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Richard Hammond under fire after saying men who eat ice cream are "gay"
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jjwales
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“As a gay guy this doesn't offend me because I'm not easily offended. Straight friends of mine often say things are gay, but yet they don't mean it the way some people think.

We seem to have developed such thin shells lately, I miss proper comedy which we can't have anymore because 1 person might get offended.”

"Proper" comedy? Was that Bernard Manning type humour? If so, I think we're better off without it!
Whedonite
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“As a gay guy this doesn't offend me because I'm not easily offended. Straight friends of mine often say things are gay, but yet they don't mean it the way some people think.

We seem to have developed such thin shells lately, I miss proper comedy which we can't have anymore because 1 person might get offended.

I have an idea, what about easily offended stickers? they could be round and purple and you put them on your shirt and then at least people know not to say the slightest thing around them. Then when there's a comedy gig on they could turn away the purple badges and say "sorry, I don't think this is for you".”

I think simply not making homophobic comments is easier.

People always dismiss casual homophobia. I wonder if the same people would be fine with casual racism.
dee123
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“As a gay guy this doesn't offend me because I'm not easily offended. Straight friends of mine often say things are gay, but yet they don't mean it the way some people think.

We seem to have developed such thin shells lately, I miss proper comedy which we can't have anymore because 1 person might get offended.

I have an idea, what about easily offended stickers? they could be round and purple and you put them on your shirt and then at least people know not to say the slightest thing around them. Then when there's a comedy gig on they could turn away the purple badges and say "sorry, I don't think this is for you".”

NEWSFLASH. You don't speak for all gay people. While it's nice you aren't offended by the comments that doesn't in any way mean the people who are should be belittled.
billiesmith
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“As a gay guy this doesn't offend me because I'm not easily offended. Straight friends of mine often say things are gay, but yet they don't mean it the way some people think.

We seem to have developed such thin shells lately, I miss proper comedy which we can't have anymore because 1 person might get offended.

I have an idea, what about easily offended stickers? they could be round and purple and you put them on your shirt and then at least people know not to say the slightest thing around them. Then when there's a comedy gig on they could turn away the purple badges and say "sorry, I don't think this is for you".”

I'm not offended by what he said - I just think it is a ridiculous thing to say - what does what you eat have to do with your sexuality or masculinity?
Thine Wonk
27-12-2016
Whether you're gay, straight, black, white, tory, labour, muslim, christian, tall, short, fat.... somebody is always going to say something that would potentially touch you. The key is to grow a bit of a skin and not to take what 1 person says as offensive.

I want to hear people's honest opinions even if I disagree with them, but in this case it sounds like it was meant as a joke.

I absolutely hate this political correctness that people seem to strive for these days when people can't say anything without some special snowflake taking offense.
Fairyprincess0
27-12-2016
Are people so homophobic That theyll deny themselves even innocent pleasures such as ice cream?????

What an absurd world. Ice cream is super yummy (which i realise sounds a little camp. )

Maybe some one should send hamster-brian a few tubs of tutti-frutti.....
Lyceum
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Lewi26:
“God why are my fellow gays so sensitive? Is it because we have all the equality we ever wanted so now we can only get outraged over stupid comments like this?”

I was wondering this myself.

I'm gay. I watched it laughed at it because it was clearly meant to be a joke and haven't thought about it since.
blueblade
27-12-2016
What a stupid statement by Hammond.
Fairyprincess0
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Whether you're gay, straight, black, white, tory, labour, muslim, christian, tall, short, fat.... somebody is always going to say something that would potentially touch you. The key is to grow a bit of a skin and not to take what 1 person says as offensive.

I want to hear people's honest opinions even if I disagree with them, but in this case it sounds like it was meant as a joke.

I absolutely hate this political correctness that people seem to strive for these days when people can't say anything without some special snowflake taking offense.”

I agree, but my fear is that labels like 'snowflake' could be used by bigots to create a 'safe space' for their vitriol.

Free speech must be a two way street....
Hank Schrader
27-12-2016
The man is a dick head and a moron.
LauraLS
27-12-2016
Stupid joke, but I'm pretty sure he's not really homophobic. And he's stupid for going along with it, because now he'll probably forever be known as being homophobic and it'll be brought up at every opportunity.
billiesmith
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Lyceum:
“I was wondering this myself.

I'm gay. I watched it laughed at it because it was clearly meant to be a joke and haven't thought about it since.”

I'm not gay and not offended - but can you tell me where the joke is? Why can he not eat ice cream because he is straight? Where is the humour in that?
Pumping Iron
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Whedonite:
“I think simply not making homophobic comments is easier.

People always dismiss casual homophobia. I wonder if the same people would be fine with casual racism.”

There's loads of casual racism in the media, especially in comedy.
Derek1903
27-12-2016
People take everything to seriously. it was a joke, maybe not a funny one but it was just said for fun. Soon people won`t be able to even talk without being labelled racist, homophobic etc.

you make a joke that you would to a white person but if you do it to a black person you are classed racist.
People get offended by to much nowadays, just grow a pair and say something back if you don`t like it, no need to act all insulted every time.

kids used to grow up falling of bikes, fighting with each other etc but now when that happens everyone gets all protective and moan at the parents for letting it happen. They are kids they are suppose to fight or fall over as they grow up.

This subject is just the same. years ago nobody would even mention it, it was a joke someone would have a come back joke and that`s it. nobody would even remember it 5 minutes later.
But in today`s world people get offended of everything so i guess the reactions to this are what we expected.
Thine Wonk
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Pumping Iron:
“There's loads of casual racism in the media, especially in comedy.”

GOOD, I hope there's jokes about black men, white men, women, muslims, gays, fat people and more besides.

I LIKE laughing at US because that's what we're doing. There isn't a category which humour doesn't touch.

The worst thing about it is that we're losing comedy people of obsessive political correctness and the fear of snowflake offense.
Chief_Wiggum
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by billiesmith:
“I'm not gay and not offended - but can you tell me where the joke is? Why can he not eat ice cream because he is straight? Where is the humour in that? ”

I suppose you have to look at the target audience for the programme- in essence, it's for people of a low IQ who enjoy watching balding, fat old men in their 50s joshing about and having "banter" with a vague theme of cars about the programme.

The target audience were probably amused by this joke but most other people were disgusted.

Richard Hammond has been the #1 trend on Twitter for the last 12 hours. This is really riling people.

Hammond should apologise for these remarks.
jjwales
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Whether you're gay, straight, black, white, tory, labour, muslim, christian, tall, short, fat.... somebody is always going to say something that would potentially touch you. The key is to grow a bit of a skin and not to take what 1 person says as offensive.

I want to hear people's honest opinions even if I disagree with them, but in this case it sounds like it was meant as a joke.

I absolutely hate this political correctness that people seem to strive for these days when people can't say anything without some special snowflake taking offense.”

You call it political correctness, others would just say it's being considerate of others' feelings.
Thine Wonk
27-12-2016
Hammy should just tweet back .. piss off snowflakes .. and I say that as a gay man.
jjwales
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Fairyprincess0:
“I agree, but my fear is that labels like 'snowflake' could be used by bigots to create a 'safe space' for their vitriol.”

Good point.
Chief_Wiggum
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Derek1903:
“People take everything to seriously. it was a joke, maybe not a funny one but it was just said for fun. Soon people won`t be able to even talk without being labelled racist, homophobic etc.

you make a joke that you would to a white person but if you do it to a black person you are classed racist.
People get offended by to much nowadays, just grow a pair and say something back if you don`t like it, no need to act all insulted every time.

kids used to grow up falling of bikes, fighting with each other etc but now when that happens everyone gets all protective and moan at the parents for letting it happen. They are kids they are suppose to fight or fall over as they grow up.

This subject is just the same. years ago nobody would even mention it, it was a joke someone would have a come back joke and that`s it. nobody would even remember it 5 minutes later.
But in today`s world people get offended of everything so i guess the reactions to this are what we expected.”

So as long as something is "said for fun" it is ok? Is that what you are saying?

A lot of people are offended by what was a stupid 'joke", and they have good reason to be offended because it was insulting to gay people. Trying to suggest that there is something wrong with something BECAUSE it "looks gay" is likely to cause offense to homosexual people.
Thine Wonk
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by jjwales:
“You call it political correctness, others would just say it's being considerate of others' feelings.”

Yeah I absolute hate it, I blame university TBH, it used to be where you'd go to experience a melting pot of views and broaden yourself, these days they are all so keen to be so super inoffensive and taught to run to Twitter if anyone upsets them and go under mummy's arm.
Chief_Wiggum
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Hammy should just tweet back .. piss off snowflakes .. and I say that as a gay man.”

You also say that as an idiot who has no grasp of what is acceptable or not.

This is 2016, not 1956.
Hank Schrader
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Hammy should just tweet back .. piss off snowflakes .. and I say that as a gay man.”

I don't know who came up with that ridiculous new term but it REALLY gets on my tits.
tealady
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by billiesmith:
“ - why is eating ice-cream "not the most macho thing a man can do" can you give me a list of foods you would consider macho? ”

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/36845699
http://www.kismot.co.uk/kismotkiller.html
http://www.eatgrub.co.uk/
Thine Wonk
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Chief_Wiggum:
“You also say that as an idiot who has no grasp of what is acceptable or not.

This is 2016, not 1956.”

So desperate to be politically correct aren't you.
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