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Old 02-01-2017, 21:26
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I like Jade! Made a few mistakes, but don't think she's racist.
You know she's dead right?
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Old 02-01-2017, 23:52
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Of course she wasn't racist in the true sense of the word, but sadly the world now ignores that definition.
i.e. if say, Jimmy Nail walked into a room and said "way aye, wheres me socks?" - and someone mocked his accent, everyone would have a laugh and not an eyelid would be batted, all good fun.

However, if a person of colour with a strong national accent came in looking for their socks, and anyone mocked their accent, they'd are pretty much the devil, and would earn a "wayciss" label for life.

Sad, sad, world.
Do you think that what Jade did was mock an accent?
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Old 02-01-2017, 23:56
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I remember watching the show at the time with a daughter, who'd been the victim of pretty grim bullying in school (and the repercussions are still evident, all these years later). I was interested in what my daughter would think.

She was adamant that Jade was no bully - she didn't warm to Shilpa, and neither did I.
Jade might not have been, but her friends Jo and Dannielle certainly were, and Jade seemed to be trying to impress them.
Jade was a bully in that CBB, in "Back to reality", and in BB3.

And I don't care how many people are "adamant" that she wasn't.

"Jade seemed to be trying to impress them"? No, if anything they were trying to impress her. There'd have been no bullying if Jade hadn't been in the show.
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Old 03-01-2017, 00:07
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The decline started with BB8. Despite some people on here thinking it was BB7 due to them putting evicted housemates back in, it wasn't. BB7 done extremely well ratings wise, as did the CBB that followed it which was the race row series. Despite the race row, viewers obviously still wanted more BB and were interested as the next series which was BB8 got the highest launch night ratings of any BB series ever. BB8 was a shambles though and the ratings started to decline episode to episode. It was impossible to get to know the housemates properly...a house full of women from the first night I think put a lot of people off, as did the drip feeding in of the male housemates. It was a shambles of a series. They could probably have won back the viewers, however the next CBB wasn't that great and the next civilian series which was BB9 was just average. BB8 was the start of the decline in popularity though.
BB7 did not do "extremely well ratings wise". It had what was then the ordinary number of viewers. BBs 1, 2, 4, 6, and 7 were all in the range 4.5 - 4.7 million as their series average. BB7 was at the top end of that, but that's still just getting the ordinary audience size rather than doing extremely well.

I don't know why you think "It was impossible to get to know the housemates properly" in bb8. I got to know them as well as in other series back then.

I also don't know why you think "BB8 got the highest launch night ratings of any BB series ever." BB7's first night had more (7.1m vs 6.6). BB5's had 7.23.

And if "the next civilian series which was BB9 was just average", then why didn't it have the usual 4.5-4.7 million viewers as its average? Instead, it had even fewer viewers tha bb8.
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Old 03-01-2017, 00:12
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Nah, not racist, even when she referred to her as Shilpa ****awallah. PC gone mad, nanny state, etc, etc.
Note how people avoid mentioning that one but repeat "Shilpa poppadom" as if that was the worst thing Jade said.
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Old 03-01-2017, 13:25
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Note how people avoid mentioning that one but repeat "Shilpa poppadom" as if that was the worst thing Jade said.

Clearly a dig at me so I'll clarify: I mentioned the poppadom word because that was an example of Jade taking a swipe at Shilpa's indian heritage.
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Old 03-01-2017, 13:49
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Clearly a dig at me so I'll clarify: I mentioned the poppadom word because that was an example of Jade taking a swipe at Shilpa's indian heritage.
It's not a dig at you.

It's a general phenomenon, seen again and again.

Perhaps it seems otherwise from your POV, but you don't stand out for me as a poster. I didn't even notice that you had made any of the posts in this thread.
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Old 03-01-2017, 14:05
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It's not a dig at you.

It's a general phenomenon, seen again and again.

Perhaps it seems otherwise from your POV, but you don't stand out for me as a poster. I didn't even notice that you had made any of the posts in this thread.

Well you always stand out for me. I've never seen the Confused emoji get used so much by one poster.
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Old 03-01-2017, 19:53
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Whilst BB8 was the first series to have significantly lower ratings than any of its predecessors, I do think CBB5 is the real root of the decline. For me, it no longer felt acceptable to say you loved BB after January 2007.
Yes, that is the point where people I knew stopped talking about Big Brother. Up through bb7, even people who didn't watch but knew I did would sometimes ask about it and be interested in some of what was happening.

Ten years since the start of the decline, how depressing
IMHO the decline began the summer before when they started putting evicted housemates back in and eligible to win.
The decline started with BB8. ...
The decline started after bb3. This is fairly clear if we look at the series averages for the odd-numbered years: they go down and down and down again, never back up.

That pattern is broken a bit by some of the even-numbered years, For some reason they held stead at bb2's level until the declining odd years reached the same point with bb7.

But though there is some up-and-down in the series averages, (1) they never went up two years in a row in all the C4 years, and (2) when they did head back up temporarily, it was always to a lower point than before.
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