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Six months post Brexit and the picture is clear,Britain is heading for isolationalism |
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Six months post Brexit and the picture is clear,Britain is heading for isolationalism
In the last 24 hours we have had very interesting comments from Wilbur Ross, close aid to Donald Trump and a man who sees $$$ signs at any available opportunity.
This is a man who made a killing in Ireland in recent years. And he is out for more for his country with a plan to expoilt isolated Britain, but he has gone further and said Dublin can also feed off this British carcass. Not only that, at a recent world summit, Theresa May received the cold shoulder from Japan and India, and who can forget the recent events at an EU summit, Theresa May all alone on the sidelines. You've got Dublin, Paris, Frankfurt and Warsaw touting for UK business on a daily basis now. The head of the IDA, agency responsible for Irish FDI (Foreign Direct Investment) Martin Shanahan has being all over America and their news and business news networks exploiting Brexit by empathising Ireland remains open for business to lure more American FDI here and exploiting Brexit. 2016 is the year Britain turned to isolationalism and was on the end of many global cold shoulders. |
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Yes, like an offshore leper colony we will be isolated and at the mercy of whichever predatory pirates want to come and pick over our rotting carcass. What a future!
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Yes because we're going to become North Korea......the public will all start starving to death when the Economy comes crashing down.....but it's not happened yet because 'we haven't left the EU yet'.
Meanwhile back in Reality
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You maintain very optimistic about the effect of Brexit on Ireland. In direct contrast, fellow Irish posters are starting threads expressing their fears about Brexit's potential catastrophic consequences on the Irish economy (as well as effect on peace between the 2 Irelands) and complaining about not being kept informed of British plans.
It's a bit confusing. |
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You maintain very optimistic about the effect of Brexit on Ireland. In direct contrast, fellow Irish posters are starting threads expressing their fears about Brexit's potential catastrophic consequences on the Irish economy (as well as effect on peace between the 2 Irelands) and complaining about not being kept informed of British plans.
It's a bit confusing. |
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It's six months since the vote and recent official Irish economic data shows the Irish economy has not slowed. In fact EU data only last week reported that Ireland would again enjoy being the European Union's fastest performing economy again. That's three years in a row. Not bad, not bad at all.
![]() Why should anything have changed for Ireland yet? Irish people are worried about what will happen when the UK actually leaves. |
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Hi irishtroll2day
Here's hoping the UK facing part of the ROI economy is pitched into a economic decline in 2019!! The struggle of the Irish mushroom farmers is just the start. ![]() ![]()
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So who are Britain's friends heading into 2017?
And will Liam Fox actually get to strike any trade deals? It all looks very gloomy for the UK. Britain really is heading for the isolation corner. Billy No Mates springs to mind. |
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Brexit hasn't happened yet
![]() Why should anything have changed for Ireland yet? Irish people are worried about what will happen when the UK actually leaves. |
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Hi irishtroll2day
Here's hoping the UK facing part of the ROI economy is pitched into a economic decline in 2019!! The struggle of the Irish mushroom farmers is just the start. ![]() ![]() ![]() But we want to raid the London financial and insurance sector, we're currently persuing it diplomatically. |
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It's like remoaner central here today!
So negative and downbeat - even on St Stephens Day? Did the wren boys not pay the OP a visit? |
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Some Irish sectors may suffer, not yet showing up in Q4 2016 overall economic data.
But we want to raid the London financial and insurance sector, we're currently persuing it diplomatically. It makes economic sense. Countries like Canada, who have used London as their base to expand trade with Europe may also be looking at alternatives. |
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It's like remoaner central here today!
So negative and downbeat. - even on St Stephens Day.
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Happy St Stephens Day.
![]() So did you see any Wren boys today then? Ireland is perfectly entitled to do its own thing re staying the EU and so is the UK in leaving it. You worry about Ireland and let us deal with the UK. I can assure you the UK is quite a popular nation - why do you think so many Chinese, Malaysians and Singaporeans and more want to invest here, live here and buy property here. |
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Let's be pragmatic here, shall we?
Ireland can offer guaranteed, no ifs or buts EU membership. English speaking workforce. Highest per EU head with 3rd level education (Britain in fairness is in second place) Extremely competitive and attractive corporation tax rate. Political stability, that offers the 12.5% rate over the past 40 years no matter which government returned. Automatic access to and member of EU and EZ. Diverse workforce. One of the highest EU immigration rates, well ahead of the UK for foreign born population per head. Dublin is a no brainer, and it is a no brainer, head of the IDA, Martin Shanahan is saturating the American TV networks and business groups selling this story and telling them we're Europe's fastest growing economy and remain open for business while Britain dithers in confusion and chaos. Sure, you would be mad not to choose Ireland. |
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In the last 24 hours we have had very interesting comments from Wilbur Ross, close aid to Donald Trump and a man who sees $$$ signs at any available opportunity.
This is a man who made a killing in Ireland in recent years. And he is out for more for his country with a plan to expoilt isolated Britain, but he has gone further and said Dublin can also feed off this British carcass. Not only that, at a recent world summit, Theresa May received the cold shoulder from Japan and India, and who can forget the recent events at an EU summit, Theresa May all alone on the sidelines. You've got Dublin, Paris, Frankfurt and Warsaw touting for UK business on a daily basis now. The head of the IDA, agency responsible for Irish FDI (Foreign Direct Investment) Martin Shanahan has being all over America and their news and business news networks exploiting Brexit by empathising Ireland remains open for business to lure more American FDI here and exploiting Brexit. 2016 is the year Britain turned to isolationalism and was on the end of many global cold shoulders. We could always call in all our Irish loans. As Ireland is supposedly booming again you should have no problem finding £100 billion.
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We could always call in all our Irish loans. As Ireland is supposedly booming again you should have no problem finding £100 billion.
![]() Ireland can borrow cheaper on the international markets to Britain, international investors trust Ireland more, would you like Ireland to lend the UK funds at a discount to the current UK gilt rate? |
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Can I ask again? Who are Britain's friends in 2017? And will there be any Liam Fox trade deals?
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100 billion?
Ireland can borrow cheaper on the international markets to Britain, international investors trust Ireland more, would you like Ireland to lend the UK funds at a discount to the current UK gilt rate? *Other vowels are available*. |
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Hardly.
The UK was isolating itself (almost burying itself) within the EU. Outside the EU, we're a global country again with the ability to make trade deals with India, Australia, the USA, Canada and China (for example). The future's exciting for Britain now. |
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Let's be pragmatic here, shall we?
Ireland can offer guaranteed, no ifs or buts EU membership. English speaking workforce. Highest per EU head with 3rd level education (Britain in fairness is in second place) Extremely competitive and attractive corporation tax rate. Political stability, that offers the 12.5% rate over the past 40 years no matter which government returned. Automatic access to and member of EU and EZ. Diverse workforce. One of the highest EU immigration rates, well ahead of the UK for foreign born population per head. Dublin is a no brainer, and it is a no brainer, head of the IDA, Martin Shanahan is saturating the American TV networks and business groups selling this story and telling them we're Europe's fastest growing economy and remains open for business while Britain dithers in confusion and chaos. Sure, you would be mad not to choose Ireland. Small domestic market a major disadvantage for companies that make physical products. UK has much larger domestic market. Peripheral location, particularly disadvantageous to financial services companies in comparison to city of London financial centre. Regulatory environment for financial services more restrictive than UK. Risk of Tobin tax being introduced by EU. Personal tax, makes talented workers more expensive. Low headline corporate tax rate no longer has such a big advantage due to UK lowering its corporate tax rate and intending to lower it further. EU investigations of sweetheart corporate tax deals. Expensive workforce, utilities, cost of living, etc in comparison to some other EU nations. Inferior infrastructure in comparison to some other EU nations. |
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"Six months post Brexit and the picture is clear,Britain is heading for isolationalism"
It's amazing really that any country not in the EU exists in anything other than the barren wastes of economic decline and political isolation. |
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Hardly.
The UK was isolating itself (almost burying itself) within the EU. Outside the EU, we're a global country again with the ability to make trade deals with India, Australia, the USA, Canada and China (for example). The future's exciting for Britain now. |
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Hardly.
The UK was isolating itself (almost burying itself) within the EU. Outside the EU, we're a global country again with the ability to make trade deals with India, Australia, the USA, Canada and China (for example). The future's exciting for Britain now. we were slowly suffocating and becoming a total non entity losing our identity and freedom within the death star eu. |
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Disadvantages to Ireland.
Small domestic market a major disadvantage for companies that make physical products. UK has much larger domestic market. Peripheral location, particularly disadvantageous to financial services companies in comparison to city of London financial centre. Regulatory environment for financial services more restrictive than UK. Risk of Tobin tax being introduced by EU. Personal tax, makes talented workers more expensive. Low headline corporate tax rate no longer has such a big advantage due to UK lowering its corporate tax rate and intending to lower it further. EU investigations of sweetheart corporate tax deals. Expensive workforce, utilities, cost of living, etc in comparison to some other EU nations. Inferior infrastructure in comparison to some other EU nations. |
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