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Old 27-12-2016, 16:43
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Really - how come so many people from all over the world have and are still desperate to move there?

Maybe these countries essentially created by white men and women
aren't that bad really are they - otherwise so many people wouldn't want to move to them from other parts of the world..
By invaders forcibly taking the land of others, you mean.
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Old 27-12-2016, 17:24
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So many white people think BLM means BLM more, when it is in fact BLM too!
Yeah, but war against white people tho'.
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Old 27-12-2016, 17:40
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The originals Mtv's was so heavily down voted it was removed
Twice .. They tried to re-up it hoping for a differing result.
I think they'd prefer it if no one ever mentioned the video again.
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Old 27-12-2016, 18:17
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Twice .. They tried to re-up it hoping for a differing result.
I think they'd prefer it if no one ever mentioned the video again.
it was still up on the mtv twitter page
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Old 27-12-2016, 18:27
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YouTube comments are a cesspool. The very definition of the inmates running the asylum.
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Old 27-12-2016, 18:33
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Social justice warriorhood has its roots in socialist principles, specifically Cultural Marxism. Trump is the antichrist to these people with Farage as his sidekick. And it is this ideology that such celebrities have in common - Clinton played them as useful idiots in her attempt to become US President but didn't count on a growing number of people fed up with her and her rhetoric.
Yes but they are further left socialist than Clinton, who has criticised Denmark. These are the people you were talking about who project and exaggerate, and voted for hard left Brexit and Trump with their anti big business and anti globalisation principles
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Old 27-12-2016, 18:39
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When there's a spate of black police officers shooting unarmed white people, then there might be an equivalent video. Until then, perhaps you should be more concerned with the state of the US police force.
I thought the problem was Police Officers shooting black criminals
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Old 27-12-2016, 18:44
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By invaders forcibly taking the land of others, you mean.
Which is what most civilisations had been doing for thousands of years beforehand.
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Old 27-12-2016, 18:44
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By invaders forcibly taking the land of others, you mean.
I think us Celts were here first in the UK - and I am of Celtic stock But I don't blame the Anglo Saxon English and the Romans and the Normans for civilising us!

The word slave derives from the word Slav - when white Europeans were enslaved by the Ottoman Empire. Not that reparations are ever demanded of the Turks for their enslavement of Europeans.

If you go back far enough everyone did something bad. In much of Africa one third of people were slaves long before white Europeans arrived and Mauritania only recently abolished slavery.

White people aren't perfect but they really aren't responsible for all the worlds problems - but they do seem to have developed the nations most people seem to want to live in. Cos no one in the Mediterranean or Mexico seems to be fleeing south!
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Old 27-12-2016, 18:57
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Not quite

White men accounted for 70 per cent of suicides in the US in 2015 despite being Only 35 per cent of the population. Not that they get much sympathy for that - maybe it's the burden of being blamed for all the problems in the world. African American males have the lowest suicide rate of any ethnic group - barely one third that of white men.

https://afsp.org/about-suicide/suicide-statistics/

By contrast Black men in the US represent only six per cent of the US population but account for nearly half of all murders. If Americas problems were just all about access to guns then surely there wouldn't be this murder rate differential?

If you want to end up a victim of gun crime in the UK it's probably more likely to occur in say Hackney, Brent, Southwark and Lambeth than Hastings, Barnstaple, Scunthorpe or Llandudno which also have plenty of poor people.

Not that people like statistics - as emotions are far easier as they don't require much thought.
Yes please I love statistics. No emotion for me. As I always say "ignore your heart at all times, and follow your head ". Have you got Freakonomics for Christmas Marty? I had it 5 Christmas's ago. You seem very into your statistics today.

Psychiatrists have been studying the reason for suicide and associated issues such as addictions, self harm, mental illness and personality disorders . It's an ongoing study and there is no easy answer.

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Old 27-12-2016, 19:01
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By invaders forcibly taking the land of others, you mean.
Invaders covers all ethnic groups. I think you will not find an ethnicity that has not invaded at some point or other. It is not a pastime specific to white folks.
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Old 27-12-2016, 19:06
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I think us Celts were here first in the UK - and I am of Celtic stock But I don't blame the Anglo Saxon English and the Romans and the Normans for civilising us!

The word slave derives from the word Slav - when white Europeans were enslaved by the Ottoman Empire. Not that reparations are ever demanded of the Turks for their enslavement of Europeans.

If you go back far enough everyone did something bad. In much of Africa one third of people were slaves long before white Europeans arrived and Mauritania only recently abolished slavery.

White people aren't perfect but they really aren't responsible for all the worlds problems - but they do seem to have developed the nations most people seem to want to live in. Cos no one in the Mediterranean or Mexico seems to be fleeing south!
I was specifically referring to the US - which is what you were responding to in your post. You can include the rest of the Americas if you like, all invaded by Europeans in relatively recent historical times.
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Old 27-12-2016, 19:11
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The video is pretty funny (particularly the Kanye bit imo) but nothing earth shattering. It's only going to be remembered for triggering the usual suspects.

Has Bill O'Reilly thrown a temper tantrum yet?
I don't see anyone in this thread triggered by the video. I do see people getting triggered that people are calling MTV out on their bullshit though.
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Old 27-12-2016, 19:15
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I think us Celts were here first in the UK - and I am of Celtic stock But I don't blame the Anglo Saxon English and the Romans and the Normans for civilising us!

The word slave derives from the word Slav - when white Europeans were enslaved by the Ottoman Empire. Not that reparations are ever demanded of the Turks for their enslavement of Europeans.

If you go back far enough everyone did something bad. In much of Africa one third of people were slaves long before white Europeans arrived and Mauritania only recently abolished slavery.

White people aren't perfect but they really aren't responsible for all the worlds problems - but they do seem to have developed the nations most people seem to want to live in. Cos no one in the Mediterranean or Mexico seems to be fleeing south!
More interesting stuff Marty. I'm copying it into Google Keep. Have you got a History book as well?
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Old 27-12-2016, 19:15
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I was specifically referring to the US - which is what you were responding to in your post. You can include the rest of the Americas if you like, all invaded by Europeans in relatively recent historical times.
The Incas had an Empire which they won by invasion, the Pawnee were invaded by the Sioux over many years. There are many more examples where you will not find a European face all across the Americas.
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Old 27-12-2016, 19:19
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I thought the problem was Police Officers shooting black criminals
Of course you did.

Of course you did.
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Old 27-12-2016, 19:20
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I do find it ironic how the right likes to laugh at people for being "snowflakes" and "easily triggered" and then scream bloody murder when something like this appears.
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Old 27-12-2016, 19:25
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Invaders covers all ethnic groups. I think you will not find an ethnicity that has not invaded at some point or other. It is not a pastime specific to white folks.
I blame the entire human race myself. I do hope that Clifford Simak's writing comes true. I think dogs would make excellent rulers. They are far more perceptive and loving than us
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Old 27-12-2016, 19:26
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I do find it ironic how the right likes to laugh at people for being "snowflakes" and "easily triggered" and then scream bloody murder when something like this appears.
The point that is being made is that 'the left' do not apply the race laws they shouted so long and hard for equally. Few are objecting to what is said they are objecting to the fact that if the boot was on the other foot 'the left' would be apoplectic with rage.
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Old 27-12-2016, 19:27
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I blame the entire human race myself. I do hope that Clifford Simak's writing comes true. I think dogs would make excellent rulers. They are far more perceptive and loving than us
They are loving and caring within their pack but are aggressive and belligerent to outsiders, so no different to most humans.
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Old 27-12-2016, 19:35
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The point that is being made is that 'the left' do not apply the race laws they shouted so long and hard for equally. Few are objecting to what is said they are objecting to the fact that if the boot was on the other foot 'the left' would be apoplectic with rage.
If there was equality then there wouldn't be a problem and nothing for 'your left' to object to.
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Old 27-12-2016, 19:52
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Everyone in this video should be sent to Saudi Arabia for a few years for a reality check and a respite from all these hideous white people. I'm sure some crowdfunding could be arranged.

Meanwhile, I'm sure Team Trump will find this video very useful for future campaigns.
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Old 27-12-2016, 19:55
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I do find it ironic how the right likes to laugh at people for being "snowflakes" and "easily triggered" and then scream bloody murder when something like this appears.
people have been melting in the heat? What's triggered about? That's a new one . I find that snowflakes refer to the right with a delicate triggering system
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Old 27-12-2016, 19:58
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They are loving and caring within their pack but are aggressive and belligerent to outsiders, so no different to most humans.
You obviously don't know dogs very well. Dogs love outsider's such as human beings, other friendly dogs and even cats. It just depends on how you train them. Human beings are a stupid race and that includes me

But most humans aren't cold to strangers. We love cats and dogs
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Old 27-12-2016, 20:01
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More interesting stuff Marty. I'm copying it into Google Keep. Have you got a History book as well?
Its all out there for people to read.

You can read about the history of slavery by the Ottoman Empire at the link below. They only stopped keeping Caucasians as slaves in the 19th century - and had done so for well over 600 years. Far longer than the US and UK slave trade which lasted barely two centuries.

But this enslavement of white people is never taught to us or discussed. And if the Ottoman Empire hadn't been stopped through several wars in central Europe they could have taken over the whole of Europe.

It perhaps explains why nations like Hungary, Poland and Slovakia are less than keen on taking refugees from the Middle East because their ancestors fought many bloody wars to protect their borders so they didn't experience what people did in Ukraine and the Balkans and become slaves too. It runs deep.

Why we are never taught about this history of slavery in Europe in our schools rather perplexes me. But I don't suppose it suits the narrative - that white Europeans were responsible for all slavery in the world and were never slaves themselves.

All slavery was and is evil - and it was the rich and powerful and the kings and aristocrats who practiced it. It was never confined to any one race - white working class people in the UK and US were hardly beneficiaries either as they were deprived of paid work that others were enslaved to do for nothing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slav...Ottoman_Empire
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