, 11:07
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A very subjective list, I would not have anyone listed above in any list I could draw up.
Can only ever be subjective (quote - ''by my reckoning...'') given the nature of the question but I would expect to see a lot of those names on a lot of people's lists if I'm being honest.
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Old 27-12-2016, 11:13
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Is Jerry Lee Lewis still alive as i never heard him passed away recently
Yeah he's still going strong at 81 and married wife number 7 as recently as 2012.

I'd include Doris Day and Keeley Smith in that list too.
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Old 27-12-2016, 12:40
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Joni Mitchell is one of the most celebrated and important artists of the 20th century. I will even go as far as to say she’s the most influential female artist of all time. She’s had a profound effect on music, and she has inspired a vast number of artists from many genres of music. Madonna herself has talked about her admiration for Joni’s music. Blue and Court & Spark are considered benchmark recordings and are still routinely discussed and referenced today. She’s a formidable talent, and it will be a great loss when she goes. Sales aren’t the be-all and end-all. Joni's Blue has only sold an estimated five million copies worldwide but has had a bigger and more valuable effect on other artists and their work than any album released by Madonna.

Madonna’s death will make a bigger splash in the media. She’s always been a celebrity as much as she is a performer. Her influence is a superficial one. It’s very rare for credible and respected artists to reference Madonna’s work as a source of inspiration. It’s mostly manufactured pop singers of varying degrees of talent who talk about Madonna and they always seem to talk about her longevity and reinvention more than her music. Even Joni Mitchell said Madonna marks the turning point when Americans started to become dumb. Paul McCartney has also been less than complimentary in the past. She’s the precursor to all of these mildly talented female singers who rely on writers and producers as well as their looks and sexuality. She has inspired Katy Perry and Britney Spears while Joni has inspired Kate Bush and Prince. I admire Madonna for going out and forging a successful career for herself, but she’s still an overrated, reductive, thin-voiced, delusional narcissist who wouldn’t have a career without a good team behind her. Even George Michael wrote and produced most of his material by himself. He admired Joni's music a lot.

A very subjective list, I would not have anyone listed above in any list I could draw up.
Subjective? You obviously need to educate yourself.

TBH I always thinks of that as being a Quincy Jones creation with MJ doing the vocal stylings (very poor singer at that point in his career) and the name on the front to sell to the punters.
Michael Jackson wrote the lyrics to the hit singles Beat It, The Girl Is Mine, Billie Jean and Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'. He also co-produced them.
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Old 27-12-2016, 13:22
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Thinking of tons of others now. The problem is you start off with Dylan and McCartney and before long you are remembering Paul Simon, Brian Wilson and wondering which Kinks, Byrds, Animals, etc are still alive. Then there's always ones you forget from even further back (Doris Day, Little Richard, Tony Bennett) and you've not even touched punk, soul (much), rap or disco. Never mind John Williams and all the movie soundtracks or a million other areas. Then there's a ton of huge-selling bands like Abba, ELO, ACDC.......and on and on and on through every decade.

It's difficult to draw a line between the ''would be agreed by anyone with any knowledge of music to be a musical icon like Dylan'' and the many many others who could be seen in the same light by some depending on their tastes. And it's impossible not to bend such a list towards your own tastes somewhat. That's only natural. The closest you could get to objectivity would be to ask a thousand 'experts' (however you want to decide that but to judge such a thing you'd need to have heard a wide range of music I suppose) and have a giant blackboard where everyone names suggestions, then have them all compile individual lists, then amalgamate the lot and see which names get the most votes. And there would be a lot of checking about who is still alive because some of those names are surprising.
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Old 27-12-2016, 13:25
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Britney seems safe for now.

I am wondering about either Elton or (strangely) Eminem.
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Old 27-12-2016, 15:59
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What a stupid thread
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Old 27-12-2016, 16:35
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Tina Turner.
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Old 27-12-2016, 18:48
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Blimey.

The Watership Down writer was the main story on the BBC for just a few minutes until Carrie Fisher
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Old 27-12-2016, 19:36
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Old 27-12-2016, 22:07
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Yeah he's still going strong at 81 and married wife number 7 as recently as 2012.

I'd include Doris Day and Keeley Smith in that list too.
Is Little Richard still around as he and Chuck Berry are about the same age
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Old 27-12-2016, 22:23
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I'm not sorry to say that I find this thread to be in very bad taste.
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Old 27-12-2016, 23:09
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Sade
Diana Ross
Janet Jackson
Annie Lennox
Madonna
Mick Jagger
Paul McCartney
Sting
Phil Collins
Aretha Franklin
Dionne Warwick
Stevie Wonder
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Old 28-12-2016, 00:05
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Little Richard
Brian Wilson
Don Everly

Still some legends standing
Fats Domino is still alive incredibly, as is Jerry Lee Lewis.

Pop icon Chuck Berry is still alive too!

We forget these 50s icons are still alive.
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Old 28-12-2016, 01:44
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Fats Domino is still alive incredibly, as is Jerry Lee Lewis.

Pop icon Chuck Berry is still alive too!

We forget these 50s icons are still alive.
It seems that more icons from the fifties are still alive than the icons from the from sixties

Maybe the icons from fifties hardly took any drugs. And the during the sixties they were so many types of drugs to choose from. So more celebrities took them which meant more would pass away later in life
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