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For all other EU countries it's better for the UK to remain in, hence why we see these kinds of threads.
For the UK, being out is better. ------------- The EU is a poverty machine, so to maintain the standard of living of those at the top it transfers assets from "elsewhere". elsewhere=the UK populous. |
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So who are Britain's friends heading into 2017?
And will Liam Fox actually get to strike any trade deals? It all looks very gloomy for the UK. Britain really is heading for the isolation corner. Billy No Mates springs to mind. Liam Fox can not actually sign any trade deal until the UK has left the EU, so that would be a waste of time. Great Britain is looking at the world now not just the EU, I think the EU is isolation corner, trying to protect itself instead of trying to trade with the rest of the world, this is the reason the EU is not growing and is failing. Great Britain will soon have the world at it's feet, perhaps it's time for other nations in the EU to join us, it's just a shame that no other nation will have a vote to actually see what the people actually want. |
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Remind me again, which EU country globally is seen by investors as the Silicon Valley of europe? Oh, that would be Ireland.
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In the last 24 hours we have had very interesting comments from Wilbur Ross, close aid to Donald Trump and a man who sees $$$ signs at any available opportunity.
This is a man who made a killing in Ireland in recent years. And he is out for more for his country with a plan to expoilt isolated Britain, but he has gone further and said Dublin can also feed off this British carcass. Not only that, at a recent world summit, Theresa May received the cold shoulder from Japan and India, and who can forget the recent events at an EU summit, Theresa May all alone on the sidelines. You've got Dublin, Paris, Frankfurt and Warsaw touting for UK business on a daily basis now. The head of the IDA, agency responsible for Irish FDI (Foreign Direct Investment) Martin Shanahan has being all over America and their news and business news networks exploiting Brexit by empathising Ireland remains open for business to lure more American FDI here and exploiting Brexit. 2016 is the year Britain turned to isolationalism and was on the end of many global cold shoulders. |
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Currently unavailable and may still remain unavailable after the final deal, cementing Liam Fox' job redundant, irrelevant and a waste of time.
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"Six months post Brexit and the picture is clear,Britain is heading for isolationalism"
It's amazing really that any country not in the EU exists in anything other than the barren wastes of economic decline and political isolation. |
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Let's be pragmatic here, shall we?
Ireland can offer guaranteed, no ifs or buts EU membership. English speaking workforce. Highest per EU head with 3rd level education (Britain in fairness is in second place) Extremely competitive and attractive corporation tax rate. Political stability, that offers the 12.5% rate over the past 40 years no matter which government returned. Automatic access to and member of EU and EZ. Diverse workforce. One of the highest EU immigration rates, well ahead of the UK for foreign born population per head. Dublin is a no brainer, and it is a no brainer, head of the IDA, Martin Shanahan is saturating the American TV networks and business groups selling this story and telling them we're Europe's fastest growing economy and remain open for business while Britain dithers in confusion and chaos. Sure, you would be mad not to choose Ireland. |
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Let's be pragmatic here, shall we?
Ireland can offer guaranteed, no ifs or buts EU membership. English speaking workforce. Highest per EU head with 3rd level education (Britain in fairness is in second place) Extremely competitive and attractive corporation tax rate. Political stability, that offers the 12.5% rate over the past 40 years no matter which government returned. Automatic access to and member of EU and EZ. Diverse workforce. One of the highest EU immigration rates, well ahead of the UK for foreign born population per head. Dublin is a no brainer, and it is a no brainer, head of the IDA, Martin Shanahan is saturating the American TV networks and business groups selling this story and telling them we're Europe's fastest growing economy and remain open for business while Britain dithers in confusion and chaos. Sure, you would be mad not to choose Ireland. |
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Hardly.
The UK was isolating itself (almost burying itself) within the EU. Outside the EU, we're a global country again with the ability to make trade deals with India, Australia, the USA, Canada and China (for example). The future's exciting for Britain now. |
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Hardly.
The UK was isolating itself (almost burying itself) within the EU. Outside the EU, we're a global country again with the ability to make trade deals with India, Australia, the USA, Canada and China (for example). The future's exciting for Britain now. Quote:
"Six months post Brexit and the picture is clear,Britain is heading for isolationalism"
It's amazing really that any country not in the EU exists in anything other than the barren wastes of economic decline and political isolation. Quote:
cant agree more.
we were slowly suffocating and becoming a total non entity losing our identity and freedom within the death star eu. Quote:
For all other EU countries it's better for the UK to remain in, hence why we see these kinds of threads.
For the UK, being out is better. ------------- The EU is a poverty machine, so to maintain the standard of living of those at the top it transfers assets from "elsewhere". elsewhere=the UK populous. Quote:
You would swear that the only non EU countries are North Korea and Zimbabwe the way some people act on these boards.
I'm sure we can find healthier open relationships on the worldwide dating stage without being nagged when we want to stay out or go somewhere new. We will be Billy-lots-of-mates and the psychotic, sour and po-faced ex is welcome to sit, sulking making new rules just for itself. |
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Now tell us how many of your immigrants/migrants, come from the cream of EU educational establishments and whether you could even exist without them? Then tell us about the plight of the large number of poor Irish people, penniless and homeless.
![]() Ireland has done very well out of the EU as a net beneficiary - now it's about to become net contributor things might not seem so rosy. I quite like to go over to Ireland and drive on all those pristine motorways and dual carriageways - funded with EU (sorry UK) money that could have provided an awful lot of social care for elderly people in England and Wales. In the 1980s the main Dublin to Cork road was a windy pothole ridden single carriageway - not anymore! |
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Yes, the UK has almost no say in the direction of the EU and we have too many directives imposed on us that limit our competetiveness. Our global influence will be restored once our embassies, forcibly closed by the EU, are re-opened. I want to look out to the world not just as far as the EU says we can.
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Or even worse having that awful drip Enda Kenny as your PM!
![]() Ireland has done very well out of the EU as a net beneficiary - now it's about to become net contributor things might not seem so rosy. I quite like to go over to Ireland and drive on all those pristine motorways and dual carriageways - funded with EU (sorry UK) money that could have provided an awful lot of social care for elderly people in England and Wales. In the 1980s the main Dublin to Cork road was a windy pothole ridden single carriageway - not anymore! |
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In the last 24 hours we have had very interesting comments from Wilbur Ross, close aid to Donald Trump and a man who sees $$$ signs at any available opportunity.
This is a man who made a killing in Ireland in recent years. And he is out for more for his country with a plan to expoilt isolated Britain, but he has gone further and said Dublin can also feed off this British carcass. Not only that, at a recent world summit, Theresa May received the cold shoulder from Japan and India, and who can forget the recent events at an EU summit, Theresa May all alone on the sidelines. You've got Dublin, Paris, Frankfurt and Warsaw touting for UK business on a daily basis now. The head of the IDA, agency responsible for Irish FDI (Foreign Direct Investment) Martin Shanahan has being all over America and their news and business news networks exploiting Brexit by empathising Ireland remains open for business to lure more American FDI here and exploiting Brexit. 2016 is the year Britain turned to isolationalism and was on the end of many global cold shoulders. There is no chance of us opting for this. Why do you think that we would? |
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Its no more than you owe us given that we were a net contributor to the UK for over a hundred years. Many of your roads and railways were as a consequence built with Irish money, so what goes around comes around.
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I totally agree the UK provided lots of work and a livelihood for many Irish people - because de Valera and Fianna Fáil and their tweedle Dee opponents Fine Gael turned it into an inward looking country focused solely on farming which was basically run by the Catholic Church.
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Your grasp of Irish history is underwhelming. Your grasp of British history doesn't seem much better. Your country still benefits from infrastructure built with Irish taxes, so you have no right to complain about Ireland benefitting from EU structural funds.
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Ireland has been an independent nation for 94 years now - and has spent much of that time exporting its citizens to get work elsewhere. It's time to move on from blaming the Brits.
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Which of your embassies was forcibly closed by the EU?
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It is the intention of the EU to force all member states to close their separate embassies overseas so that they can all be replaced by a single EU embassy. All done by stealth of cource. This is designed to further diminish our own global competetiveness.
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Blaming the Brits for what? Ireland is doing just fine, thanks, its you who is complaining and blaming other countries for your problems.
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....apart from the collapse in its economy caused by membership of the Euro. Wait until the EU orders Ireland to collect £13billion in unpaid corporation tax! Ouch!
Any word on these forcibly closed embassies? |
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Does that mean the answer to my question is none?
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No it means the opposite....... all. The EU intends to be the sole representative of member states overseas and requires said member states to close down their historical links with other countries.
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