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Old 27-12-2016, 15:36
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Ever since the square found out that Bobby killed Lucy, no one (apart from the police) has bothered asking how he did it or about Max, Ben and Jake's false arrest. I remember characters having scenes saying it was awful for the Beales that Bobby was arrested. It's as if they think Ian and Jane didn't know.

Abi was angry at Lauren for keeping the secret but hardly had a grudge against the Beales. Then both Lauren and Abi were angry at Max for not wanting to see them after what they did. Stacey wasn't annoyed at the Beales and was just happy that Max was finally out of prison. I can't even remember Jack mentioning it. Mick and Martin didn't care after knowing the Beales knew about Bobby. The Mitchells just want to hide that Phil bribed the jury.

I had expected the whole square to shun the Beales after finding the truth seeing as they put an innocent man in jail. Also no one seemed to piece together how Jane lied in court about sleeping with Max.
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Old 27-12-2016, 15:45
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Adding on to that, they almost let Jake go down for it too. Tina became good friends with him as they shared a flat with Tosh ans Aleks at the time. She didn't seem bothered either.
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Old 27-12-2016, 15:51
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Max isn't exactly an angel and well loved by all characters .
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Old 27-12-2016, 15:52
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As far as the wider EE community is concerned I think you've answered your own question, OP.

They think that Ian and Jane did not know it was Bobby when Max went to jail.

Given Max's reputation and the fact that at the time, Ian and Jane weren't together, people probably assume that Jane was telling the truth when she says she was sleeping with Max as his alibi.
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Old 27-12-2016, 15:54
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Because its non of their business?
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Old 27-12-2016, 15:54
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They have to follow the script.
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Old 27-12-2016, 16:00
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As far as the wider EE community is concerned I think you've answered your own question, OP.

They think that Ian and Jane did not know it was Bobby when Max went to jail.

Given Max's reputation and the fact that at the time, Ian and Jane weren't together, people probably assume that Jane was telling the truth when she says she was sleeping with Max as his alibi.
Oh yeah, this better than my answer and true
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Old 27-12-2016, 16:02
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Since Bobby ran into the pub telling Ian in front of everyone that he killed Lucy and Ian looked shocked, maybe they think Bobby kept it to himself? I don't know.

I was annoyed at the way everyone reacted when they heard that Max was back. The Mitchells especially, they were acting like he's a trouble maker for them when Phil is ill when they made sure he went to prison for a murder they knew he didn't commit. Mick looked aggressive when he saw Max enter the pub (but then again that could just be Dyer's face ) and Martin and Michelle even looked annoyed about Max. Martin knows the truth, so what's his problem? Other than him being Stacey's ex.
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Old 27-12-2016, 16:32
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As far as the wider EE community is concerned I think you've answered your own question, OP.

They think that Ian and Jane did not know it was Bobby when Max went to jail.

Given Max's reputation and the fact that at the time, Ian and Jane weren't together, people probably assume that Jane was telling the truth when she says she was sleeping with Max as his alibi.
Exactly this.

Everybody except Mick and those also complicit on the cover up so Phil, Sharon and Lauren belive that Ian and Jane only found out when Bobby confessed in the Vic after attacking Jane. So, at the time of all the arrests and even Maxs conviction, they thought he was guilty.

The only suspicious thing would be Jane hiving him an alibi but how many of them know about that?
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Old 27-12-2016, 16:34
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Maybe part of Max's revenge will be outing Jane and Ian's involvement?
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Old 27-12-2016, 16:46
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Maybe part of Max's revenge will be outing Jane and Ian's involvement?
Might be, even though we are spose to know 100% of everything that goes on. in reality we don't; like having a pee, or giving out a phone number ..
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Old 27-12-2016, 18:51
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Since Bobby ran into the pub telling Ian in front of everyone that he killed Lucy and Ian looked shocked, maybe they think Bobby kept it to himself? I don't know.

I was annoyed at the way everyone reacted when they heard that Max was back. The Mitchells especially, they were acting like he's a trouble maker for them when Phil is ill when they made sure he went to prison for a murder they knew he didn't commit. Mick looked aggressive when he saw Max enter the pub (but then again that could just be Dyer's face ) and Martin and Michelle even looked annoyed about Max. Martin knows the truth, so what's his problem? Other than him being Stacey's ex.
Phil and Mick were among a group of locals who barred Max from using their facilities and tried to drive him out of the Square after it was revealed he'd been sleeping with Lucy. Max's reputation was in tatters already, even before he was (as it turned out wrongly) convicted of her murder.
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Old 27-12-2016, 19:04
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Shirley - Shot Phil, tried to drown several people
Babe - Made a living selling babies
Patrick - Threw a lady down the stairs and tried to cover up her "death"
Vincent - Helped get rid of Fatboys body and has been pretending he is alive
Dot - Serial killer, baby snatcher, druggie

Not sure thr majority of the residents can really judge the Beales tbh without being hypocrites.
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Old 27-12-2016, 19:11
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Exactly this.

Everybody except Mick and those also complicit on the cover up so Phil, Sharon and Lauren belive that Ian and Jane only found out when Bobby confessed in the Vic after attacking Jane. So, at the time of all the arrests and even Maxs conviction, they thought he was guilty.

The only suspicious thing would be Jane hiving him an alibi but how many of them know about that?
But that makes no sense as when Max was arrested he shouted out in front of the whole square "BOBBY KILLED LUCY". Then a year later people find out that Bobby actually DID kill Lucy. How on earth would Max have known something as random as that. Why is no one questioning how he knew ?

Also EVERYONE knows Jane gave Max an alibi as she said it in court under oath. If the square believed Max to be guilty then that made Jane a liar. But no one says anything?

The whole storyline was frankly ludicrous from start to finish, if indeed it "ever" does finish.
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Old 27-12-2016, 19:13
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But that makes no sense as when Max was arrested he shouted out in front of the whole square "BOBBY KILLED LUCY". Then a year later people find out that Bobby actually DID kill Lucy. How on earth would Max have known something as random as that. Why is no one questioning how he knew ?

Also EVERYONE knows Jane gave Max an alibi as she said it in court under oath. If the square believed Max to be guilty then that made Jane a liar. But no one says anything?

The whole storyline was frankly ludicrous from start to finish, if indeed it "ever" does finish.
You are right, but I guess the collective IQ of "Square" residents is not that high & most seem to have no morals.
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Old 27-12-2016, 19:15
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But that makes no sense as when Max was arrested he shouted out in front of the whole square "BOBBY KILLED LUCY". Then a year later people find out that Bobby actually DID kill Lucy. How on earth would Max have known something as random as that. Why is no one questioning how he knew ?

Also EVERYONE knows Jane gave Max an alibi as she said it in court under oath. If the square believed Max to be guilty then that made Jane a liar. But no one says anything?

The whole storyline was frankly ludicrous from start to finish, if indeed it "ever" does finish.
I concur. Lauren made me laugh organising a pub lunch with Max and the Beales!
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Old 27-12-2016, 20:05
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Ah I also forgot to mention that Max did shout out that Bobby killed Lucy when he was arrested which no character mentioned recently. Perhaps they thought Bobby accidentally let it slip to Max for some reason

Although Max wasn't liked by everyone, surely he'd get more sympathy for spending months in jail for something he didn't do.
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Old 27-12-2016, 20:11
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But that makes no sense as when Max was arrested he shouted out in front of the whole square "BOBBY KILLED LUCY". Then a year later people find out that Bobby actually DID kill Lucy. How on earth would Max have known something as random as that. Why is no one questioning how he knew ?

Also EVERYONE knows Jane gave Max an alibi as she said it in court under oath. If the square believed Max to be guilty then that made Jane a liar. But no one says anything?

The whole storyline was frankly ludicrous from start to finish, if indeed it "ever" does finish.
They might have thought he had a lucky guess? Or even that Bobby said something so he realised but Jane and Ian weren't necessarily there to hear Bobby confess that time.

Max shouting it out doesn't prove others knew at that point at all.

Only those people in Court know what was said and most characters didn't attend.

I agree the cover up story was stupid but don't have an issue with most characters not knowing that it happened.
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Old 27-12-2016, 20:25
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But that makes no sense as when Max was arrested he shouted out in front of the whole square "BOBBY KILLED LUCY". Then a year later people find out that Bobby actually DID kill Lucy. How on earth would Max have known something as random as that. Why is no one questioning how he knew ?

Also EVERYONE knows Jane gave Max an alibi as she said it in court under oath. If the square believed Max to be guilty then that made Jane a liar. But no one says anything?

The whole storyline was frankly ludicrous from start to finish, if indeed it "ever" does finish.

Am I the only one missing another point....

So bobby killed Lucy the parents didn't know anything about it ok but how did Lucy,s body move itself to the common ? Magic
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Old 27-12-2016, 20:30
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The residents who are aware of what happened probably understand why they did it - a lot of parent would do anything to protect their children
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Old 27-12-2016, 20:46
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Am I the only one missing another point....

So bobby killed Lucy the parents didn't know anything about it ok but how did Lucy,s body move itself to the common ? Magic
The Police seemed to have forgotten that she wasn't killed on the Commom when Bobby confessed, maybe everybody else has as well.

In fact, did they know that in the first place? The Police told Ian but it might not have been announced to the General Public.
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Old 27-12-2016, 20:48
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The residents who are aware of what happened probably understand why they did it - a lot of parent would do anything to protect their children
Oh please.
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Old 27-12-2016, 20:49
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The residents who are aware of what happened probably understand why they did it - a lot of parent would do anything to protect their children
Maybe not to the extent at letting somebody innocent get the blame.
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Old 27-12-2016, 20:50
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Am I the only one missing another point....

So bobby killed Lucy the parents didn't know anything about it ok but how did Lucy,s body move itself to the common ? Magic
The police told the Beales that it was murder and staged to look like a robbery. However after Bobby confessed, it was changed and they think she went out at night after Bobby hit her (not sure why she would walk alone at the common at night). DTC rushed the ending.
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Old 27-12-2016, 20:52
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Am I the only one missing another point....

So bobby killed Lucy the parents didn't know anything about it ok but how did Lucy,s body move itself to the common ? Magic
The assumption was made by the POLICE that after Bobby hit her, lucy staggered of of the house and out onto the common where she collapsed and died. Which made no sense because when she was found the police investigation deduced that she had NOT died on the common but had been moved there.

The whole lucy storyline was just a ridiculous mess. Why none of the residents remembered max shouting out it was Bobby is stupid. stacey becoming best friends with jane is daft. Mick has never berated Ian for letting an innocent man go to jail. And the whole square are treating max like a leper even though he was innocent. Not one of the residents have actually said sorry to max for not supporting him or believing him. I don't necessarily expect them to throw him a party but I do think at least one of two of them aphid have said something to him.
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