DS Forums

 
 

Top universities "no-go zones for Jews" says Baroness


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 27-12-2016, 21:17
Pink_Smurf
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: London
Posts: 6,354

Some of Britain's leading universities are becoming no-go zones for Jews because anti-Semitism is so rife says the first ever higher education adjudicator. Baroness Ruth Deech said that institutions may be failing to combat hatred against Jews as they are "afraid of offending" their potential benefactors from Gulf states. Jewish students claim they have been verbally abused and even physically attacked. The acedemic community is at the forefront of calls to boycott Israel. Among Jewish students there is gradually a feeling that there are certain universities that you should avoid such as SOAS Baroness Deech said.
The rest of the article is quite interesting. There has long been animosity towards Jews from muslim students but it appears to be getting worse if this article is correct.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...ims/ar-BBxsNMp
Pink_Smurf is offline   Reply With Quote
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
Old 27-12-2016, 21:51
Dotheboyshall
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 9,313
Anti-Semitism is not rife at universities- to suggest so is alarmist and wrong
Dotheboyshall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-12-2016, 22:05
hufflestuff
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 1,428
hufflestuff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-12-2016, 22:13
MARTYM8
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 40,289
So the Government appointed adjudicator who presumably has done some research and has some evidence is definitely wrong because one student says so?

Maybe - maybe not?
MARTYM8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-12-2016, 22:52
TUTV Viewer
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Oxford
Posts: 5,305
Some of Britain's leading universities are becoming no-go zones for Jews because anti-Semitism is so rife says the first ever higher education adjudicator. Baroness Ruth Deech said that institutions may be failing to combat hatred against Jews as they are "afraid of offending" their potential benefactors from Gulf states.
Not a surprise.

Most people have seen the contorted faces of snowflakes marching through cities with the "No Cuts!" posters.
TUTV Viewer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-12-2016, 00:19
Keyser_Soze1
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: The Sixth Circle of Hell
Posts: 20,185
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-s3BsmtvBIi...heads+sand.jpg
Keyser_Soze1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 28-12-2016, 07:06
What name??
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 21,517
So the Government appointed adjudicator who presumably has done some research and has some evidence is definitely wrong because one student says so?

Maybe - maybe not?
No they are wrong because they are equating political antipathy to Israel to anti-semitism and that is plainly a lie and a political stance. It's like saying anyone who was anti apartheid hated all whites.
What name?? is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-12-2016, 07:15
What name??
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 21,517
So the Government appointed adjudicator who presumably has done some research and has some evidence is definitely wrong because one student says so?

Maybe - maybe not?
Baroness Deech may not have allowed Jewish students to speak for themselves, but we did: research earlier this year by the Union of Jewish Students (UJS) showed that overwhelmingly, Jewish students are able to freely express their Jewish identities however they like
One student - not. Tease arch by the UJS - yes.
What name?? is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-12-2016, 07:40
RobinOfLoxley
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Devon
Posts: 12,838
Universities have never been the same since the Mob was let in
RobinOfLoxley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-12-2016, 10:12
Pink_Smurf
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: London
Posts: 6,354
Pink_Smurf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-12-2016, 11:53
juliancarswell
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Just here, inside my head.
Posts: 5,279
I read about an unofficial experiment a couple of years ago ( no link sorry) at a uni where two students pinned flags to their door, one a Palestinian flag and one an Israeli.
The Palestinian was left untouched while the Israeli was torn down and left shredded outside the door by lunchtime.
juliancarswell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-12-2016, 11:57
CappySpectrum
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 1,976
Universities have never been the same since the Mob was let in
Since teflon Tony Blair wanted them all in?
CappySpectrum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-12-2016, 12:33
Ennerjee
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: London
Posts: 4,453
Since teflon Tony Blair wanted them all in?
Yes. And now we have "grajuates" who've been to "Younee" with useless degrees and massive debts.

There's a serious shortage of skills-trained people which is part of the reason why we have to attract immigrants who are skills-trained from the EU.

If I were cynical I'd suggest that Blair engineered this to further drive the British down towards increasing unemployability and encourage immigration to help create a future Euro-race within the next 50 years.
Ennerjee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-12-2016, 12:42
Girth
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 9,340
If I were cynical I'd suggest that Blair engineered this to further drive the British down towards increasing unemployability and encourage immigration to help create a future Euro-race within the next 50 years.
You'd have to be more than cynical. 'Pathologically paranoid and xenophobic' would be nearer the mark.
Girth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-12-2016, 12:45
What name??
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 21,517
I read about an unofficial experiment a couple of years ago ( no link sorry) at a uni where two students pinned flags to their door, one a Palestinian flag and one an Israeli.
The Palestinian was left untouched while the Israeli was torn down and left shredded outside the door by lunchtime.
And what does that have to do with anti-semitism? Those are political statements about nations not a race of people.
What name?? is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-12-2016, 13:21
CappySpectrum
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 1,976
You'd have to be more than cynical. 'Pathologically paranoid and xenophobic' would be nearer the mark.
Its cheap labour though.
CappySpectrum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-12-2016, 15:18
Pink_Smurf
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: London
Posts: 6,354
I read about an unofficial experiment a couple of years ago ( no link sorry) at a uni where two students pinned flags to their door, one a Palestinian flag and one an Israeli.
The Palestinian was left untouched while the Israeli was torn down and left shredded outside the door by lunchtime.
That doesn't surprise me unfortunately. I think there is a lot of anti Israel feeling among students and among the hard left.
Pink_Smurf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-12-2016, 15:39
jjwales
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 25,439
Universities have never been the same since the Mob was let in
The Mafia are now running our universities?
jjwales is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-12-2016, 15:41
jjwales
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 25,439
Not a surprise.

Most people have seen the contorted faces of snowflakes marching through cities with the "No Cuts!" posters.
What makes you think these protestors are "snowflakes"?
jjwales is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-12-2016, 15:41
Happ Hazzard
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Chesterfield, Derbyshire
Posts: 1,639
Don't understand at all so-called "liberals" who hate Israel when it is the only country in the middle-east where being "liberal" is even allowed. Try being gay in an of the other countries, or criticising the government, or the state religion.
Happ Hazzard is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 28-12-2016, 16:28
Ben_Fisher1
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,742
Maybe its not 'Anti Semitism' but just anger at what the Israeli state gets up to. Even victimised people can become the oppressors.
Ben_Fisher1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-12-2016, 16:36
Happ Hazzard
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Chesterfield, Derbyshire
Posts: 1,639
The Israeli state does whatever is necessary to keep the Israeli people safe and prosperous. Given that their neighbours have vowed to wipe Israel off the face of the earth and attacked Israel countless times, what else would you have them do? It is up to the rest of the Middle-East to move into the 21st century (into the 20th century would be a start for some of them) and give their people the freedoms that we in the West enjoy.
Happ Hazzard is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 28-12-2016, 16:39
Pink_Smurf
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: London
Posts: 6,354
Don't understand at all so-called "liberals" who hate Israel when it is the only country in the middle-east where being "liberal" is even allowed. Try being gay in an of the other countries, or criticising the government, or the state religion.
A really good point you've made here. You're right. I have a friend who lives in Israel and he's very happy there.
Pink_Smurf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-12-2016, 17:10
Ted Cunterblast
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 5,764
It's just a minor point I guess...but nowhere does the Baroness actually use the phrase 'no-go areas' in the quotes in the article.

Another one of those stupid, grossly overused and frankly always extremely suspect phrases that people like to throw around with no basis in fact at all.
Ted Cunterblast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-12-2016, 17:22
What name??
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 21,517
Don't understand at all so-called "liberals" who hate Israel when it is the only country in the middle-east where being "liberal" is even allowed. Try being gay in an of the other countries, or criticising the government, or the state religion.
There's a long liberal tradition of anti-colonialism and respect for people to chose the be liberated from colonisers much like what the Palestinians and Arab Israelis want.
What name?? is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 03:53.