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Old 27-12-2016, 20:44
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I think Roxy will survive, Ronnie won't.
Very stupid decision imo.
Better that than the other way round - Roxy has always been the better character and better acted IMO - Ronnie has always been a bit boring and one-dimensional (again IMO)
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Old 27-12-2016, 20:58
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I think the 'Powers That Be' saw the speculation in the 'tabloids' and decided to play along with it and troll us - they had the Phil liver SL to help them keep it going - I'm expecting both to leave together (although we may get one death - I'm not sure)
if Ronnie - at least they can have a big drama for the custody of Matthew - Charlie coming back - battle with Jack - leaving Dot very unhappy etc. etc. etc.
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Old 27-12-2016, 21:02
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or double bluff

but what was it Aunt Sal said: about them not being able to live without each other ... i.e. also die together .. ominous
If anything I thought it makes it more likely that only one of them dies - so we get to see how one copes without the other (if only briefly before she also leaves the show)
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Old 27-12-2016, 21:06
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He attempted to turn EastEnders into Hollyoaks, introducing swathes of newer, younger characters and targeted it at teenagers. He made the show almost unwatchable, and alienated millions of viewers. Not to mention the fact he killed off Pat Butcher when she only asked for a break. The show is yet to fully recover from his tenure.
Well I sort of understand what you mean, turning it into Hollyoaks would alienate older veiwers. And that Pat Butcher woman was on it years wasn't she? Yes that was a bad move. Why is he called Birkwood? That is probably a really obvious pun I dont get, isn't it?
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Old 27-12-2016, 21:29
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Well I sort of understand what you mean, turning it into Hollyoaks would alienate older veiwers. And that Pat Butcher woman was on it years wasn't she? Yes that was a bad move. Why is he called Birkwood? That is probably a really obvious pun I dont get, isn't it?
Because he's a berk.
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Old 27-12-2016, 21:39
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Ronnie may die but not Roxy
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Old 27-12-2016, 21:40
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Well I sort of understand what you mean, turning it into Hollyoaks would alienate older veiwers. And that Pat Butcher woman was on it years wasn't she? Yes that was a bad move. Why is he called Birkwood? That is probably a really obvious pun I dont get, isn't it?
Because he's a berk.


I basically think hes deranged, he is part of the reason EastEnders did, and is STILL struggling to recover from what he did to the show. I wont go into it now but most of the forum knows how he ruined the show, its been mentioned countless occasions.
Killing off Pat was completely unforgiveable, an iconic character like her at her age wanted to take a break, but he kills her off, this probably snowballed into Babs Windsor request to be killed off, had Pat still been there, who knows what storylines we could of had between those 2.

Do not even get me started on what hes done to Hollyoaks, oh how i used to love that show
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Old 27-12-2016, 21:44
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I'm starting to think Roxy won't die, after her tarot card reading. Think her reading is a red herring.
This. She is supposed to die but Ronnie will save her and die instead I think.
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Old 27-12-2016, 21:58
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another thing - Roxy wears a black dress on the latest photos - I'm sure she wore a white one sitting on the roof or whatever (with Ronnie) in the earlier photos
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Old 27-12-2016, 23:56
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They'll move to Ongar, never to be seen again as it's at least 20 miles from Walford and so impossible to ever visit friends and family from such a distance.
Roxy will spend her days and nights hanging round with the cast of TOWIE and end up the new wife of the bloke who owns Sugar Hut
District line to Mile End, central line to Epping and then a short cab or bus ride - Ongar might as well be Australia?

Surely it would be easier to get rid of Roxy and then Ronnie moves to Ongar with Jack and family post funeral off screen in Ongar. Why would they both leave at the same time otherwise?

It's madness to kill off Ronnie - as she is an iconic character.

Perhaps Aunt Sals wheelchair goes on autopilot and heads towards the water. They both dive in to save Aunt Sal - she swims to safety and they both get dragged down to their deaths as their hair extensions get caught in her heavy wheelchair.
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Old 28-12-2016, 01:54
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I dont see how they can't die, especially Ronnie, as there isnt any reason/storyline/motivation for them to leave and ditch Walford, so the only thing it can be is a shock death
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Old 28-12-2016, 08:43
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Well EE claim they've filmed multiple endings which it seems no one believes so if they go with their deaths then that proves everyone right. The signs at the moment seem to point towards them dying especially the way it ended yesterday with just lying on the floor. The fact it's leaning so far towards death makes me think there will be a twist at the end.
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Old 28-12-2016, 09:11
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Better that than the other way round - Roxy has always been the better character and better acted IMO - Ronnie has always been a bit boring and one-dimensional (again IMO)
I disagree - ignoring favourites or acting for a second, Ronnie is definitely the better 'character'. Roxy and Jack were created around Ronnie's character so when she left in 2011 it really showed how poor they both were on their own. Ronnie was the glue and the most important part of that triangle.

That's why if one has to die - it should be Roxy. Nothing to do with one deserving to die over the other but in terms of characterisation. Ronnie can 'replace' Roxy with Amy. She becomes protective of Amy.
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Old 28-12-2016, 09:14
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I'm thinking them being rumoured to die is a smoke screen to distract us from the fact it will be Lee who dies (by suicide).
No chance that Lee will die in the next few months. They could never explain Linda not showing up for his funeral.
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Old 28-12-2016, 09:23
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It appears that Max will play a part in Ronnie and Roxy's exits.
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Old 28-12-2016, 09:48
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Wouldn't bother me either way. Personally I always liked Roxy when Ronnie wasn't around, felt she could get on with her own life without her sister always watching.

I am not fussed they are leaving, if both stayed it would be the same SL all over again, Roxy would find a new bloke, Ronnie would object lurking around the corner watching them, new bloke doesn't like it,Ronnie warns him off, then threatens him, new bloke leaves!!!
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Old 28-12-2016, 11:02
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Better that than the other way round - Roxy has always been the better character and better acted IMO - Ronnie has always been a bit boring and one-dimensional (again IMO)
Agree. Rita's acting has improved down the years too, whilst Sam has become completely wooden.

I wonder if we'll hear Sean's voice...Rob always said he would return for Roxy's exit.
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Old 28-12-2016, 11:48
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I think neither will die and it will be Jack that dies in a twist we won't see coming!
This then later paves the way for Ronnie & Roxy to leave with the kids to start a fresh life away from the square together.
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Old 28-12-2016, 12:17
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cast list for 9th Jan now on BBC, no Ronnie, Roxy or Jack - but Amy & Ricky are on it - no Matthew - but not sure he's on it anyway, checked for last night, where he was in it, no Matthew. And it looks like Jack last appearance is 1st Jan as well
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Old 28-12-2016, 13:15
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if Ronnie - at least they can have a big drama for the custody of Matthew - Charlie coming back - battle with Jack - leaving Dot very unhappy etc. etc. etc.
What would there be to battle? Charlie is his dad his name is on the birth certificate.

If only Jack and Ronnie both die and Roxy runs away to find Charlie

I doubt Declan Bennett will be back though. Unless it has all been kept under wraps.

I do think Ronnie will die. Roxy not so sure now
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Old 28-12-2016, 14:11
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What would there be to battle? Charlie is his dad his name is on the birth certificate.

If only Jack and Ronnie both die and Roxy runs away to find Charlie

I doubt Declan Bennett will be back though. Unless it has all been kept under wraps.

I do think Ronnie will die. Roxy not so sure now
Jack would claim he's the only father Matthew has known for a long time etc. - and yes pretty sure too Ronnie will be the one to go.
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Old 28-12-2016, 14:20
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I've changed my mind so much but I think both will end up surviving, maybe faking their deaths in some way.

Red herring last night with the tarot card saying Roxy will die.
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Old 28-12-2016, 14:26
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Jack would claim he's the only father Matthew has known for a long time etc. - and yes pretty sure too Ronnie will be the one to go.
He's been back on the Square 9 months. It's not much of a claim.

If it came to it, I'd like to think Vincent would fess up about Ronnie forcing Charlie out of Matthew's life with the threat of violence or death. Jack and his piddling few months of playing daddy wouldn't have a leg to stand on.
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Old 28-12-2016, 14:51
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I dont see how they can't die, especially Ronnie, as there isnt any reason/storyline/motivation for them to leave and ditch Walford, so the only thing it can be is a shock death
They've already bought a house in Ongar so they have every motive to leave. I can`t see SOC killing off either and think there are lots of false leads about at the moment, Max's revenge being the obvious one when he's returned determined to ingratiate himself with everyone and will probably move in with Dot.
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Old 28-12-2016, 15:04
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I think neither will die and it will be Jack that dies in a twist we won't see coming!
This then later paves the way for Ronnie & Roxy to leave with the kids to start a fresh life away from the square together.
I really dont think SOC is capable of coming up with such a twist and keeping it under wraps.
There are some crazy theories in this thread but i really think its as we all have been told it is, they both drown in the swimming pool.
I cant see any other outcome which would make sense to what we know of the aftermath. Plus why would Glenda come back if they have both sod off somewhere else?

Also the tuesday episodes synopsis of ''one resident has to do the unthinkable'', its jack switching off Ronnies life support and her liver gets taken away. Its actually so predictable, too predictable, so predictable that it seems too predictable to be true! But thats the current EastEnders for you
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