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retailers trying to sell us a dream that this Christmas will be fantastic. Then they drop us like a sack of shit on Christmas Eve and it's onto the sales.. it's like a middle finger, we sucked you in again and you fell for it ha ha and Christmas is forgot about.
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All shops still Christmassy here.
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I think the OP was wrong about Xmas now being just one day. Not only is the Xmas German market still open in Birmingham this year but yesterday I was at the Tamworth snowdome at a very festive ice rink where they were still playing Christmas music. I even had a glass of eggnog too. You could even go and see Santa, who is there till January 1st. I think as long as you avoid the shops who appeal to a particular type of Scrooge, Christmas is still in full swing.
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I think the OP was wrong about Xmas now being just one day. Not only is the Xmas German market still open in Birmingham this year but yesterday I was at the Tamworth snowdome at a very festive ice rink where they were still playing Christmas music. I even had a glass of eggnog too. You could even go and see Santa, who is there till January 1st. I think as long as you avoid the shops who appeal to a particular type of Scrooge, Christmas is still in full swing.
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#130 |
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it's definitely still christmas, I still have a bowl of peanuts and after eights on the sideboard
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Damn twice I've been out and twice I forgot to get after eights. No one even bought any before Christmas, actually neither son bought their mum a box of chocolates for the second Christmas running.
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OP definitely has a point. I've seen Easter stuff already and a lot of the decorations have come down and been replaced with Sale signs which only used to happen in January. We're always being hurried up now ... it's depressing. We don't live in the moment.
During the run up we get Christmas rammed down our throats ... come Boxing Day it's all but over. It did used to last longer and the shops and businesses were closed for longer too. It'll be all fitness and dieting soon. Ugh .. we're being fast forwarded and encouraged to have the attention span of a gnat. ![]() Sometimes I think 'stop the world, I want to get off'. |
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In the car this morning and Radio 2 played Mariah Carey's All I Want for Christmas, which I thought was very nice.
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Still loads of shops and houses around here with xmas trees and decs up, including my office. However today is the 12th day, so they should all be down tonight.
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Still loads of shops and houses around here with xmas trees and decs up, including my office. However today is the 12th day, so they should all be down tonight.
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Tonight is a big Christmas occasion for some countries, including Spain. Three Kings arrive tonight and deliver the presents.
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Still loads of shops and houses around here with xmas trees and decs up, including my office. However today is the 12th day, so they should all be down tonight.
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No it isn't, tomorrow is 12th night
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Tonight is Twelfth Night, so decorations should come down today.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelfth_Night_(holiday) I see it can vary |
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Nope. 6th of January every year
Count it out for yourself. |
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The first night is the night of 25th December. That makes tonight Twelfth Night.
Count it out for yourself. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() However, it's over for another 9 months
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Funny enough, I used to think it was the 5th until someone said it was the 6th as the first day started on the 26th Boxing day
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Tonight is a big Christmas occasion for some countries, including Spain. Three Kings arrive tonight and deliver the presents.
As for which is 12th Night, the Wiki says that different religions have different definitions of 12th Night. SO you're both right
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Christmas is still making itself felt around here it seems. I am waiting to hear from a solicitor and hoping the builders will suddenly realise they're short of dosh and return to my extension -only 10 days since Christmas, so no, it's definitely not just 1 day in my view.
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The only shops that should be open boxing day and new years day are the small independent / franchise shops to give them a fair chance to get customers. I'm sure Tesco, ASDA, Sainsburys, Morrison's, Co-op and the rest could quite happily survive.
They call it "Business." I quite agree that it would be good if what you suggest above were the case, but that's not how the major players see it.... They want to eliminate competition. They want that 1 or 2% market share that the swathe of little shops around the country have so they can give bigger dividends to their shareholders (which, incidentally includes their own senior executives). If there's money to be made over Christmas, then they want it for themselves. And who contributes to this state of affairs..? We do. The public who saw tuppence off the price of a pint of milk and went for that and cancelled their doorstep delivery. Does anybody remember picking up a pint of milk off the doorstep in the morning..? The supermarkets drove them out of business by using milk as a loss leader and we all took the bait, didn't we....? You bet we did. Sure.... one or two small independents still exist and manage to cling on by their fingernails, but the supermarkets have got them in the cross-hairs too. They won't last. We are the public who decided it's better to do all our shopping under one roof instead of traipsing up and down the high street in the rain to buy bread at the baker, and meat at the butcher and cigs at the local newsagent and.... more shamefully in the case of some people, indulges in tacit on-the-quiet racism by chooses to get whatever they need locally from Tesco Metro rather than the corner shop that's run by Asians. So, as the last of those little corner shops and family run bakeries and butchers are disappearing forever and the supermarkets will soon be all there is, who will shed a tear..? Not many, I reckon. Yeah, there may be a few sepia tinted memories of "personal service" and that nice lady in the little shop on the corner who used to give you a sweet when you were sent on an errand with the note your mum gave you for a few bits and pieces that she needed. That smell of freshly baked bread from the little bakery behind the shop where your mum would spend ten minutes or so chatting with the friendly shop staff whenever she "just popped in for a fresh loaf and a couple of rolls for my lunch today".... the day that is gone for good gets closer every time you pick up one of the mass produced, been-in-a-freezer-container-for-six-months loaves that are sold by Morrison and Tesco and Waitrose. Fresh they aint. But it's all about the convenience and saving a few pennies, innit...? So zeropoint.... while I take your point and agree with it wholeheartedly, all I can say is that small businesses don't need one day a year to stay alive. They need 365 of them. And if we don't give them that, they WILL disappear. Corner shops, like dogs, aren't just for Christmas. |
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You make a lot of good points, Piskie, but I'm not sure about the bakery part. As far as I'm aware supermarket bread is not frozen at any point before being sold. It's made fresh and delivered to the supermarkets within hours. If you want to have a gripe at supermarket bread it's the Chorleywood baking process that you ought to be targeting, not the distribution system. And you can buy fresh baguettes and the like at most supermarkets as most of them incorporate a bakery. The smell of freshly baked bread is good for business, as you're no doubt aware.
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We are the public who decided it's better to do all our shopping under one roof instead of traipsing up and down the high street in the rain to buy bread at the baker, and meat at the butcher and cigs at the local newsagent and.... more shamefully in the case of some people, indulges in tacit on-the-quiet racism by chooses to get whatever they need locally from Tesco Metro rather than the corner shop that's run by Asians.
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What you're not taking into account here, is that the supermarkets want to drive the small, independent family run shops out of the marketplace.
They call it "Business." I quite agree that it would be good if what you suggest above were the case, but that's not how the major players see it.... They want to eliminate competition. They want that 1 or 2% market share that the swathe of little shops around the country have so they can give bigger dividends to their shareholders (which, incidentally includes their own senior executives). If there's money to be made over Christmas, then they want it for themselves. And who contributes to this state of affairs..? We do. The public who saw tuppence off the price of a pint of milk and went for that and cancelled their doorstep delivery. Does anybody remember picking up a pint of milk off the doorstep in the morning..? The supermarkets drove them out of business by using milk as a loss leader and we all took the bait, didn't we....? You bet we did. Sure.... one or two small independents still exist and manage to cling on by their fingernails, but the supermarkets have got them in the cross-hairs too. They won't last. We are the public who decided it's better to do all our shopping under one roof instead of traipsing up and down the high street in the rain to buy bread at the baker, and meat at the butcher and cigs at the local newsagent and.... more shamefully in the case of some people, indulges in tacit on-the-quiet racism by chooses to get whatever they need locally from Tesco Metro rather than the corner shop that's run by Asians. So, as the last of those little corner shops and family run bakeries and butchers are disappearing forever and the supermarkets will soon be all there is, who will shed a tear..? Not many, I reckon. Yeah, there may be a few sepia tinted memories of "personal service" and that nice lady in the little shop on the corner who used to give you a sweet when you were sent on an errand with the note your mum gave you for a few bits and pieces that she needed. That smell of freshly baked bread from the little bakery behind the shop where your mum would spend ten minutes or so chatting with the friendly shop staff whenever she "just popped in for a fresh loaf and a couple of rolls for my lunch today".... the day that is gone for good gets closer every time you pick up one of the mass produced, been-in-a-freezer-container-for-six-months loaves that are sold by Morrison and Tesco and Waitrose. Fresh they aint. But it's all about the convenience and saving a few pennies, innit...? So zeropoint.... while I take your point and agree with it wholeheartedly, all I can say is that small businesses don't need one day a year to stay alive. They need 365 of them. And if we don't give them that, they WILL disappear. Corner shops, like dogs, aren't just for Christmas. |
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Good point about the Easter Eggs,
I saw them on display at the super market today. 6th Jan, i think we're still within the 12 days of Christmas |
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Good point about the Easter Eggs,
I saw them on display at the super market today. 6th Jan, i think we're still within the 12 days of Christmas |
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