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Brexit opinion surveys show huge swing to Remain in UK regions that voted Leave |
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Hang on. Wasn't there a poll discussed last week on DS which showed the Brexit vote was holding up well despite all the doom and gloom peddled by the Remainer camp? Under the title of fifty something percent would still vote to leave, or something like that.
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Pretty sure it was Theresa May who said that, and she doesn't have a clue.
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Not worth thinking about; we're leaving. No matter what.
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Hang on. Wasn't there a poll discussed last week on DS which showed the Brexit vote was holding up well despite all the doom and gloom peddled by the Remainer camp? Under the title of fifty something percent would still vote to leave, or something like that.
So if leave is now ahead on that pollster then leave must now be nearly 10 per cent ahead in the real world - assuming that pollster is as wrong now as it was then. But it's only a poll - we had the only vote that counts on 23 June. We don't tell every government that moves to second in the polls that it should Resign immediately and call a general election. |
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Not worth thinking about; we're leaving. No matter what.
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Why does the EU feel the need to control which passport I have? I thought it was supposed to be all about 'trade' ? They have taken away so many of our freedoms.
In the case of the passport, Thatcher's Government, in 1988. |
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It 's about trade and free movement. What freedoms have we lost? I can't think of any.
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They didn't 'take' anything. Our Government gave them away willingly. Never forget that.
In the case of the passport, Thatcher's Government, in 1988. |
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well I was banned at the time and it is Christmas so I will indulge: Quote:
Sunderland Echo poll shows u-turn on Brexit 10 December 2016 Echo readers have performed a stunning U-turn on the Brexit vote - with the majority of those voting in our poll saying if they had the chance again they would now want to stay in the European Union. All seems to confirm the OP really : general trend towards Remain in full swing. |
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It is for our government to give us our rights and freedoms. Not the EU. So much has been taken by stealth although I accept the 'EU 4 Ever' mob cannot see it.
So if you feel that these have been removed, hold the UK Government to account. Not the EU. They have nothing to do with it. Any blame lies with Messrs Heath, Wilson, Callaghan, Thatcher, Major, Blair, Brown, Cameron and May. |
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well I was banned at the time and it is Christmas so I will indulge:
http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/p...exit-1-8282851 All seems to confirm the OP really : general trend towards Remain in full swing. |
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This is just Remoaners clutching at straws.
I've not met anybody who's changed their minds and most people who went with Remain are ready for Brexit. We had a vote and they lost. What do they want? Another vote to settle the previous one. Its just shown to me what a bad bunch of losers the UK really are. Cannot get their way so act like toddlers looking for anything to try and stop democracy. I know if we had voted Remain I would have not been happy but I would have accepted it. Although I do admit a lot of Brexiters like Farage and people on this forum would not have accepted the result. Like the SNP |
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Tough. If they now think they're going to lose out, they're just going to have to take the medicine. Sunderland should consider itself fortunate; the Government so far have been willing to bribe Renault. It remains to be seen whether other areas are as fortunate.
it seems that the people of Sunderland have realised that: 1) staying in the Single Market or not is not in the Government''s powers to decide 2) subsidies , if given, would be needed for ever, by definition 3) see under 'British Leyland' |
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All I want to know is when I can get my proper British passport back instead of the 'papers' issued by Germany via the EU.
Old blues were easy to forge. EU standardised passports are much more secure than the old UK ones. |
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As someone who used to work in the Passport Office, I have to ask what on earth are you talking about? The UK government issues passports, not the EU.
Old blues were easy to forge. EU standardised passports are much more secure than the old UK ones. |
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the only thing the Government can guarantee is subsidies (at taxpayers' expense) should the Single Marker no longer be accessible.
it seems that the people of Sunderland have realised that: 1) staying in the Single Market or not is not in the Government''s powers to decide 2) subsidies , if given, would be needed for ever, by definition 3) see under 'British Leyland' The fact that they didn't has merely condemned them to a lost generation of recriminations when the inevitable happens, Renault has one of its periodical crises (and it'll happen, because the management at Renault is bloody incompetent) and decides to take the easy option of closing the non-EU factory. It's too late now to reverse the situation. They'll just have to grin and bear it. |
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As someone who used to work in the Passport Office, I have to ask what on earth are you talking about? The UK government issues passports, not the EU.
Old blues were easy to forge. EU standardised passports are much more secure than the old UK ones. Maybe you could combine modern technology with a blue coloured passport - the USA uses blue and they have far more effective borders than the EU! |
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well I was banned at the time and it is Christmas so I will indulge:
http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/p...exit-1-8282851 All seems to confirm the OP really : general trend towards Remain in full swing. A nonsense online 'survey' where anyone from anywhere, calling themselves anything could claim to be a Sunderland voter. What's that thing Remainers keep parroting? Oh yes, "post-truth". |
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I don;t disagree, but ultimately if this is a problem for the good folk of Sunderland they really should have thought of this before the referendum.
The fact that they didn't has merely condemned them to a lost generation of recriminations when the inevitable happens, Renault has one of its periodical crises (and it'll happen, because the management at Renault is bloody incompetent) and decides to take the easy option of closing the non-EU factory. It's too late now to reverse the situation. They'll just have to grin and bear it. |
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Surprise (not), you too. It's a rubbish online "survey".
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Why does the EU feel the need to control which passport I have? I thought it was supposed to be all about 'trade' ? They have taken away so many of our freedoms.
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It's the Leave voters who are taking away our freedom by preventing us to travel around Europe easily and to be able to work there without restrictions.
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Surprise (not), you too. It's a rubbish online "survey".
There are 2 ways you can do a survey: 1- carefully constructing your cohort, and guaranteeing the accuracy of the outcome on the voting intentions that way 2- online self-selection, and accepting that there will be some noise (eg inelegible voters going one way or the other) and - crucially - also accepting that in theory, by the law of Large Numbers, the noise should cancel out: eg an inelegible voter clicking Remain vs another one clicking 'Leave'. |
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Oh dear.
A nonsense online 'survey' where anyone from anywhere, calling themselves anything could claim to be a Sunderland voter. What's that thing Remainers keep parroting? Oh yes, "post-truth". |
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