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Bit hard if you're disabled.
I've worked with many. A disability doesnt necessarily stop people making a contribution and earning a salary Frank Williams is one example. Stephen Hawkins is another |
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Extortionate fees to the nonsense that is the EU, sorry couldn't resist
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The BBC has an extraordinary number of highly paid executives as well as performers on contract.
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There are plenty of highly paid disabled people.
I've worked with many. A disability doesnt necessarily stop people making a contribution and earning a salary Frank Williams is one example. Stephen Hawkins is another |
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Depending on the nature and severity of disability people can be incapable of paid employment or effectively incapable of paid employment. For such people more than just welfare in a emergency is needed. They need income replacement for life and funding for their care needs.
If we stoped doling out money to wasters, there would be more available to support those genuinely in need. |
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There are plenty of highly paid disabled people.
I've worked with many. A disability doesnt necessarily stop people making a contribution and earning a salary Frank Williams is one example. Stephen Hawkins is another Hawkins gets a lot of help which he pays for, how many disabled people can do that? |
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If people didn't have to pay the TV tax they would use the money saved to buy other things and pay VAT on those things and that money would go to the exchequer.
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There are plenty of highly paid disabled people.
I've worked with many. A disability doesnt necessarily stop people making a contribution and earning a salary |
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You think every disabied person can work?
But I do think that there are many able bodied people who should not be receiving benefits I agree with an earlier poster. All benefits should be means tested Middle class welfare is a complete waste of money. |
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No, I dont think that
But I do think that there are many able bodied people who should not be receiving benefits I agree with an earlier poster. All benefits should be means tested Middle class welfare is a complete waste of money. |
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Defence procurement is a biggie.
Whether it's on things we don't really need such as the qe carriers or things that are monetary black holes the new f35. Items not fit for purpose such as the new destroyers or lynx helicopters. |
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Not really, because means testing costs money, whereas universal benefits are relatively cheap to administer.
The admin cost of HMRC administered tax credits system is only 3% of Tax credits expenditure. |
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Not really, because means testing costs money, whereas universal benefits are relatively cheap to administer.
Most worthwhile things do cost money But we need to get away for the idea that the world owes us a living People need to take responsibility for their own lives This dependency by so many on state handouts is toxic. |
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Extortionate fees to the nonsense that is the EU, sorry couldn't resist
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Extortionate fees to the nonsense that is the EU, sorry couldn't resist
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Of course means testing costs money
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But we need to get away for the idea that the world owes us a living I'm not sure the problem is as huge as you seem to think. Do most people really think that "the world owes us a living" and don't take responsibility for their own lives?
People need to take responsibility for their own lives This dependency by so many on state handouts is toxic. |
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Public sector workers should not be paid "sick pay". If they don't work, they don't eat.
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Yes, agreed. Supporting a failing, out of date vanity project.
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By the sound of it, you would be well placed running a Victorian work-house. You depend on public-sector workers yet revile them. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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Of course means testing costs money
Most worthwhile things do cost money But we need to get away for the idea that the world owes us a living People need to take responsibility for their own lives This dependency by so many on state handouts is toxic. Low wages get topped up by tax credits. |
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Bit hard if you're disabled.
..... I say this as someone with a visual impairment and simply note that only 25-30% of blind or partially sighted people of working age are in employment, not helped by less that 10% of employers saying they would ever consider employing such people |
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Not really, because means testing costs money, whereas universal benefits are relatively cheap to administer.
The easiest way to retain a means tested benefit is to spend any money you get |
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I used to work for a company supplying products to Coeliacs and the Free from Market viw the Supermarkets
Some of these products are available on prescription, which involves at least 2 or 3 "middlemen" before they get to the consumer. These middlemen jack the cost up to extortionate costs to the NHS This leads to headlines in the Daily Mail of "Gluten free bread costs £25 per loaf". This threatens Coeliacs getting the products they need to live. Simply, if instead of writing prescriptions which have to be redeemed at pharmacies, they gave GP's vouchers for supermarkets which could ONLY be used for free-from products, the UK would save a huge amount of money. The Coeliacs would also be able to get what they need at much reduced cost to the taxpayer. But things like that are obvious and simple and apply all over the UK in state run organisations. The Civil servants and Unions, scream "Privatisation" !! Where most of us would say : "Common sense" The problem is things in the UK are still run by "those in charge" My son did a sport which was based at a local venue. The photographer at the local venue was an old guy who was dreadful - all his pictures were out of focus and underexposed (dark). My Wife refused to buy any of the ones of our son - she was the only one who didn't buy - despite the pictures being complete rubbish. People in the UK "do what they always do" even if it is expensive and poor quality - they also object to ANYONE pointing this out. |
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Most goes to in work benefits.
Low wages get topped up by tax credits. |
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Of course means testing costs money
Most worthwhile things do cost money But we need to get away for the idea that the world owes us a living People need to take responsibility for their own lives This dependency by so many on state handouts is toxic. The government take tax off of people and companies and it is not unreasonable to expect certain things in return such as welfare, Heath and education. |
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