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Old 26-12-2016, 15:02
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Liar Kuenssberg nicknamed Tory Kuensssberg and her BS "sources" again.

BBC's very own Kay Burley.

Weren't we told at the time that "the source" was Michael Gove?
Kay Birley works for Sky.
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Old 26-12-2016, 15:06
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Kay Birley works for Sky.
He means Laura is the BBC equivalent to Sky's Kay
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Old 26-12-2016, 15:12
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He means Laura is the BBC equivalent to Sky's Kay
I see. They should have stuck to Nick Robinson.
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Old 26-12-2016, 15:43
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Looks like some people got this for Christmas
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Old 26-12-2016, 15:51
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Anything that makes a claim for an unnamed "source" should be ringing alarm bells in your head. We don't know which way the Queen thinks about the referendum and anything beyond that is pure speculation at best.
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Old 26-12-2016, 15:58
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This report means nothing. It's very possible that this source is the same person who fed Gove the story that he then gave to the Sun. .
And that was kind of the point Laura was making this morning. She had a single source tell her, she couldn't find a second source - so dropped the story as unreliable.

Only reason it came up at all today was she was being asked for her moment of the year before her mastermind round - and the obvious ones had already been taken by other contestants - so she quoted hearing that story for the first time
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Old 26-12-2016, 16:03
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And that was kind of the point Laura was making this morning. She had a single source tell her, she couldn't find a second source - so dropped the story as unreliable.

Only reason it came up at all today was she was being asked for her moment of the year before her mastermind round - and the obvious ones had already been taken by other contestants - so she quoted hearing that story for the first time
And the Queen of course is in no position to contradict her as she is not supposed to have a position on Brexit.
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Old 26-12-2016, 16:10
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And the Queen of course is in no position to contradict her as she is not supposed to have a position on Brexit.
The alleged quote from the Queen is “‘I don’t see why we can’t just get out. What’s the problem?’. On its own that's not really a position, it's a fairly reasonable statement. Even if you're a Remain supporter you might wonder why we can't "just get out", if we're all going to be so much better off by doing so.
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Old 26-12-2016, 16:11
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Given her age and her strong support of the Commonwealth I would suggest it is statistically likely she wasn't too disappointed at the result on 23 June.
How many Commonwealth countries were urging us to vote Leave?
I thought the ones that said anything at all were encouraging remain.
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Old 26-12-2016, 16:17
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She backs Brexit but Hard Brexit.
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Old 26-12-2016, 16:24
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She backs Brexit but Hard Brexit.
You don't know what she supports.
That's kinda the point of her.
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Old 26-12-2016, 16:53
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How many Commonwealth countries were urging us to vote Leave?
I thought the ones that said anything at all were encouraging remain.
How many over 65s backed remain? Us being in the EU has diminished our historic ties with the Commonwealth.

I for one would much rather we had freedom of movement with Canada, Singapore and Australia than Slovakia and Lithuania!
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Old 26-12-2016, 17:26
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How many over 65s backed remain? Us being in the EU has diminished our historic ties with the Commonwealth.

I for one would much rather we had freedom of movement with Canada, Singapore and Australia than Slovakia and Lithuania!
Why would you rather have freedom of movement with Pakistan, Nigeria, and Sierra Leone than Ireland, Germany and Denmark?
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Old 26-12-2016, 17:37
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Yep up there with the real greats like Sir Jimmy Saville.
You are a stain on humanity with a comment like this, beneath contempt.
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Old 26-12-2016, 18:07
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Given her age and her strong support of the Commonwealth I would suggest it is statistically likely she wasn't too disappointed at the result on 23 June.

But the great thing is we don't know and never will. Maybr her son needs to take some lessons in how a monarch should behave - totally above politics so everyone can unite behind the head of state.
Unlike the average Brexshitter, she has actually travelled the world and experienced how things are in other countries and in other cultures.

Unlike the average Brexshitter, she actually lived through WW2 and potentially sees the point of having a united Europe.

She also wants what's best for the country. Brexit is fundamentally incompatible with that.
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Old 26-12-2016, 18:25
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Unlike the average Brexshitter, she actually lived through WW2 and potentially sees the point of having a united Europe.
I thought Brexiters were more likely to be old pensioners?
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Old 26-12-2016, 18:29
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But the great thing is we don't know and never will. Maybr her son needs to take some lessons in how a monarch should behave - totally above politics so everyone can unite behind the head of state.
Could you expand on this?

We, the electorate, should unite behind the head of state, yet we should be kept in ignorance of the views of that head of state,
is that what you are saying?

I believe you voted in favour of leaving the European Union, and are somewhat jubilant that your 'side' marginally won the poll;
an argument put to the electorate by that side was that 'we' should regain our 'sovereignty' and 'make our own laws' again.

Now you seem to want to give unaccountable power to a despot.
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Old 26-12-2016, 18:39
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You are a stain on humanity with a comment like this, beneath contempt.
Oh the irony.
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Old 26-12-2016, 18:44
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Unlike the average Brexshitter, she has actually travelled the world and experienced how things are in other countries and in other cultures.

Unlike the average Brexshitter, she actually lived through WW2 and potentially sees the point of having a united Europe.

She also wants what's best for the country. Brexit is fundamentally incompatible with that.
I'd be rather sceptical of the idea that the Queen is a Brexiter. She has been to nearly every country in Europe, on numerous occasions too and is a fluent French speaker. She doesn't exactly fit the bill of an angry OAP in some northern English town who has never been anywhere outside Britain but the Costa del Sol.
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Old 26-12-2016, 18:55
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You are a stain on humanity with a comment like this, beneath contempt.
Surely the stain on humanity is the paedophile that was given a knighthood.
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Old 26-12-2016, 20:09
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I'd be sceptical enough about the idea of the Queen being a Europhobe who wanted the UK out of the EU. It's well known she is a fluent French speaker and is well versed in the culture of Europe. I could buy a curmudgeon like Philip favouring Brexit but I would have thought the Queen less likely. Interesting too that her son Charles denounced the rise of populism and the far right in a speech this week.
I'd be rather sceptical of the idea that the Queen is a Brexiter. She has been to nearly every country in Europe, on numerous occasions too and is a fluent French speaker. She doesn't exactly fit the bill of an angry OAP in some northern English town who has never been anywhere outside Britain but the Costa del Sol.
I hate to mention it but you are aware that Europe is not the same as the EU? A lot of people seem to have that problem. One's a continent with a lot of lovely countries that most people find attractive in some way or other in and the other's a political union. They're quite separate.
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Old 28-12-2016, 17:15
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I'm surprised as the House of Windsor are German in origin so would've thought the Queen would be in favour of the EU. She also supposedly speaks fluent French, and is apparently the Duke of Normandy in a throwback to the claim of English monarchs from William the Conqueror for the Channel Islands being in the British crown.
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Old 28-12-2016, 17:21
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Good for her.
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Old 28-12-2016, 18:29
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I hate to mention it but you are aware that Europe is not the same as the EU? A lot of people seem to have that problem. One's a continent with a lot of lovely countries that most people find attractive in some way or other in and the other's a political union. They're quite separate.
For sure, but Her Majesty simply doesn't fit the bill of someone who would want out of the EU. She's a traditionalist but she doesn't come across at all as a right wing conservative or a nationalist (witness the great gestures she made on her visit to Ireland for example and meeting Martin McGuinness a few times). She seems a progressive and open minded woman. Now if someone told me Prince Philip was a Brexiter, I could well believe it : he's more of a cranky curmudgeon type who doesn't much like modernity and seems very set in his ways.
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