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George Michael - Disrespect
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Dr. Claw
27-12-2016
it is what it is. drugs is part of the story of his life
MTUK1
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Leicester_Hunk:
“I haven't seen the Daily Mail for days but it is disgraceful.

Going on about drugs and booze, showing pictures of him looking terrible, of his partner in socks and sandals, all to just basically take the mick.”

How would you know this if you haven't seen the Daily Mail in days?
Union Jock
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by MTUK1:
“How would you know this if you haven't seen the Daily Mail in days?”

Overheard a careless whisper.
Caxton
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
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There is no such thing as the media, and the public who eat up all the fodder they provide, respecting a person's right to privacy or a private life.”

This may be so, but in general celebrities are happy to get the publicity from the media when it suits them. You just cannot sanitise a person and only see the good points they have.
Leicester_Hunk
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by MTUK1:
“How would you know this if you haven't seen the Daily Mail in days?”

Until today.
flashfiction
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by eggchen:
“Many rock and pop stars hit the skids and die young because they hammer the wild living, with copious amounts of drugs, booze, parties, lots of sexual partners etc

It goes with the territory.

No point trying to pretend it wasn't their lifestyle that eventually screwed many of them up, even to the point of many dying because of it.”

BIB yes, apparently it's statistically proven they have a shorter longevity than other careers.

Think GM would say he believed in recreational drug use, for the most, until it totally got his hooks in him. There's no doubt it shortened his career too BUT if given the choice of what he would have viewed as a dreary long life vs a briefer hedonistic one, maybe he'd still have chosen the latter. OTOH it's a real shame that he needed weed in order to write and that became a complete bind despite, he felt, it helping him to make better music.

He was a complicated man, that's why he's more interesting than the Daily Mails Z listers as mentioned by another poster on this page. ( They're best left in the DM or the many, many DS threads created for them. This slender distinction between the DM and DS does )
Grafenwalder
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by blueblade:
“The article I think the OP refers to, is here

I know the Mail are no saints, but that article is only reflecting facts.

...and yes, he did look unrecognisable with all that weight.”

Then i'm not sure what anyone finds "disgraceful" there?

He drank, had indulged drugs, was overweight and obviously not particularly fit. All can contribute to heart failure so whats the problem?

I would have thought people to be more upset over the fact of his relative young age than a paper stating the blindingly obvious about drugs/drink/weight.
1fab
27-12-2016
Things haven't improved in this respect since Marilyn Monroe's death in the 1960s:

"All the papers had to say was that Marilyn was found in the nude" [Candle in the Wind]

These amazing people who entertain us all - how the press love to hound them, even after death.
Sylvester2007
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Whilst I agree that this is what they do when people die, bring up all their failings and faults”


Other parts of the media make the deceased look like they were saints.

Every famous person who dies seem to be the cleverest, funniest, kindest down to earth person anyone would wish to meet.

It's both ends of the scale exaggerated.

I don't think it's disrespectful if adds to the 'story' but I do think they could wait a couple of days before dragging someone through the mud or making them sound like Mother Theresa II.
francie
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“Other parts of the media make the deceased look like they were saints.

Every famous person who dies seem to be the cleverest, funniest, kindest down to earth person anyone would wish to meet.

It's both ends of the scale exaggerated.

I don't think it's disrespectful if adds to the 'story' but I do think they could wait a couple of days before dragging someone through the mud or making them sound like Mother Theresa II.”

I think that applies to most who die though, death is an airbrush.
Sylvester2007
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by francie:
“I think that applies to most who die though, death is an airbrush.”

I don't disagree and I like the term 'death is an airbrush' and I am nicking it for personal use, unless you have copyrighted it
francie
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“I don't disagree and I like the term 'death is an airbrush' and I am nicking it for personal use, unless you have copyrighted it ”

Damn
planets
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by francie:
“Damn ”

Luckily the instant you wrote it your copyright was automatically asserted. Sylvester owes you royalties, prepare an invoice
Sylvester2007
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by francie:
“Damn ”

Originally Posted by planets:
“Luckily the instant you wrote it your copyright was automatically asserted. Sylvester owes you royalties, prepare an invoice ”

I've not used it yet, but I have my 5p ready.
1fab
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“I don't disagree and I like the term 'death is an airbrush' and I am nicking it for personal use, unless you have copyrighted it ”

You're ok, copyright doesn't cover short phrases.
francie
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“I've not used it yet, but I have my 5p ready.”

Dream on
francie
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by 1fab:
“You're ok, copyright doesn't cover short phrases. ”

Oi...
Sylvester2007
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by 1fab:
“You're ok, copyright doesn't cover short phrases. ”

Phew. Thought the 5p jar was going to take a hammering.

Originally Posted by francie:
“Dream on ”

Sorry, I forgot to add VAT
gamzattiwoo
27-12-2016
The. Mail have only reported what has been in the public domain for years. Although they have well publicised George's generosity which is something I didn't know until I read it so they printed good and bad aspects of his life. So what that is what newspapers do.
If what was published about GM ' s life was untrue or exaggerated then be up in arms about it but that is not the case.
too_much_coffee
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by flashfiction:
“Yes, agree with you but must say
No different than Sky's coverage, nor the Daily Mirror. Telegraph were babbling on about heroin soon after. Presume same stories in Times but haven't looked.

And no different than the majority of the comments on DSpy on the main thread yesterday.
(Guardian was better - it actually focused on his achievements.)”

In the main the Guardian was better but The Guardian had a dreadful article by Owen Jones who seems to think that George's greatest characteristic was his homosexuality.

George was an immensely talented man, who happened to be homosexual. It will be really refreshing the day that The Guardian value and praise people for their talents rather than their ability to belong to a minority group that one of their journalists can turn into a "victim" article.
Ænima
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Pink_Smurf:
“This could have gone in the big George Michael thread but nevermind, he did abuse drugs and alcohol while he had serious health problems. It's not a surprise he died too young. What do you expect the newspapers to do, lie?”

The papers, lie? Hell no, they're total beacons of truth
Grafenwalder
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by too_much_coffee:
“In the main the Guardian was better but The Guardian had a dreadful article by Owen Jones who seems to think that George's greatest characteristic was his homosexuality.”

Jones is extraordinarily childish and immature. The idiot threw a hissy and stormed off after insulting Mark Longhurst during a discussion on the Orlando club massacre.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...er-review-aft/
eggchen
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by too_much_coffee:
“In the main the Guardian was better but The Guardian had a dreadful article by Owen Jones who seems to think that George's greatest characteristic was his homosexuality.

George was an immensely talented man, who happened to be homosexual. It will be really refreshing the day that The Guardian value and praise people for their talents rather than their ability to belong to a minority group that one of their journalists can turn into a "victim" article.”

Sounds ideal, but you have to consider that the "is he? / isn't he?" aspect of whether he was gay or not formed a big part of his early public persona. Then he was outed in spectacular fashion, which he then overtly embraced and weaved into that persona from then on. So to just try and ignore it to maintain some kind of noble political correctness is a bit futile imo. That's who he was. Much like Freddie Mercury before him.
Ovalteenie
27-12-2016
It's sad that he can't have a private meal in a restaurant without being papped... obviously oblivious to the camera in that last photo published in the tabloids...
ianradioian
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by MTUK1:
“How would you know this if you haven't seen the Daily Mail in days?”

Hahahahahaaaa 😃😃😃
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