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Inroducing 'clean Brexit' and its billions in savings
It seems scrapping some 'burdensome regulations' along with leaving the EU, customs union etc will result in saving £450 million a week,
Sign me up! I wonder what the 100 or so regulations are? Who cares! Think of all that lolly! I had a look on the Change Britain website and can't see the research, but I trust Gove. And Boris is involved. Obviously. https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ro-leave-group A pressure group backed by a string of former Vote Leave campaigners from Michael Gove to Gisela Stuart has claimed that exiting the EU with a “clean Brexit” could save the country £450m a week. The report from Change Britain claims the UK economy could benefit by £24bn a year by leaving the single market and customs union, calling this scenario a “clean Brexit”. It argues that in a likely outcome this would deliver annual savings of £10.4bn from contributions to the EU budget and £1.2bn from scrapping “burdensome regulations” while allowing the UK to forge new trade deals worth £12.3bn. |
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It seems scrapping some 'burdensome regulations' along with leaving the EU, customs union etc will result in saving £450 million a week,
Sign me up! I wonder what the 100 or so regulations are? Who cares! Think of all that lolly! I had a look on the Change Britain website and can't see the research, but I trust Gove. And Boris is involved. Obviously. https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ro-leave-group A pressure group backed by a string of former Vote Leave campaigners from Michael Gove to Gisela Stuart has claimed that exiting the EU with a “clean Brexit” could save the country £450m a week. The report from Change Britain claims the UK economy could benefit by £24bn a year by leaving the single market and customs union, calling this scenario a “clean Brexit”. It argues that in a likely outcome this would deliver annual savings of £10.4bn from contributions to the EU budget and £1.2bn from scrapping “burdensome regulations” while allowing the UK to forge new trade deals worth £12.3bn. |
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It seems scrapping some 'burdensome regulations' along with leaving the EU, customs union etc will result in saving £450 million a week,
Sign me up! I wonder what the 100 or so regulations are? Who cares! Think of all that lolly! I had a look on the Change Britain website and can't see the research, but I trust Gove. And Boris is involved. Obviously. https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ro-leave-group A pressure group backed by a string of former Vote Leave campaigners from Michael Gove to Gisela Stuart has claimed that exiting the EU with a “clean Brexit” could save the country £450m a week. The report from Change Britain claims the UK economy could benefit by £24bn a year by leaving the single market and customs union, calling this scenario a “clean Brexit”. It argues that in a likely outcome this would deliver annual savings of £10.4bn from contributions to the EU budget and £1.2bn from scrapping “burdensome regulations” while allowing the UK to forge new trade deals worth £12.3bn. The top five costliest EU-derived regulations in force in the UK: 1) The UK Renewable Energy Strategy – Recurring cost: £4.7bn a year 2) The CRD IV package – Recurring cost: £4.6bn a year 3) The Working Time Directive – Recurring cost: £4.2bn a year 4) The EU Climate and Energy Package – Recurring cost: £3.4bn a year 5) The Temporary Agency Workers Directive – Recurring cost: £2.1bn a year All things that sound like a rather good idea in other words. |
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From the comments section underneath, here are the top 5 :
The top five costliest EU-derived regulations in force in the UK: 1) The UK Renewable Energy Strategy – Recurring cost: £4.7bn a year 2) The CRD IV package – Recurring cost: £4.6bn a year 3) The Working Time Directive – Recurring cost: £4.2bn a year 4) The EU Climate and Energy Package – Recurring cost: £3.4bn a year 5) The Temporary Agency Workers Directive – Recurring cost: £2.1bn a year All things that sound like a rather good idea in other words. |
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Perhaps with your stunning growth in Ireland, you can afford costly needless regulations? We can't. There is a reason the EU isn't growing and has a shrinking share of world trade. Regulations play a huge part.
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From the comments section underneath, here are the top 5 :
The top five costliest EU-derived regulations in force in the UK: 1) The UK Renewable Energy Strategy – Recurring cost: £4.7bn a year 2) The CRD IV package – Recurring cost: £4.6bn a year 3) The Working Time Directive – Recurring cost: £4.2bn a year 4) The EU Climate and Energy Package – Recurring cost: £3.4bn a year 5) The Temporary Agency Workers Directive – Recurring cost: £2.1bn a year All things that sound like a rather good idea in other words. So £6billion of the savings will come from weakening employees rights. Super. And obviously the UKs nearest neighbours will not be bothered in the slightest by the having a near neighbour abandoning plans to combat climate change. Cue the Brexiteers saying no one can tell the UK what to do ... |
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From the comments section underneath, here are the top 5 :
The top five costliest EU-derived regulations in force in the UK: 1) The UK Renewable Energy Strategy – Recurring cost: £4.7bn a year 2) The CRD IV package – Recurring cost: £4.6bn a year 3) The Working Time Directive – Recurring cost: £4.2bn a year 4) The EU Climate and Energy Package – Recurring cost: £3.4bn a year 5) The Temporary Agency Workers Directive – Recurring cost: £2.1bn a year All things that sound like a rather good idea in other words. So the anti-EU cackling starts all over again from the besotted Brexit fanatics. Judging by their past performance any claimed savings would vanish like dust in the wind when exposed to the full glare of publicity and examination. But just consider that post-Brexit world of a UK stripped of international obligations, controlled by a secretive Tory government concerned only with maximizing profits for its cronies, driving down wages and reducing benefits to the bone for a supine population. Selling off what few public assets remain, kow-towing to the USA and China etc., and wasting tax-money on ludicrous grandstanding projects. So stand by for large dollops of spin and lies from the Brexit scoundrels anxious to resume strutting about the world stage while pushing the nation over the cliffs into chaos and isolationism. It is not a happy prospect for 2017. |
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Aah. The BTL stuff wouldn't load for me. Four of those would explain with Nigel Lawson and Digby Jones are involved. I had to look up 'CRD IV package' and I'm guessing the EU would want UK banks to have that in order to sell goods and services in EU27?
So £6billion of the savings will come from weakening employees rights. Super. And obviously the UKs nearest neighbours will not be bothered in the slightest by the having a near neighbour abandoning plans to combat climate change. Cue the Brexiteers saying no one can tell the UK what to do ... |
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So the anti-EU cackling starts all over again from the besotted Brexit fanatics. Judging by their past performance any claimed savings would vanish like dust in the wind when exposed to the full glare of publicity and examination. But just consider that post-Brexit world of a UK stripped of international obligations, controlled by a secretive Tory government concerned only with maximizing profits for its cronies, driving down wages and reducing benefits to the bone for a supine population. Selling off what few public assets remain, kow-towing to the USA and China etc., and wasting tax-money on ludicrous grandstanding projects. So stand by for large dollops of spin and lies from the Brexit scoundrels anxious to resume strutting about the world stage while pushing the nation over the cliffs into chaos and isolationism. It is not a happy prospect for 2017.
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Of course the EU never wastes money on ludicrous grandstanding projects, does it?
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Can you highlight the bit where it says this is government policy and we will get rid of all those things? No doubt we may leave some, but nowhere does it say all. It suits your anti British narrative though, doesn't it?
As for the rest of your post - wasn't scrapping/getting freedom from EU rules and regulations one of the driving forces for the Leave campaign? And if worker protections are scrapped, surely it is worth it to make Brexit a success? I thought Brexiters were willing to share the pain to make Britain great again? Or was the assumption that only immigrants and the 'metropolitan elite' would suffer? When the Govt said they would port over EU las, directives etc they did not say how long they would keep them in place. The UK will be increasingly competing against China, India etc after brexit and costs need to be reduced. The easiest ways to do that will be through eroding workers rights and wages. Still feeling like a winner? |
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.... saving £450 million a week,
.... but I trust Gove. And Boris is involved. Obviously. ......A pressure group backed by a string of former Vote Leave campaigners from Michael Gove to Gisela Stuart ..... |
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Perhaps with your stunning growth in Ireland, you can afford costly needless regulations? We can't. There is a reason the EU isn't growing and has a shrinking share of world trade. Regulations play a huge part.
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Have Brexiters given up on how Brexit will expand the economy, now it's all about cuts and "austerity"
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Perhaps with your stunning growth in Ireland, you can afford costly needless regulations? We can't. There is a reason the EU isn't growing and has a shrinking share of world trade. Regulations play a huge part.
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Have Brexiters given up on how Brexit will expand the economy, now it's all about cuts and "austerity"
Brexit fanatics want to press on regardless and insist there mustn't be another referendum to check they still have a majority. |
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clean brexit
sounds great and much more sellable than hard brexit.a catchy soundbite yes , but behind it is the way of saving the uk a lot of money to spend at home i think if its explained that clean brexit is the way the uk will stop us pouring tens of billions of money in to the failed eu and have this sum to spend in the uk ...then people will be pleased and support the idea. ![]() excellent. |
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Perhaps with your stunning growth in Ireland, you can afford costly needless regulations? We can't. There is a reason the EU isn't growing and has a shrinking share of world trade. Regulations play a huge part.
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"Clean Brexit"
Sound like "clean arse". But it's still an arse. |
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clean brexit
sounds great and much more sellable than hard brexit.a catchy soundbite yes , but behind it is the way of saving the uk a lot of money to spend at home i think if its explained that clean brexit is the way the uk will stop us pouring tens of billions of money in to the failed eu and have this sum to spend in the uk ...then people will be pleased and support the idea. ![]() excellent. Still winning? |
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No work time directive, eh?
Because obviously, scrapping as many employee protections as possible are a good thing, right? |
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Another benefit of leaving the world's only declining trading block. Thanks!
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Those things like efforts to protect the environment and the Working Time Directive don't sound like a waste of money at all, more like money well spent.
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Can you highlight the bit where it says this is government policy and we will get rid of all those things? No doubt we may leave some, but nowhere does it say all. It suits your anti British narrative though, doesn't it?
As for the rest of your interesting little post-if we don't get rid of all of them how will we accomplish that massive saving? Most of these things are important if we want a good standard of living, which is my main concern and should be yours. But doesn't seem to be. Your main concern seems to be trying to prove a point. |
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Another benefit of leaving the world's only declining trading block. Thanks!
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clean brexit
sounds great and much more sellable than hard brexit.a catchy soundbite yes , but behind it is the way of saving the uk a lot of money to spend at home i think if its explained that clean brexit is the way the uk will stop us pouring tens of billions of money in to the failed eu and have this sum to spend in the uk ...then people will be pleased and support the idea. ![]() excellent. |
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The hard sell is work longer hours, increased breathing difficulties and a riskier financial services according to some posts in this thread - I can't see people supporting this.
Brexit has gone beyond rational debate now. It's going to happen and it won't be nice. |
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sounds great and much more sellable than hard brexit.