It seems scrapping some 'burdensome regulations' along with leaving the EU, customs union etc will result in saving £450 million a week,

Sign me up! I wonder what the 100 or so regulations are? Who cares! Think of all that lolly! I had a look on the Change Britain website and can't see the research, but I trust Gove. And Boris is involved. Obviously.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ro-leave-group

A pressure group backed by a string of former Vote Leave campaigners from Michael Gove to Gisela Stuart has claimed that exiting the EU with a “clean Brexit” could save the country £450m a week.

The report from Change Britain claims the UK economy could benefit by £24bn a year by leaving the single market and customs union, calling this scenario a “clean Brexit”.

It argues that in a likely outcome this would deliver annual savings of £10.4bn from contributions to the EU budget and £1.2bn from scrapping “burdensome regulations” while allowing the UK to forge new trade deals worth £12.3bn.

Another benefit of leaving the world's only declining trading block. Thanks!

From the comments section underneath, here are the top 5 :

The top five costliest EU-derived regulations in force in the UK:

1) The UK Renewable Energy Strategy – Recurring cost: £4.7bn a year
2) The CRD IV package – Recurring cost: £4.6bn a year
3) The Working Time Directive – Recurring cost: £4.2bn a year
4) The EU Climate and Energy Package – Recurring cost: £3.4bn a year
5) The Temporary Agency Workers Directive – Recurring cost: £2.1bn a year

All things that sound like a rather good idea in other words.

Perhaps with your stunning growth in Ireland, you can afford costly needless regulations? We can't. There is a reason the EU isn't growing and has a shrinking share of world trade. Regulations play a huge part.

Those things like efforts to protect the environment and the Working Time Directive don't sound like a waste of money at all, more like money well spent.

Aah. The BTL stuff wouldn't load for me. Four of those would explain with Nigel Lawson and Digby Jones are involved. I had to look up 'CRD IV package' and I'm guessing the EU would want UK banks to have that in order to sell goods and services in EU27?
So £6billion of the savings will come from weakening employees rights. Super. And obviously the UKs nearest neighbours will not be bothered in the slightest by the having a near neighbour abandoning plans to combat climate change.

Cue the Brexiteers saying no one can tell the UK what to do ...

So the anti-EU cackling starts all over again from the besotted Brexit fanatics. Judging by their past performance any claimed savings would vanish like dust in the wind when exposed to the full glare of publicity and examination. But just consider that post-Brexit world of a UK stripped of international obligations, controlled by a secretive Tory government concerned only with maximizing profits for its cronies, driving down wages and reducing benefits to the bone for a supine population. Selling off what few public assets remain, kow-towing to the USA and China etc., and wasting tax-money on ludicrous grandstanding projects. So stand by for large dollops of spin and lies from the Brexit scoundrels anxious to resume strutting about the world stage while pushing the nation over the cliffs into chaos and isolationism. It is not a happy prospect for 2017.

Can you highlight the bit where it says this is government policy and we will get rid of all those things? No doubt we may leave some, but nowhere does it say all. It suits your anti British narrative though, doesn't it?

Of course the EU never wastes money on ludicrous grandstanding projects, does it? Transfer the whole circus to Strasbourg from Brussels for 3 days a month anyone? Still, anything to appease the French eh?

Of course it does, and it should be cleaned up from within aided by an active, positive and constructive UK. Better to live in peace and harmony with your neighbours than skulk in the bushes overwhelmed by your hang-ups, nastiness and prejudices. What a sad place Little England is becoming!

I'm anti-Brexit not anti-British, unless in the brave new Brexit world to love Britain means to love Brexit and vice versa. And it's not being anti-British to point out the folly or Brexit and the damage it will do to other countries. Oh and playing the patriot card this early in the thread? Bit of a waste.

As for the rest of your post - wasn't scrapping/getting freedom from EU rules and regulations one of the driving forces for the Leave campaign? And if worker protections are scrapped, surely it is worth it to make Brexit a success? I thought Brexiters were willing to share the pain to make Britain great again?

Or was the assumption that only immigrants and the 'metropolitan elite' would suffer?

When the Govt said they would port over EU las, directives etc they did not say how long they would keep them in place. The UK will be increasingly competing against China, India etc after brexit and costs need to be reduced. The easiest ways to do that will be through eroding workers rights and wages.

Still feeling like a winner?

So. the originator of the discredited £350m lie wants us to believe her, again!

So you don't think there will be pressure from within the (post- Brexit) UK to maintain working conditions, deal with climate change, make use of renewable energy and regulate the banks? Not all of the EU regulations are needless and U.K. regulation and re-regulation will cost money.

Have Brexiters given up on how Brexit will expand the economy, now it's all about cuts and "austerity"

The EU is growing, it has positive GDP growth. Telling lies doesn't help your argument.

Like the £350m a week for the nhs, that lie has been dropped.

Brexit fanatics want to press on regardless and insist there mustn't be another referendum to check they still have a majority.

clean brexit sounds great and much more sellable than hard brexit.
a catchy soundbite yes , but behind it is the way of saving the uk a lot of money to spend at home
i think if its explained that clean brexit is the way the uk will stop us pouring tens of billions of money in to the failed eu and have this sum to spend in the uk ...then people will be pleased and support the idea.
excellent.

I wouldn't have described any of those as 'needless'. Pity that there are so many people on here looking down from their lofty castles and unable to see a few years ahead to the results of abolishing some of those directives, which by the way Britain helped to institute. Don't suppose you thought of the last bit! I'm doubting that some of the things in that list will abolished. Easy to blame the EU for Britain's decisions.

"Clean Brexit"

Sound like "clean arse".

But it's still an arse.

Sorry to break this to you, but see those five points above? Any one of them will take billions out of the pockets of British workers in the form of lost wages. Because much of what they highlight is earned or spent here, not in the EU.

Still winning?

No work time directive, eh?

Because obviously, scrapping as many employee protections as possible are a good thing, right?

You keep saying this and it makes no sense. So what if it is declining? I still don't see how we are better off if we leave it? We weren't declining!


Of course, but none of these things are important to some hardline Brexiters. I'm sure they'd like us to return to Victoria era work conditions.


None of his post was anti-British. You need to stop linking the remain vote with being anti-British. It makes you sound a bit dim, with respect.

As for the rest of your interesting little post-if we don't get rid of all of them how will we accomplish that massive saving? Most of these things are important if we want a good standard of living, which is my main concern and should be yours. But doesn't seem to be. Your main concern seems to be trying to prove a point.

To become an insular, backwards thinking country that itself has been on the decline for decades as it said goodbye to everything other than finance and professional services in and around London. Thanks!

The hard sell is work longer hours, increased breathing difficulties and a riskier financial services according to some posts in this thread - I can't see people supporting this.

They will, if it stops or reduces the current level of EU migration - which is all Brexit seems to be about these days. No cost is too high (as long as others pay it) to all them EU plumbers, nurses and bankers coming in here, making jobs - er taking.

Brexit has gone beyond rational debate now. It's going to happen and it won't be nice.