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Old 27-12-2016, 21:06
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It wasn't all football matches it was just one game, Liverpool v Newcastle
That was the day she died. It was the Saturday of her funeral that the whole football programme was cancelled apparently
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Old 27-12-2016, 21:07
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But for some it really does matter, I remember when my first favourite singer died I was affected for several days, no I wasn't family or a friend but he had sung his way through my early teenage years and was barely a man himself when he hit a tree in his car. It can hurt when a celebrity dies.
Marc Bolan? I was devastated and still play his music and know far, far too much about him! So yes, his and David Bowie's deaths did affect me even though they weren't personally known to me, and Leonard Nimoy's death affected me too - he was "my" Spock and I was in his fan club for many years (in fact I met his son recently). Celebrities can affect us and their deaths affect us too
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Old 27-12-2016, 21:14
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Yes, agreed.

The last time I was moved to tears was earlier this year when I saw only 10 people had attended the funeral of an honest, kind and generous man whose son I went to school with and whose wife used to look after me when I was little. A lovely guy, but because he was quiet and unassuming and not particularly talented, he will be rapidly forgotten.

Now THAT'S ****ing sad.
Yes that is. One of the best films I've seen - in a quiet, underplayed way - is Still Life
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Old 27-12-2016, 21:24
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That was the day she died. It was the Saturday of her funeral that the whole football programme was cancelled apparently
The Football League programme was rescheduled the following day (and a few games the day before on the Friday). There was no Premier League games scheduled on the Friday as it was an international break. England didn't play until the following Wednesday.
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Old 27-12-2016, 21:25
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I wonder how many celebrities there are? I mean a rough figure, let's say in the West to simplify it.

Then again, how do you define celebrity? Half the time when someone posts a death, I've never heard the name or even recognise the person, but no doubt some people would.

How many people have to recognise you before you get celeb status? Seems even just appearing once on some reality show makes you a celebrity now, we have more celebrities than ever. It may seem like loads have died this year, perhaps because some were more well known, but considering how many celebrities there are, it's probably not that unusual.

To answer the question though, yes it sort of interests me. No, it hasn't bothered me so far, I get a sort of fleeting 'aww' feeling, but it's nothing major, but then I wasn't a fan of anyone who passed away this year, I'm sure it'd be different if say, I were a huge Prince fan or something.
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Old 27-12-2016, 21:29
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The Football League programme was rescheduled the following day (and a few games the day before on the Friday). There was no Premier League games scheduled on the Friday as it was an international break. England didn't play until the following Wednesday.
So the matches scheduled for the Saturday were moved because of the funeral then?
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Old 27-12-2016, 21:33
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The only time I've really been upset by a 'celebrity' death was when Petra the Blue Peter dog died when I was about twelve. I cried absolute buckets over that one, but was probably over it by bedtime. I had a bit of a sniff when space shuttle Mir went to the Great Scrapyard In The Sky too, but that was mostly because I often used to stand and watch with the kids out in the back garden whenever it passed over and was realising that they'd reached the age where they were losing interest anyway. I think it was their childhoods I was really mourning, and knew that at the time. Hearing that Red Rum had been buried at the winning post at Aintree made me well up a bit too - it was the thought of all those horses chasing dreams that had once been his while he slept on for eternity so close by that did it.

'Celebrity' people, though? Not so much. My eyes leaked a bit when Lynda Bellingham died, knowing that her last wish was for one more Christmas that she just fell short of getting. Mostly I just feel sad and sometimes a bit shocked when famous people whose talents have had a impact on my life die. We all have a side to ourselves that we keep private, and 'celebrities' are no different (why should they be?). Furthermore, many work hard at keeping up a public persona that keeps them in work (Ozzy could well have bit the head off a bat then went home to listen to The Archers with a mug of Horlicks. Unlikely, but we'll never know).

And that's my rambling point, really. We get the public face of the famous, never the whole thing, Something that's shallow and superficial in comparison to the person behind it. I don't really understand how mourning for that person by a public who never met him or her can be anything less than shallow or superficial too.

Meanwhile, it's been revealed today that a six-month old baby was murdered barely two miles from me on Christmas morning, presumably by someone that child was supposed to count on for comfort and care. This makes me sad too, not just for what that child was, but what what that child could have been. Maybe an inspirational musician, maybe a gifted actor, or maybe even someone who'd come up with a cure for cancer or any of the other ills that take 'celebrities' (and the rest of us) out before our time. We'll never know.

At least the famous people who've left us this year had a chance to use their talents to make a mark on the world. Simply being grateful to have benefited from that legacy and leaving the family to grieve instead of seeing to it that they're unable to get out of the front door due to masses of floral tributes and 'mourners' is probably the best way to thank them when they die.
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Old 27-12-2016, 21:34
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So the matches scheduled for the Saturday were moved because of the funeral then?
Yes - Elton John of course performed at the funeral and then was at the Watford (still our chairman at the time) v Wycombe game on the Sunday.

On a general point I feel sad for the family and of course the person who has died is a human like us all so deserves respect but I don't go ott.
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Old 27-12-2016, 21:34
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Yes, agreed.

The last time I was moved to tears was earlier this year when I saw only 10 people had attended the funeral of an honest, kind and generous man whose son I went to school with and whose wife used to look after me when I was little. A lovely guy, but because he was quiet and unassuming and not particularly talented, he will be rapidly forgotten.

Now THAT'S ****ing sad.
Same thing happened to me recently. I went to a funeral of a man I had grown up calling my Uncle. He was only a close friend of my grandparents and my mother, aunts and uncles had all grown up with him in attendance at every family event too, so he was more or less part of the family. He had no kids of his own and his fiance died when they were quite young and he never found another partner. His funeral had 16 people at it, 9 of which were from my family. It was horrible that such a kind, caring man, who had devoted his life to literally everyone else but himself, was seen off by barely anyone.

I'm not sure that journalism even exists any longer. I think it's all done by AIs trawling Tweets and those people on TV who say the news are all computer generated.
Journalism ceased after 9/11. Now it's just let's see who can scare the viewers the most and distort the facts the greatest. I can't even watch TV news anymore and haven't bought a newspaper in about 10 years because I just can't stomach the way news stories are twisted and full of speculation and fearmongering.

I think the one which affected me the most was Terry Wogan. I don't know why as I was never a regular listener to him on the radio. I just remember thinking that it was far too soon for him and there hadn't been any news that he was ill.

As a child of the 80s, George Michael did bring back a lot of memories of school discos. I know several women of my age who are devastated as they have lost the first person they ever had a crush on. I suppose it would be the same if us men lost Kylie.

I don't quite understand the Carrie Fischer reaction. She was in a famous 1970s sci-fi film and a recent sequel (which I haven't see yet) but I can't remember seeing in her anything else in the last 40 years and I wouldn't have recognised her from a photo.
I was in Cuba when Wogan died. I didn't even find out until nearly 2 weeks later as I had no internet there.When I got back I didn't know about it for ages because it had slipped out of the news by then.

I hated Star Wars, never like a second of it, but Carrie Fisher always amused me when she was on talk shows and the little parts she has played in various TV shows in recent times have always had me in stitches, especially 30 Rock, which I think she was only actually in 1 episode of, but it's still my favourite character from the whole show!
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Old 27-12-2016, 21:35
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The only celeb death that I've been sad about was Robin Williams
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Old 27-12-2016, 21:47
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That was the day she died. It was the Saturday of her funeral that the whole football programme was cancelled apparently
So the matches scheduled for the Saturday were moved because of the funeral then?
Yes, the matches were rescheduled not cancelled.
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Old 27-12-2016, 21:50
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The only celeb death that I've been sad about was Robin Williams
I was pretty gutted by Robin Williams' death, but then suicide is always much sadder than someone dying of age-related illness.
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Old 27-12-2016, 21:52
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I felt the same way about the mass hysteria. I also really resented the whole approach of the media on it, claiming the entire nation was in mourning. I hate it when people claim to speak on my behalf, especially those scumbags in the media.
Of course I find it sad to hear about these celebrities dying ... but mourning? Of course not. I did not know them and at the end of the day their passing is no more significant to me personally than the old man who died somewhere in hospital this afternoon.

The only times I have been a bit emotionally knocked by news of a famous person's death is Michael Jackson. I grew up watching and listening to him in the USA, was always in awe of his talent and was sad to see him go, like a part of my childhood. I suppose that's how other people feel about other celebrities.

And the whole thing reminds you of our mortality. Here one day, gone the next.
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Old 27-12-2016, 22:17
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Compared to the death of any of my family, or even my friends, they rank about 1 on a scale of 1 to 10
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Old 27-12-2016, 22:40
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They don't really affect me, although I do feel a bit sad when they show a tribute programme.
I can imagine I might feel something when the Queen dies. That will probably be because it will feel like the end of an era, I will lament for my lost youth and also it may bring back memories of my own parents' deaths. (Of course I may not feel that, I just don't know).

Some people seem to assume that people's reaction has to be solely about the death of that particular individual and therefore the reaction is over the top, but a famous person's death can stir other emotions too.
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Old 28-12-2016, 00:07
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None have bothered me too much yet but there's probably some to come
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Old 28-12-2016, 00:22
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None have bothered me too much yet but there's probably some to come
'Probably'?! I dunno, I reckon Sean Connery is immortal. I heard you have to remove his head to kill him for good.
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Old 28-12-2016, 00:25
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'Probably'?! I dunno, I reckon Sean Connery is immortal. I heard you have to remove his head to kill him for good.
Well, nukes could go off all over the shop and we all die at the same time!
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Old 28-12-2016, 00:54
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OK, so he didn't mean much to you, but he clearly meant a lot to others - which is why they're upset. Surely it's not that hard to understand?
It is hard to understand. If the person in question isn't a close relative or a close friend why would anyone feel such grief for them?
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Old 28-12-2016, 00:58
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My Facebook feed is full of people mourning over recent celebs who have 'tragically' died and comments such as "thank goodness this awful year is nearly over" etc...

I'm not a heartless or uncaring person at all, but to be honest I just don't get it. Take George Michael for an obvious example: I have nothing against the guy and some of his songs I quite liked. But his death has no impact on me and won't change anything about my life. I never met him, and he never knew I existed. If I had died, George would neither have known or cared (why should he?), so why would I be remotely concerned about his passing?

Not looking to be controversial or upset anyone here, but I'm just genuinely bewildered by the reaction of so many people when a famous person dies.

From a personal perspective, I too, cannot wait to see the end of this year, as it's been the worst in my life by far. But that's due to my own personal problems I've had and has nothing to do with things outside my control such as some singer/author/sportsperson/comedian dying or the result of some election or whatever.
I feel the same. George Michael's death has been headlining again and again.
Is it really that significant?
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Old 28-12-2016, 01:01
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It is hard to understand. If the person in question isn't a close relative or a close friend why would anyone feel such grief for them?
Have you 'grown up' with music or film that you identify with and which has informed your life even in a small way?

Did any song resonate with you when you were young? Did you cry over a lost love and play the same song over and over again?

Have you experienced the death, prematurely of someone that has informed your emotion life through the songs they made?

Have you admired and felt with someone who gave you pleasure but has lived a life of pain and died young?

All of these are reasons people feel sad, and shocked at GM's death, and for those of his generation we also identify with the hope of his youth and feel our own pain and mortality at his death.

It REALLY isn't that difficult to understand.

Unless you are very young, perhaps, or songs don't mean much to you, or both.
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Old 28-12-2016, 01:02
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'Probably'?! I dunno, I reckon Sean Connery is immortal. I heard you have to remove his head to kill him for good.
right we need to get hold of some of his immortality giving blood and pump it into Nick Cave immediately.
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Old 28-12-2016, 01:03
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I feel the same. George Michael's death has been headlining again and again.
Is it really that significant?
It is significant to those who feel it is.

And not to those who don't.

What artist's death would feel significant to you?
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Old 28-12-2016, 01:16
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Have you 'grown up' with music or film that you identify with and which has informed your life even in a small way?

Did any song resonate with you when you were young? Did you cry over a lost love and play the same song over and over again?

Have you experienced the death, prematurely of someone that has informed your emotion life through the songs they made?

Have you admired and felt with someone who gave you pleasure but has lived a life of pain and died young?

All of these are reasons people feel sad, and shocked at GM's death, and for those of his generation we also identify with the hope of his youth and feel our own pain and mortality at his death.

It REALLY isn't that difficult to understand.

Unless you are very young, perhaps, or songs don't mean much to you, or both.
It must be different views of how life is, I imagine.

I'm 46, have grown up with George Michael/Wham/Depeche Mode/ABC/The Smiths/Duran Duran/A-HA/Motorhead/The Stranglers.... pretty much any band you'd care to mention I and all my peers knew of and variously loved in my/our teens in the 1980s.

Some of those are dead now. Some are alive and continue (along with others) to give me absolute musical pleasure to this day, along with the dead ones.

Those bands/celebs are not my friends though - they know me as little as I know them. I respect them for their achievements, but if one of them were to die tomorrow, I would note them as a person who had achieved [song/songs/awards] but I would not mourn them as I didn't know them as individual people. They were just on the telly/on a stage/on a film as far as I was concerned.
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Old 28-12-2016, 01:18
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It must be different views of how life is, I imagine.

I'm 46, have grown up with George Michael/Wham/Depeche Mode/ABC/The Smiths/Duran Duran/A-HA/Motorhead/The Stranglers.... pretty much any band you'd care to mention I and all my peers knew of and variously loved in my/our teens in the 1980s.

Some of those are dead now. Some are alive and continue (along with others) to give me absolute musical pleasure to this day, along with the dead ones.

They're not my friends though - they know me as little as I know them. I respect them for their achievements, but if one of them were to die tomorrow, I would note them as a person who had achieved [SONGS/SONGS/AWARDS] but I would not mourn them as I didn't know them as individual people. They were just on the telly/on a stage/on a film.
So you never actually see them as people who've moved you by their work then? It's just 'what they've achieved' but not how they've pleased of affected or reflected how you feel?

Totally just interested here.
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