And what about the people that dont have driving licence or passport. ?

Get one. Don't be so helpless.

You need a passport to go outside the uk, which we have no plans to do, we dont drive or intend to start now, so why would me or my wife need these things ?

That assumes you have one!

My mum had/has a driving license although she never passed her test in the early 80's and hasn't had a passport since i traveled 'bump' class in the early 1970's so has no real state ID other than actually her bus pass and library card

Are you bored or something?

You have trolled this thread for the last couple of pages, you are incapable of following a link that provides all the information you asked for and when people have explained what ID is acceptable in NI and under the new pilot scheme you carp and go off at a tangent.

You are not showing yourself in a good light in my opinion

I'm not so sure. Maybe financial help for the elderly so the Tories don't disenfranchise them but a specific ID card for elections outside of Northern Ireland isn't gonna happen because:

a) It'll be deemed as a back door to ID cards that civil liberty campaigners detest;
b) Help Labour and UKIP - the Tories ain't Turkeys voting for Christmas;
c) Ruled out by Pickles.

Do you think people should have to pay to vote a passport is not free.

Sorry I disagree

There will be no justification for anyone saying its a back door to ID cards for the simple reason no one has to have a vote registration card if they don't want one.

Don't follow b)

As to c) I doubt he will be around to make the decision if we ever move to a national vote ID card (voluntary of course)

It's such a dangerous time for the UK with Theresa May and the rest of those people in power being closer to fascists than we have ever had before in the UK.

Basically buying elections and now election fixing on a huge scale.

So to ask someone to prove they are who they say they are is now election fixing on a huge scale . I think it is something that should have already been in place and was surprised the first time I went to vote that I didn't have to have ID

There will be people with no DL or Passport but there will be ways round it and they will have to be thought of but ID to my mind is not an issue. The easiest way of course without formal photo ID would be for a computer linked system and everyone has to give their NI Number and once logged that's it if anyone else turns up with that number anywhere else they are blocked and questioned.

If it is to be photo ID then the local authorities will have to arrange for people to be issued with some form of ID from their electoral departments , with the money they are making from parking fines and now by increasing business rates which they will get an increased share of (which are going up for most by in excess of 100% due to info provided to the VOA by councils) they can afford it.

BIB: They just don't give a shit.

Exactly, I am sure I know many who did not vote in the referendum it just hasn't been mentioned but two in particular complained to me the following day about the result, both live near me and the polling station is less than a five minute walk and both were at home and didn't go and vote , as I told them don't complain if you couldn't be bothered to nip out for few minutes if it had meant so much that you now complain then you would have

It was not PASS, it was an Eastern European document - may have been a driving licence without photo come to think of it - however the woman in front of me buying vodka was refused.

Presumably after Brexit EU citizens will not be able to vote in UK elections anyway.

I generally will not talk politics or care one iota with anyone who says, "they didn't vote"... ie: I don't give a shit about their political opinion if they didn't give a shit on polling day.

One would assume so other than the Irish, Maltese and Cypriots other EU citizens only get to vote in local council elections/mayoral/ EU now but not GE's.

I explain to my son who has just turned 18
People have died for the right for you to vote in elections in this country.
I don't care who you vote for - but you WILL go and vote.

Just done a quick Google online and apparantly ASda run a "Challenge 30" scheme now for alcohol purchases - and a lot of places want photo ID for click and collect shopping.

This is since the fines got doubled to £20K per offence of serving under 18's

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8693997.stm

Just amazing how people will happily show ID to get their online shopping or buy booze, but shout and rant about "Big Brother" when the same is applied to voting.

My only question - why were we NOT checking ID at polling stations up to now ??

Are you saying there is postal vote fraud and your happy to keep going with the same system?

how about waiving the charges for eligible passport application and renewal for those who's on certain DWP lists?

Well with aging population i would say postal vote numbers would keep increasing.

Dont forget this bit about passports After you apply, you’ll be asked to attend an interview to confirm your identity, and that could mean having to go miles for a interview. my closest passport office would be Birmingham which would be nearly 100 miles round trip 48.99 miles there and 48.99 miles back. And for what to get a passport which will never be used for what it was intended for

We weren't checking because there is no evidence of widespread voting fraud at polling stations.

The increase in postal votes should be a concern, rather than this cack-handed proposal.

Ahh the tories finally learning from their USA republican counterparts on how to rig elections.

What needs to happen is reversal of no-reason postal votes - that's where huge fraud goes on.

What happens if Royal Mail tries to deliver a parcel and you are out and you have to collect from the Post Office? Or do you never leave the house (other than to vote).

I am registered on an online HMRC account and I don't remember having to supply photo ID.

When I registered I had to give various information such as my NI number, etc. And after a few days I received a letter with a unique ID and pass number and instructions on how to log on.

In any case, how would a photo ID work when using an account online? It could be anyone using the account if they had the correct log in information.

All this criticism about having ID is a bit over the top.
It is only being trialled at the moment, obviously to identify any problems.

Of course a lot of this criticism seems to be coming from Labour.
If anyone was of a cynical mind, they may think it is because they are the party that may benefit the most from such irregularities as voter fraud, especially in postal voting where fraud is most likely to take place.