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Richard Hammond under fire after saying men who eat ice cream are "gay"
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ffawkes
27-12-2016
I don't think anything he says should be considered important.
Raquelos.
27-12-2016
Twatty little man says twatty little thing because he is, y'know, a twa.t. Really what else is there to say?
patsylimerick
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“Where? ”

Here's just a selection.

Originally Posted by Ivor Biggun:
“People need to get over themselves and get a grip on more serious issues going on in the world.
What a humorless world we seem to be heading towards
when every comment made by anyone is picked apart by one group or another because they feel oppressed. Its life ffs, deal with it.”

Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“As a gay guy this doesn't offend me because I'm not easily offended. Straight friends of mine often say things are gay, but yet they don't mean it the way some people think.

We seem to have developed such thin shells lately, I miss proper comedy which we can't have anymore because 1 person might get offended.

I have an idea, what about easily offended stickers? they could be round and purple and you put them on your shirt and then at least people know not to say the slightest thing around them. Then when there's a comedy gig on they could turn away the purple badges and say "sorry, I don't think this is for you".”

Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Whether you're gay, straight, black, white, tory, labour, muslim, christian, tall, short, fat.... somebody is always going to say something that would potentially touch you. The key is to grow a bit of a skin and not to take what 1 person says as offensive.

I want to hear people's honest opinions even if I disagree with them, but in this case it sounds like it was meant as a joke.

I absolutely hate this political correctness that people seem to strive for these days when people can't say anything without some special snowflake taking offense.”

Originally Posted by Derek1903:
“People take everything to seriously. it was a joke, maybe not a funny one but it was just said for fun. Soon people won`t be able to even talk without being labelled racist, homophobic etc.

you make a joke that you would to a white person but if you do it to a black person you are classed racist.
People get offended by to much nowadays, just grow a pair and say something back if you don`t like it, no need to act all insulted every time.

kids used to grow up falling of bikes, fighting with each other etc but now when that happens everyone gets all protective and moan at the parents for letting it happen. They are kids they are suppose to fight or fall over as they grow up.

This subject is just the same. years ago nobody would even mention it, it was a joke someone would have a come back joke and that`s it. nobody would even remember it 5 minutes later.
But in today`s world people get offended of everything so i guess the reactions to this are what we expected.”

Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“GOOD, I hope there's jokes about black men, white men, women, muslims, gays, fat people and more besides.

I LIKE laughing at US because that's what we're doing. There isn't a category which humour doesn't touch.

The worst thing about it is that we're losing comedy people of obsessive political correctness and the fear of snowflake offense.”

Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Hammy should just tweet back .. piss off snowflakes .. and I say that as a gay man.”

Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Yeah I absolute hate it, I blame university TBH, it used to be where you'd go to experience a melting pot of views and broaden yourself, these days they are all so keen to be so super inoffensive and taught to run to Twitter if anyone upsets them and go under mummy's arm.”

Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“So desperate to be politically correct aren't you.”

Originally Posted by Armi:
“Absolutely.

I'm just glad he doesn't work for the BBC any more. Can you imagine how much taxpayers money would be wasted by the serially offended? There'd be two inquiries, 27 meetings and at least four probes and a half dozen investigations.”

Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“Low IQ? Care to furnish us with what you watch? It wasnt overly funny, but it certainly was not homophobic. It was just a crap joke. And it's fair to say 'most people' are not offended at all.

For the last 12 hours? Wow! The episode was broadcast last week....

So basically, someone got offended, picked this up and a few other folk have got offended as well.

It's hardly worth bothering about surely? It was simply a joke. People need to stop being so offended all the time. The human race is turning into a bunch of bloody wooses.”

Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“I hope so, although the 5 people in this thread demonstrate that there are people like that, maybe the new forum could have a ❅ symbol next to their name so we know and can be careful around them.

The new software could automatically replace some grown up topics with cat pictures if you select that view.”

Originally Posted by Pumping Iron:
“Yes there are eternally offended people out there (usually on the behalf of others), let them get on with being offended, it won't stop me watching or saying what I want. If nobody ever told a racist, homophobic, sexist etc joke ever again, people would still find something to get offended about.”

Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Some people find things funny that others don't. As I said earlier we all have something that would potentially match "us" gay, straight, black, white, fat, thin, ginger, pale, Irish, Tory, Labour (keep going...)

This really isn't a big thing, so silly for people to get so upset on Twitter over it and it just demonstrates how silly this political correctness thing has gone. I wish we did'n't have people like you spoiling comedy and being so over sensitive.”

Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Oh now it's "children watch" so lets pull anything children can't see, maybe we should make the whole thing censored down to a children's program level.”

Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“Yes it's streamed, but the vast majority will watch it on release. Therefore some numpty who got offended has started all this for no reason.

It wasnt homophobic and it wasn't offensive. It was merely a joke that YOU didn't like. I didn't find it funny either, but i wasn't offended!

The problem here is people like you who carry on about how everything is homophobic and offensive, Sure we have to have a line, but you are taking this too far now.

So again, care to furnish us with what you watch?”

Derek1903
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Chief_Wiggum:
“So as long as something is "said for fun" it is ok? Is that what you are saying?

A lot of people are offended by what was a stupid 'joke", and they have good reason to be offended because it was insulting to gay people. Trying to suggest that there is something wrong with something BECAUSE it "looks gay" is likely to cause offense to homosexual people.”

you sound like a little baby. Why get offended from it. If you don`t like it just make a "joke" in response, no need to go around crying saying it was insulting.

If i`m fat someone can make a joke about it, if i`m skinny someone can make a joke about it. I won`t start crying saying i got offended. Even if i didn`t like it I would just reply with a come back. No need to get so angry over a joke.

A bald guy always gets made fun of about his baldness or a fat/skinny guy gets made fun of, do you see them coming out and crying all the time saying they feel insulted. They just make a joke back. End of story and everyone forgets about it all in 5 minutes.

Plus most jokes are always going to be insulting someone anyway. I mean half the jokes on US comedy shows are aimed at the US president or people that voted for him (republican or democrats). Well that`s insulting to him and his voters but people just laugh and get on with it.
At football you insult your opposition but you just get on with it. Nobody goes crying home like a baby saying "i feel insulted".
patsylimerick
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Derek1903:
“you sound like a little baby. Why get offended from it. If you don`t like it just make a "joke" in response, no need to go around crying saying it was insulting.

If i`m fat someone can make a joke about it, if i`m skinny someone can make a joke about it. I won`t start crying saying i got offended. Even if i didn`t like it I would just reply with a come back. No need to get so angry over a joke.

A bald guy always gets made fun of about his baldness or a fat/skinny guy gets made fun of, do you see them coming out and crying all the time saying they feel insulted. They just make a joke back. End of story and everyone forgets about it all in 5 minutes.

Plus most jokes are always going to be insulting someone anyway. I mean half the jokes on US comedy shows are aimed at the US president or people that voted for him (republican or democrats). Well that`s insulting to him and his voters but people just laugh and get on with it.
At football you insult your opposition but you just get on with it. Nobody goes crying home like a baby saying "i feel insulted".”

Bit in bold - that shows a shocking lack of understanding of the damage that this type of 'joke' can do.
Pitman
27-12-2016
why is he still working, he showed he can't drive when he nearly killed himself, that was the funniest thing he has ever done on that show ?
muggins14
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Derek1903:
“you sound like a little baby. Why get offended from it. If you don`t like it just make a "joke" in response, no need to go around crying saying it was insulting.

If i`m fat someone can make a joke about it, if i`m skinny someone can make a joke about it. I won`t start crying saying i got offended. Even if i didn`t like it I would just reply with a come back. No need to get so angry over a joke.

A bald guy always gets made fun of about his baldness or a fat/skinny guy gets made fun of, do you see them coming out and crying all the time saying they feel insulted. They just make a joke back. End of story and everyone forgets about it all in 5 minutes.

Plus most jokes are always going to be insulting someone anyway. I mean half the jokes on US comedy shows are aimed at the US president or people that voted for him (republican or democrats). Well that`s insulting to him and his voters but people just laugh and get on with it.
At football you insult your opposition but you just get on with it. Nobody goes crying home like a baby saying "i feel insulted".”

Have you seen Trump's twitter feed? He tantrums over all sorts of things said to and about him, he doesn't let it lie at all!
howardl
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“Bit in bold - that shows a shocking lack of understanding of the damage that this type of 'joke' can do.”

I and many others just ignore it and carry on...he's trying to be funny, he's the joker and wants to make silly remarks, sometimes they back fire on jokers...damaging??...nah
446.09375
27-12-2016
Consider this - we're fortunate to live in the part of the western world where the media has educated us in the past few decades to accept many things that other parts of the world consider "not normal". Go back to the 60s or before, and things were very different. Our TV has bombarded us with "There's nothing wrong with this", and rightly so. This hasn't happened in other parts of the world.

Travel as widely as Clarkson, Hammond and May and you'll come into contact with lots of other cultures that haven't progressed as far as we have. Add to this their considerable contact with 'macho' man who live on engine oil and racing, and it's not surprising if Hammond may have a slightly wider view, more global, viewpoint on all sorts of aspects of humanity that differ all over the world, and where we may actually be in a minority in the enlightened West.

Can't remember the last time I saw an action hero in a movie, or a bunch of soldiers, eating a sweet cold treat on a hot day. It's not a typically 'macho' thing to do, is it really? The stereotypical macho man has no time for such pleasures - too busy being an alpha male

That's all I'm saying. I shall quite happily continue to enjoy a Magnum in public because I don't agree with Hammond, and couldn't care less, but I can understand the line of thinking that led to his joke.
scottie2121
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Dotheboyshall:
“Eating ice cream makes me happy”

It makes me feel gay.
scottie2121
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Derek1903:
“you sound like a little baby. Why get offended from it. If you don`t like it just make a "joke" in response, no need to go around crying saying it was insulting.

If i`m fat someone can make a joke about it, if i`m skinny someone can make a joke about it. I won`t start crying saying i got offended. Even if i didn`t like it I would just reply with a come back. No need to get so angry over a joke.

A bald guy always gets made fun of about his baldness or a fat/skinny guy gets made fun of, do you see them coming out and crying all the time saying they feel insulted. They just make a joke back. End of story and everyone forgets about it all in 5 minutes.

Plus most jokes are always going to be insulting someone anyway. I mean half the jokes on US comedy shows are aimed at the US president or people that voted for him (republican or democrats). Well that`s insulting to him and his voters but people just laugh and get on with it.
At football you insult your opposition but you just get on with it. Nobody goes crying home like a baby saying "i feel insulted".”


So how do you make a joke back when the idiot is on TV? Or they're the loudmouth in the pub surrounded by their fellow banterers?

It's funny how the ones who seem to get most upset are the ones who feel their right to offend without any come-back is being challenged.


And stop stereotyping babies. Babies are cool!
muggins14
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by 446.09375:
“Consider this - we're fortunate to live in the part of the western world where the media has educated us in the past few decades to accept many things that other parts of the world consider "not normal". Go back to the 60s or before, and things were very different. Our TV has bombarded us with "There's nothing wrong with this", and rightly so. This hasn't happened in other parts of the world.

Travel as widely as Clarkson, Hammond and May and you'll come into contact with lots of other cultures that haven't progressed as far as we have. Add to this their considerable contact with 'macho' man who live on engine oil and racing, and it's not surprising if Hammond may have a slightly wider view, more global, viewpoint on all sorts of aspects of humanity that differ all over the world, and where we may actually be in a minority in the enlightened West.

Can't remember the last time I saw an action hero in a movie, or a bunch of soldiers, eating a sweet cold treat on a hot day. It's not a typically 'macho' thing to do, is it really? The stereotypical macho man has no time for such pleasures - too busy being an alpha male

That's all I'm saying. I shall quite happily continue to enjoy a Magnum in public because I don't agree with Hammond, and couldn't care less, but I can understand the line of thinking that led to his joke.”

For such a widely travelled bunch they seem to learn nothing from other cultures and societies - I doubt they even mix among the general populous much. Their minds seem never to have broadened, they seem mostly to sneer at other countries and their cultures and have been told off for doing so. They aren't travelling to broaden their minds, it certainly hasn't broadened theirs.
anne_666
27-12-2016
Silly man with a little mind?
Arcana
27-12-2016
Puerile remarks but, as usual, some of the outrage seems a bit faux.

Also I note the predictable casual heightism in some of the criticism of him. 🙄
scottie2121
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by 446.09375:
“Consider this - we're fortunate to live in the part of the western world where the media has educated us in the past few decades to accept many things that other parts of the world consider "not normal". Go back to the 60s or before, and things were very different. Our TV has bombarded us with "There's nothing wrong with this", and rightly so. This hasn't happened in other parts of the world.

Travel as widely as Clarkson, Hammond and May and you'll come into contact with lots of other cultures that haven't progressed as far as we have. Add to this their considerable contact with 'macho' man who live on engine oil and racing, and it's not surprising if Hammond may have a slightly wider view, more global, viewpoint on all sorts of aspects of humanity that differ all over the world, and where we may actually be in a minority in the enlightened West.

Can't remember the last time I saw an action hero in a movie, or a bunch of soldiers, eating a sweet cold treat on a hot day. It's not a typically 'macho' thing to do, is it really? The stereotypical macho man has no time for such pleasures - too busy being an alpha male

That's all I'm saying. I shall quite happily continue to enjoy a Magnum in public because I don't agree with Hammond, and couldn't care less, but I can understand the line of thinking that led to his joke.”

Movies aren't real life!

Egyptian soldiers eating ice cream


Soldiers in Bogota enjoying ice cream


German soldiers eating ice cream


They don't think he's gay
dee123
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by stoatie:
“First time I saw it was in Palahniuk's Fight Club.”

Hmm... Interesting.
dee123
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Pitman:
“why is he still working, he showed he can't drive when he nearly killed himself, that was the funniest thing he has ever done on that show ? ”

That's a bit below the belt.

From what i remember a tyre burst and one of the parachutes on the car failed.
D_Mcd4
27-12-2016
More free publicity for the show plus added bonus of the fans getting to moan about PC gorn mad.
claire2281
27-12-2016
Tbh whilst it wasn't particularly funny the 'point' of the thing was the other two laughing at him and taking the piss out of his stupid (although obviously scripted) views. That seems to have been somehow lost in people's outrage and I'm not sure why.
Hoffmister
27-12-2016
It makes me chuckle, I get the feeling that the bods who hated top gear and campaigned for years to axe it, felt a hole in their life so bought amerzon to watch it and then campaign against it and get it axed.

But hey I do that with most shows, Im a DSer

Its also important to note that the show is heavily scripted and as always the coves rely on bad publicity from the press and social media to proper gate the foot print of their shows
Happ Hazzard
27-12-2016
Hammond is entitled to his viewpoint. It isn't that controversial, men eating ice cream was pretty much unheard of until the 80s, it was for children, with certain pre-packaged ice cream (Cornetto for instance) being marketed towards women.
anne_666
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Happ Hazzard:
“Hammond is entitled to his viewpoint. It isn't that controversial, men eating ice cream was pretty much unheard of until the 80s, it was for children, with certain pre-packaged ice cream (Cornetto for instance) being marketed towards women.”

You have to be kidding!
muggins14
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Happ Hazzard:
“Hammond is entitled to his viewpoint. It isn't that controversial, men eating ice cream was pretty much unheard of until the 80s, it was for children, with certain pre-packaged ice cream (Cornetto for instance) being marketed towards women.”

Better tell that to my expired Dad, who had ice-cream with us every Sunday when we were kids!

Men eating ice-cream was never a 'thing' as people just ate ice-cream

In the 80's advertising really went up a notch and, as with most things, they aimed it at the best market to sell their items. Cars at men, chocolate at women. It didn't mean women didn't drive or men eat chocolate.

If it's not all over the media it doesn't mean it's not happening.
ajman
27-12-2016
His comment is not homophobic because in order for it to be so then there would have to be something wrong with eating ice cream or the act of eating ice cream should evoke some sort of negative connotation which it doesn't. His comment does display ignorance though because patently isn't true..

The sad thing is that there will now be a certain type of straight man who will now be scared to ever eat ice cream again.
Kai Thompson
27-12-2016
Sometimes I think that when it comes to men and being emasculated they really are their own worst enemy. In what universe does eating ice cream make a man gay?
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