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Old 27-12-2016, 01:48
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At the moment, yes, but you can never say never. Fifty years ago, there would have been uproar at shops opening on a Sunday, now, most do. Geez, I thought I was stubborn. Merry Christmas.
The point that you missed:

...I worry within my working life we will see shops open on Christmas Day.
Merry Christmas.
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Old 27-12-2016, 01:51
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Trying to compare an ordinary Sunday with Christmas Day is ridiculous.

In any case, the legislation to make Christmas Day opening illegal was only enacted in 2004 (2007 in Scotland). So if anything, the trend is towards keeping shops closed on Christmas Day rather than the other way round.
Can you just admit, you can never say never? Or is that too much to ask?
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Old 27-12-2016, 01:53
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The point that you missed:



Merry Christmas.
I've not missed any points. I never responded to the poster you refer to. So you're being misleading. I was responding to Mark who stubbornly insists that we'll never have Christmas Day opening of shops ever. Even in 1000 years.
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Old 27-12-2016, 02:10
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I've not missed any points. I never responded to the poster you refer to. So you're being misleading. I was responding to Mark who stubbornly insists that we'll never have Christmas Day opening of shops ever. Even in 1000 years.
In the context of the thread 'never' was surely meant as 'never within bluesdiamond's working life', however long that is. The problem with referring to a single post which was itself directed at someone else is that you end up talking at cross-purposes. I don't think the other FM was being stubborn, if you read the exchange in context. You're the first to mention 1000 years!

[Edit] ..I just checked. You're the only one talking about 'never' and 'ever'.
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Old 27-12-2016, 02:15
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In the context of the thread 'never' was surely meant as 'never within bluesdiamond's working life', however long that is. The problem with referring to a single post which was itself directed at someone else is that you end up talking at cross-purposes. I don't think the other FM was being stubborn, if you read the exchange in context. You're the first to mention 1000 years!
He's insisted it will never happen. Read his posts. I am disagreeing with this and saying as much as I disagree with it, it's very likely to happen. Perhaps not in a year or two, but probably in the next 10-20 years. No doubt, I'll be slapped down by Mark for having this opinion
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Old 27-12-2016, 02:19
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He's insisted it will never happen. Read his posts.
Did I?

I think it's you who needs to read my posts.

I am disagreeing with this and saying as much as I disagree with it, it's very likely to happen
Based on zero evidence. Whereas the legislation to make Christmas Day opening illegal for most shops was only enacted 12 or 9 years ago, depending on the part of the United Kingdom you live.
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Old 27-12-2016, 02:21
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He's insisted it will never happen. Read his posts. I am disagreeing with this and saying as much as I disagree with it, it's very likely to happen. Perhaps not in a year or two, but probably in the next 10-20 years. No doubt, I'll be slapped down by Mark for having this opinion
I did read them, and I have since re-read them. You are mistaken.

...I worry within my working life we will see shops open on Christmas Day.
It won't happen.
Followed by your reductio ad absurdum, and accusation of stubbornness.
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Old 27-12-2016, 02:37
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I did read them, and I have since re-read them. You are mistaken.





Followed by your reductio ad absurdum, and accusation of stubbornness.
This is getting tiresome. Are you his brother or something? He clearly said: "It won't happen" that to me, infers never. No matter how much I insist that at some point in the future, it probably will, he insists it won't. Again, that to me reads he's discounting it ever happening. If that's not being stubborn, I don't know what is?
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Old 27-12-2016, 02:41
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It's called talking at cross-purposes.
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Old 27-12-2016, 02:42
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It's called talking at cross-purposes.
You're not comprehending what I'm saying. It's also being stubborn to say it won't happen.
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Old 27-12-2016, 02:44
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What gets me is the people who think Boxing Day would be a great day to go and buy a sofa or other such nonsense. As far as I'm concerned nothing productive is to be done between 24th and 27th December
I know somebody who woke her kids up ( an 8 year old and a baby ) at 3am just so they could take advantage of the sales on Boxing Day. That is just cruel, let them sleep.
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Old 27-12-2016, 02:45
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You're not comprehending what I'm saying. It's also being stubborn to say it won't happen.
Look, I get what you are saying. I can see why you've become confused. I'm not having a go at you, only trying to point out the source of your frustration.

No, I'm not his brother.

[Edit] As for the bit in bold, that seems like a pretty safe bet given the timescale. Obviously nobody is trying to argue that ten billion years hence you still won't be allowed to open on a sunday.
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Old 27-12-2016, 03:01
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I think Christmas is still a week long event for most people, with the final blow out on new years eve. The in between days are spent visiting the family, playing with new toys, getting drunk, watching xmas specials on tv, and just chilling out.

It does however seem less people leave their decs up till the 12th night these days with most opting for January 1st or 2nd. Back in the 80's it was unheard of for anyone to take them down earlier. Then again it was unheard of for anyone to put them up in November.
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Old 27-12-2016, 03:02
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I know somebody who woke her kids up ( an 8 year old and a baby ) at 3am just so they could take advantage of the sales on Boxing Day. That is just cruel, let them sleep.
Omg. That's terrible.
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Old 27-12-2016, 03:03
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I think Christmas is still a week long event for most people, with the final blow out on new years eve. The in between days are spent visiting the family, playing with new toys, getting drunk, watching xmas specials on tv, and just chilling out.

It does however seem less people leave their decs up till the 12th night these days with most opting for January 1st or 2nd. Back in the 80's it was unheard of for anyone to take them down earlier. Then again it was unheard of for anyone to put them up in November.
Anyone who puts them up in November needs a full frontal lobotomy.
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Old 27-12-2016, 03:04
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Look, I get what you are saying. I can see why you've become confused. I'm not having a go at you, only trying to point out the source of your frustration.

No, I'm not his brother.

[Edit] As for the bit in bold, that seems like a pretty safe bet given the timescale. Obviously nobody is trying to argue that ten billion years hence you still won't be allowed to open on a sunday.
I am not confused. Don't be patronizing.
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Old 27-12-2016, 03:08
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I am not confused. Don't be patronizing.
Okay, sweetheart.

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Old 27-12-2016, 07:10
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When I was younger I remember Christmas lasting for a week, Now it seems as soon as Christmas day is over, Christmas is finished. Music channels which think it's fine to play Christmas songs none stop from the start of November vanish as soon as the clock strikes 12 on Boxing day, Just went to the local shop, all the decorations are down and the staff informed me head office have told them to pack Christmas away and get the Easter eggs out !! Who on earth wakes up on Boxing day and thinks "oooo I must buy my Easter eggs today"


I think thats why its become such an anti climax, its been rammed down your throat since the middle of November then its like someone has flicked a switch like you say.
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Old 27-12-2016, 07:42
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Christmas finishes on January 6th.
Seriously it doesn't, except for a small minority. Once New Year Day is out of the way there is NOTHING to celebrate. Decks down 1st January and we look forward to Spring.
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Old 27-12-2016, 10:41
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Seriously it doesn't, except for a small minority. Once New Year Day is out of the way there is NOTHING to celebrate. Decks down 1st January and we look forward to Spring.
As referenced by the song:

On the eighth day of Christmas, my true love...

... got bored with the whole thing and just gave up.

I'm just happy that most people I know are part of the small minority.
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Old 27-12-2016, 10:44
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Seriously it doesn't, except for a small minority. Once New Year Day is out of the way there is NOTHING to celebrate. Decks down 1st January and we look forward to Spring.
May I suggest you get yourself a bible and learn about Christmas? A prime example of ignorance. Merry Christmas.
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Old 27-12-2016, 11:01
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I think Christmas is still a week long event for most people, with the final blow out on new years eve. The in between days are spent visiting the family, playing with new toys, getting drunk, watching xmas specials on tv, and just chilling out.

It does however seem less people leave their decs up till the 12th night these days with most opting for January 1st or 2nd. Back in the 80's it was unheard of for anyone to take them down earlier. Then again it was unheard of for anyone to put them up in November.
I'm not sure it is a week long event these days as most people are back at work tomorrow.
I think most people do Christmas in the run up to the big day and, by now, are fed up with the whole thing.
Our work Christmas parties started on 9th and I'm all partied out now. Though I'll get my second wind for nye this year.
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Old 27-12-2016, 11:06
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I've not missed any points. I never responded to the poster you refer to. So you're being misleading. I was responding to Mark who stubbornly insists that we'll never have Christmas Day opening of shops ever. Even in 1000 years.

Spar shops are always open on Christmas day. Have been for as long as I can remember.
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Old 27-12-2016, 11:07
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I'm not sure it is a week long event these days as most people are back at work tomorrow.
I think most people do Christmas in the run up to the big day and, by now, are fed up with the whole thing.
Our work Christmas parties started on 9th and I'm all partied out now. Though I'll get my second wind for nye this year.
Most people are back at work next week, not tomorrow.
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Old 27-12-2016, 11:08
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Spar shops are always open on Christmas day. Have been for as long as I can remember.
I know that. I'm talking about larger shops outside the present law.
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