It appears that we shall be deprived of the company and "novel" political views of the recently inactive MTUK1, at least for a while...

Not sure what was said but hey ho.

I only wish that, like Mr Takagi, he wouldn't be joining us for the rest of his life...

The £350 million taken by the EU from Britain weekly is probably false. The true cost is more like £700 million per. week when the cost of pointless directives, paying benefits to immigrants and paying benefits to British workers who have been forced on to benefits by unfair competition from cheap East European Labour are taken into account.

Ah yes, "pointless directives" like CRD IV on the list, who needs that?

Looks like Brexit is going well, regardless of what us Remoaners say.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...civil-servants

Theresa May is struggling to summon enough political courage to admit there will be difficulties in Britain’s exit from the European Union, according to the head of the senior civil servants’ union.

Dave Penman, general secretary of the FDA, said the prime minister’s inability to talk openly about the complexity of Brexit could lead to a breaking point in Whitehall as staff struggle with an immense workload on limited resources.

Civil servants across government departments are preparing for May to trigger article 50 in March, launching the Brexit process.

I'm sure you can back that statement with figures but let me help you. EU benefit claimants account for 2.2% of all claimants or to put it another way more than 97% of claimants were a national of another member state when they first got an NI number.

As for the pointless directives - would you like to give an example?

How could it be anything else? The most compelling argument against even the holding of the referendum is that there was zero planning in place for one of the options on the ballot paper. The whole Brexit thing is perhaps the most idiotic exercise in Britain in the last 50 years.

Who makes up this stuff? Clean Brexit now. Before it was hard and soft. A clean hard soft porno...

Not forgetting red, white, and blue.

As for the alleged £450M saving, are they going to write it on a big red bus?

Speaking of red buses .. Gove says the £350m for the NHS is still on

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...funding-pledge

[i][Michael Gove, a leading Brexit campaigner, has renewed his argument that economic experts need to be challenged and defended the Vote Leave slogan from the referendum campaign, saying that the NHS will get £350m a week after the UK leaves the EU.
Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, Gove expanded on his controversial claim during the Brexit campaign that the public had “had enough of experts” from economic bodies known by their acronyms.

In a debate with Stephanie Flanders, the economist and former BBC journalist, he even cited an expert professor to support his argument that expert economists were not good at making predictions.

“Sometimes we’re invited to take experts as though they were prophets, as though their words were carved in tablets of stone and that we had to simply meekly bow down before them and accept their verdict,” he said./I]

So what are we supposed to use - the entrails of some poor bl**dy slaughtered animal, or how about the direction the birds fly in. :rolleyes (as long as it is a raven).

Why not just throw a bunch of sticks in the air and see how they fall.

Failing that stare at the sky and make some pretentious announcement like Aquarius is in retrograde lets vote leave.

The same person that invented alt-right as the new name for "far right"?

I listened to that in full this morning. The only thing I agree with Gove on is that people should be skeptical *and demand to see the evidence*. The problem is that Gove himself didn't do that when he tried to use Brexit for his own gain, and he deflected when a very small number of people wanted to see his evidence for his assertions

Not to mention that the country seems to be happy to be skeptical, but not to want to see evidence. They'd rather have their doubt removed with the utter bollox that comes out of our newspapers, or what Barry said down the pub...

If they take a house, need education and healthcare for their family members and children and force British workers displaced in the workplace onto benefits then this has a huge cost.

Banning the sale of powerful vacuum cleaners and other examples of unwanted interference imposed on Britain?

Of course it's not. I can trace my family back a thousand years. That makes me more British than most so my opinion must be British and not anti British. I don't suppose it occurred to that it is your opinions that are anti British. Oh, because someone is a liberal or a 'lefty' it does not make them anti British either.

Have you heard of the Kyoto protocol? Signed up to by most developed countries and a few developing ones. No I thought not! Nowt to do with the EU old egg.

It's up to the Government to provide adequate housing, schools and health services for the population. They saying "Sorry Guv, but immigrants are to blame for shortages in those areas, nothing to do with us" would be no sort of an answer (and would be an absolute and bare faced lie in fact).

Oh no! After 6 months of the DS Brexit clique telling us that everyone knew the £350m figure was a lie, Gove goes and spoils it by still trying to peddle the same lie!

No wonder Gove has no friends.

Yet more implausible nonsense - Brexit supporters do NOT blame EU membership for all it's ills - but even a blind man would realise that a country doesn't have to pay a fortune, or cede responsible governance to a mostly alien additional Parliament, with the associated undemocratic executive in order to benefit from trade.
Especially when the political Union is a pie-eyed construct, acting as a Federation of states, despite so called sovereign, individual member countries are at great variance wrt their individual economies.
What is the point of being unable to prevent non-skilled EU personnel from just walking into this country when we have nearly two million unemployed, mostly non-skilled already claiming dole!!!
Immigration should be restricted to what the country needs.......as most sensibly governed countries do.
The current set up up is doomed to failure, as indicated by Greece, et al,
It is our stupid governments that have continued to let down this country that are the rightful target of blame - not the EU per se, or the immigrants - because nobody should be blamed for trying to better their lives - by taking legal steps at least.
And the pro-Brexit lobby can at least point to tangible \advantages that will be gained via Brexit - and not just the saving of the multi-billion EU subsidy - which is just absolute nonsense.
By definition, whilst we remain in the EU - such subsidies should be paid from the Overseas Aid fund..................because that is precisely what it is !!

To the wum. Don't ever quote me!