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EE why is max begging for forgiveness
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AshMan123
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“Why is it off topic? We've discussing why his children are expecting him to beg for their forgiveness and the history of their interaction is entirely relevant in my opinion.

Unfortunately not, no. Way too many long drives to do each day at this time of year to risk being over the limit or badly hungover.”

I mean the me asking if you had been on the pop was off topic
SULLA
27-12-2016
Max has to be forgiven for not warning Abigail about boys like Ben
Jimmy Connors
27-12-2016
I'd completely lost the thread of this whole storyline. I can't even remember the details of his departure.
vald
27-12-2016
Even Dot was giving him a lecture and condoning the fact that he went to prison. How could she compare it to her being punished for killing her own son. He was a completely innocent man...something not one person has mentioned except Jane and Ian in a roundabout way. I hope we haven't got another producer who thinks he can rewrite history and get away with it. I'm already spluttering over Sharon's vision of Phil.
kitkat1971
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Lizzie Brookes:
“To be fair, Max and Tanya were separated when Jack got together with her and if Max really cared about either of them he would have accepted them as a couple, not tried to frame Jack for attempted murder and tried to split them up. After all if it hadn't been for his affair with Stacey, he and Tanya would never have split up to begin with.”

No matter what the cause of the marriage breakdown, and I'm not arguing that he wasn't to blame, trying to kill your estranged spouse is disproportionate, especially on such a cruel way. That Jack wasn't horrified when he found out what Tanya had done speaks volumes about his character.

I would also argue that it wasn't acceptable to want to move the children to another country as Max had a right to continue to see them, again no matter what his relationship with Tanya other who was to blame for the marriage break down.
kitkat1971
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by AshMan123:
“I mean the me asking if you had been on the pop was off topic”

OH right.

Why would you ask? Has the predictive text, corrections gone odd? I'm using an unfamiliar tablet so might have done.

Just seen that is exactly what's happened!
lapetitepaumee
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by SULLA:
“Max has to be forgiven for not warning Abigail about boys like Ben”

You can't have forgotten this scene?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_ThEsqqnnk
AshMan123
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“OH right.

Why would you ask? Has the predictive text, corrections gone odd? I'm using an unfamiliar tablet so might have done.”

Very much so
johnboybetter
27-12-2016
I am so confused! But I am glad he is back
firefly_irl
28-12-2016
The moral compass of Eastenders yet again puts the innocent party in the negative light and everyone else (most of whom are deplorable) are cast as in the wrong. Like when is Abi gonna to get a beatdown, she's deserved a proper slap for years now.
LittleRedOrange
28-12-2016
The only thing that doesn't sit well for me with the revenge theory is Louie - Max is going to want to see his little grandson, eh? I'd have thought. But then maybe he's feeling too broken/angry to think much about that at the mo.
priscilla
28-12-2016
I don't get it, and it pissed me off. Abi going on about the stupid letter, forgetting that she lied to the police to get Ben out of prison just because Philth promised she'd be a real Mitchell.
Broken_Arrow
28-12-2016
Same old, same old from the boring Brannings. There was no good reason to bring Max back. He's just going over old ground for the umpteenth time. Boring actor too.
lloys-strachan
28-12-2016
Originally Posted by Jimmy Connors:
“I'd completely lost the thread of this whole storyline. I can't even remember the details of his departure.”

Agree with this and bored with Max already.

I see the actor is still swallowing his lines as if his mouth is full of marbles.
BlueEyedMrsP
28-12-2016
I missed a big chunk of Eastenders last year or year and a half as I was overseas.

Can anyone briefly tell me what Phil did, and Lauren and Abi.? And there was a reference to what Max did to Abi, humiliating her in public? I understand the Beale's were trying to protect Bobby, but the rest is a bit of a mystery.
Matt35
28-12-2016
Originally Posted by BlueEyedMrsP:
“I missed a big chunk of Eastenders last year or year and a half as I was overseas.

Can anyone briefly tell me what Phil did, and Lauren and Abi.? And there was a reference to what Max did to Abi, humiliating her in public? I understand the Beale's were trying to protect Bobby, but the rest is a bit of a mystery.”

Phil bribed one of the guys on the jury to get max sent down. He claimed he bribed him to get max off but that was a lie. Abi put her dad in the frame to get Ben off the hook. Lauren knew who killed lucy but kept quiet for Peter. Max told his solicitor about the fight abi had with lucy. They needed to create reasonable doubt in the jury's mind so the plan was make them think abi could just as easily done it. Max changed his mind though and not to but his solicitor ignored him. Max sacked him after that. Abi couldn't believe he'd do that to her. she was never gonna be arrested. It was just a tactic but clearly she's too stupid to work that out and the fact they wouldn't have even been in court if it wasn't for her.
BlueEyedMrsP
28-12-2016
Originally Posted by Matt35:
“Phil bribed one of the guys on the jury to get max sent down. He claimed he bribed him to get max off but that was a lie. Abi put her dad in the frame to get Ben off the hook. Lauren knew who killed lucy but kept quiet for Peter. Max told his solicitor about the fight abi had with lucy. They needed to create reasonable doubt in the jury's mind so the plan was make them think abi could just as easily done it. Max changed his mind though and not to but his solicitor ignored him. Max sacked him after that. Abi couldn't believe he'd do that to her. she was never gonna be arrested. It was just a tactic but clearly she's too stupid to work that out and the fact they wouldn't have even been in court if it wasn't for her.”

Thanks. Did Max do something to humiliate Abi, other than suggest she could have murdered Lucy?
Hanna_Yasmin
28-12-2016
Originally Posted by babelogue:
“It is puzzling isn't it.

As an aside, I'd forgotten how much I dislike Max and his permanently miserable face.”

I've never liked Max. Horrible character.
kitkat1971
28-12-2016
Originally Posted by BlueEyedMrsP:
“Thanks. Did Max do something to humiliate Abi, other than suggest she could have murdered Lucy?”

No.

Te humiliation, in her mind, is being accused whilst testifying.

Yes, Abis argument was aleays that Max was trying to ger her sent to prison and nobody ever pointed out that just because a Solicitor suggests something, the Police woukd still need evidence. They wouldn't just go "oh that makes sense. Let's arrest and charge her instead!"

Plus, they accused each other, durung live week, when on their iwn so surely she knew thatMax had genuinely believed she dud it and had been covering fir her at that point? And if he thought she'd done ut, he can't of!

Just thick.
sw2963
28-12-2016
Unfortunately his return resurrects the Lucy debacle
vald
28-12-2016
Originally Posted by BlueEyedMrsP:
“Thanks. Did Max do something to humiliate Abi, other than suggest she could have murdered Lucy?”

He didn't reply to a letter they sent to him on his release forgiving him.
Matt35
28-12-2016
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“No.

Te humiliation, in her mind, is being accused whilst testifying.

Yes, Abis argument was aleays that Max was trying to ger her sent to prison and nobody ever pointed out that just because a Solicitor suggests something, the Police woukd still need evidence. They wouldn't just go "oh that makes sense. Let's arrest and charge her instead!"

Plus, they accused each other, durung live week, when on their iwn so surely she knew thatMax had genuinely believed she dud it and had been covering fir her at that point? And if he thought she'd done ut, he can't of!

Just thick.”

I'm really hoping they are part of his revenge plan because I don't want to see them get away with what they did. For me it was worse than what Ian and Jane did so if he's gonna make them pay surely abi and Lauren should also.
babyegg
28-12-2016
I am shouting at the telly every time someone complains that Max has had the audacity to return to his home (no home, to be fair given that he has lost his house also).

What is everybody's problem? Max may have shagged half the square, but he never murdered anybody. I really hope that Max is just biding his time and is gonna screw everybody over good and proper.

As for Jack, there are no words for what a complete k**b he has turned out to be. Vile vile man. What did Max do to Jack during the Lucy affair? Nothing as far as I can remember.
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