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Old 26-12-2016, 10:29
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A massive public outpouring of grief when a person you don't know and you've never met dies? For example a celebrity.
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Old 26-12-2016, 10:38
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Because they are idols in the public figure. People don't grieve as much but the grief is widespread, also because they didn't know them on a personal level they don't mind taking to social media to express their feelings whereas death of close family is a personal issue, so therefore the death of a celebrity seems more in your face.
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Old 26-12-2016, 10:39
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Their death brings back memories of good times, bad times, easy times and hard times.
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Old 26-12-2016, 10:43
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Because people are capable of human emotion and don't see empathy as a dirty word ?
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Old 26-12-2016, 10:44
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I think the term celebrity is almost an insult in some cases, especially with extremely talented creative individuals who've given the world something special in the form of songs, literature, films etc that have brought enjoyment to millions. It's natural to feel sad when people who've given us so many good memories pass away.
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Old 26-12-2016, 10:45
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Why is it that when something happens, something that brings people together, there's always one attention seeker who plays dumb and asks really obvious questions? Inevitably all the focus turns on them as people fall into the trap of trying to answer something that's obvious to all.
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Old 26-12-2016, 10:47
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Are you just jel because you didn't win the caring competition?
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Old 26-12-2016, 10:50
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Why is it that when something happens, something that brings people together, there's always one attention seeker who plays dumb and asks really obvious questions? Inevitably all the focus turns on them as people fall into the trap of trying to answer something that's obvious to all.
Yes, perfectly put.
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Old 26-12-2016, 10:51
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Why is it that when something happens, something that brings people together, there's always one attention seeker who plays dumb and asks really obvious questions? Inevitably all the focus turns on them as people fall into the trap of trying to answer something that's obvious to all.
It really doesn't bother me someone i don't know dying!
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Old 26-12-2016, 11:04
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It really doesn't bother me someone i don't kniw dying!

Some people are not like you. A shock, I know.
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Old 26-12-2016, 11:10
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In the good ole' days of ''the wireless'', a radio celeb dying was almost 'like somebody in your own family''. Nowadays, with fanzines and fansites, etc, we know more about celebs than some of our own friends and family ........
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Old 26-12-2016, 11:16
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If you grew up listening or watching a famous person you are obviously going to pay your respects and be a little bit sadden.

I wasn't a fan of George Michael and I didn't listen to his music or followed what he did, so this isn't affecting me like some people, but I grew up with common decency and understand why people want to pay their respects and feel upset about their idols passing.
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Old 26-12-2016, 11:53
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A massive public outpouring of grief when a person you don't know and you've never met dies? For example a celebrity.
The million dollar question PyRo, it's sad when anyone dies, no matter who they are, but I remember going past Kensington Palace when Lady Diana died.
I didn't, and still don't, get it, scores of ordinary looking people, many with young children imitating them, stood, or knelt by the railings, faces glistening with tears, a lot with the 1000 yard stare, practically banging their heads on the railings, murmuring words of anguish about "their English rose."
I kept waiting to see if they'd burst into Ashura, the self flagellating muslim festival, where men whip their chests and backs with chains to draw blood.
You could almost think that they were mourning the loss of a first born, or a parent, instead of an attractive, photogenic young woman who had sleep walked into marriage into the Royal Family, and been pictured comforting children, and aids sufferers in hospital, and had added her persona to a mine clearing project in Africa.
People's Princess? Gimme a break, she was a not very intelligent young woman who had lucked in to a lifetime of lazing on the sundeck of million dollar yachts, flying everywhere first class, wearing designer clothes and jewellery.
She deserved it, having to suffer that jerk and his family in order to breed a couple of contenders for the throne, but God only knows why ordinary people were in despair when she died, and going off on a tangent, I don't believe that Henri Paul was intoxicated and the instrument of her death.

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Old 26-12-2016, 12:14
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It really doesn't bother me someone i don't know dying!
It doesn't for me usually, unless I'm a big fan. I was upset when John Peel Died, as I spent so much time listening to him. I was also pretty sad when Ali and Wogan died. I'll be very upset when Attenborough dies, even though Ive never met him.
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Old 26-12-2016, 12:16
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The million dollar question PyRo, it's sad when anyone dies, no matter who they are, but I remember going past Kensington Palace when Lady Diana died.
I didn't, and still don't, get it, scores of ordinary looking people, many with young children imitating them, stood, or knelt by the railings, faces glistening with tears, a lot with the 1000 yard stare, practically banging their heads on the railings, murmuring words of anguish about "their English rose."
I kept waiting to see if they'd burst into Ashura, the self flagellating muslim festival, where men whip their chests and backs with chains to draw blood.
You could almost think that they were mourning the loss of a first born, or a parent, instead of an attractive, photogenic young woman who had sleep walked into marriage into the Royal Family, and been pictured comforting children, and aids sufferers in hospital, and had added her persona to a mine clearing project in Africa.
People's Princess? Gimme a break, she was a not very intelligent young woman who had lucked in to a lifetime of lazing on the sundeck of million dollar yachts, flying everywhere first class, wearing designer clothes and jewellery.
She deserved it, having to suffer that jerk and his family in order to breed a couple of contenders for the throne, but God only knows why ordinary people were in despair when she died, and going off on a tangent, I don't believe that Henri Paul was intoxicated and the instrument of her death.
Clearly you don't particularly like her, so it's obvious you wouldn't be upset. However, as it's been said, people think differently and she was incredibly popular, even if you don't get why.
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Old 26-12-2016, 12:20
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It doesn't for me usually, unless I'm a big fan. I was upset when John Peel Died, as I spent so much time listening to him. I was also pretty sad when Ali and Wogan died. I'll be very upset when Attenborough dies, even though Ive never met him.
I was and still am upset about Robin Williams passing, I grew up watching him and he always made me laugh. You don't have to meet a person to feel sad when they die, it's the memory you have when you spend your life listening or watching that person.
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Old 26-12-2016, 12:22
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I've often wondered myself, but then... I was pretty gutted when Rik Mayall buggered off... so it matters if it's somebody you're a fan of. Anyway, whichever way you dice it... somebody sodding off unexpectedly before their time... it's shocking... and will always get a response.

I was and still am upset about Robin Williams passing, I grew up watching him and he always made me laugh. You don't have to meet a person to feel sad when they die, it's the memory you have when you spend your life listening or watching that person.
Aye, we've not long since watched the Mork & Mindy boxset, still weird to think he's gone.
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Old 26-12-2016, 12:25
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I don't see a particular need for public grief. However, I don't think it's weird to feel sad or even cry. After all, we think it's OK to cry when a fictional character dies in a film, so what's wrong with crying about a real person even if you don't know them personally?
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Old 26-12-2016, 12:25
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Even before I clicked on it, I knew this thread was going to be related to George.

Why some people have to criticise people for caring is beyond me.
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Old 26-12-2016, 12:48
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One-sided so-called 'parasocial' relationships are based on authentic, fundamental human emotions such as empathy and attraction.

What's vital to understand and acknowledge is that the publicity machines and mass media supporting celebrities actively encourage such feelings. That's a big part of what motivates us to consume their music, films etc.
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Old 26-12-2016, 13:10
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Even before I clicked on it, I knew this thread was going to be related to George.

Why some people have to criticise people for caring is beyond me.
It isn't about George Micheal solely. It's about ALL celebrities and public outcries of grief!
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Old 26-12-2016, 13:13
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My ex was deeply upset at Diana's death. Strange because she hadn't particularly followed her.

Mind you I was sad too.

She 'suggested' we went to Kensington Palace and lay a bunch of flowers, taking our 4 month old daughter and buggy too.

I tried suggesting we just watch it on the telly, but she was adamant that the suggestion was mandatory.

So we traipsed by train and Tube, buggy, wet-wipes, rattle, Pampers and bottles of Formula to Kensington Palace.

Complete waste of time and expense. But I kept my mouth shut and tried to make the best of a day up West and be supportive.
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Old 26-12-2016, 13:43
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It isn't about George Micheal solely. It's about ALL celebrities and public outcries of grief!
I know what you meant, that is why I said related.

That's fine if you don't give a flying rat's arse, but don't criticise people for having a heart and caring about someone that's touched their lives in one way or another.
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Old 26-12-2016, 13:47
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It isn't about George Micheal solely. It's about ALL celebrities and public outcries of grief!
People have feelings for artists that bring joy into their lives. Sometimes, music helps people through difficult times.

If this has never happened to you, you will never understand, but trust me, it's real.
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Old 26-12-2016, 20:39
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Clearly you don't particularly like her, so it's obvious you wouldn't be upset. However, as it's been said, people think differently and she was incredibly popular, even if you don't get why.
Actually P.I., I DIDN'T dislike her, the fact that she existed meant very little to me.
I felt sympathy for her brother and sons when she died.
She was obviously popular, but you're right, I didn't get why people felt suicidal when she died.

I don't see a particular need for public grief. However, I don't think it's weird to feel sad or even cry. After all, we think it's OK to cry when a fictional character dies in a film, so what's wrong with crying about a real person even if you don't know them personally?
Probably nothing, but not to the degree that was displayed when Diana died.

My ex was deeply upset at Diana's death. Strange because she hadn't particularly followed her.

Mind you I was sad too.

She 'suggested' we went to Kensington Palace and lay a bunch of flowers, taking our 4 month old daughter and buggy too.

I tried suggesting we just watch it on the telly, but she was adamant that the suggestion was mandatory.

So we traipsed by train and Tube, buggy, wet-wipes, rattle, Pampers and bottles of Formula to Kensington Palace.

Complete waste of time and expense. But I kept my mouth shut and tried to make the best of a day up West and be supportive.
You are to be commended Robin, you're obviously a nice guy.

I know what you meant, that is why I said related.

That's fine if you don't give a flying rat's arse, but don't criticise people for having a heart and caring about someone that's touched their lives in one way or another.
As I've tried to explain charlie, it's not a case of not giving a rat's arse, I'm just at a loss to understand how she touched all those people's lives, to the extent that they were on their knees, wringing their hands in anguish.
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