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Why are Gay campaigners saying George Michael should have come out as Gay years ago
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owen10
27-12-2016
I heard on news today that Peter Satswell the well known Gay rights campaigner was saying that George Michael should have come out as Gay in the Eighties as it would have helped a lot of people with their sexuality. But he then says he knew it was tough to do that back then

Well im sorry but if George decided he was not ready at the time then it was his business. How come no one is having a go at Elton John not coming out at that time. He went to the extreme of getting married to hide his sexuality
ianradioian
27-12-2016
Its nothing to do with Peter Tatchell. It was his business, nobody elses.
Susie_Smith
27-12-2016
I thought he was bi? In any case it was not that clear-cut in Michael's case.

As the previous poster said, it is everyone's personal choice surely. No one should feel obliged to reveal anything about their personal life for the benefit of others unless they make a conscious decision to do so.
PoppySeed
27-12-2016
Peter Tatchell is such a bore I don't think I've ever come across a gay man who is so defined by his sexuality, it's like there's no other aspect to him.
Fairyprincess0
28-12-2016
Tatchell is an awful man.

However, you could argue that if george had been comfortble about coming out without having to troll public convenients. The tabloids would not of hung him out to dry.....
MagicCoppelia
28-12-2016
It is up to the individual when they come out or even if they come out. It is no-one else's business.
It is strange that people who happen to be gay often have to announce it when straight people never have to do that.
I mean you don't pull your parents to one side and tell them you are straight, do you?.

Maybe in the future we can be a little more open minded when it comes to people's sexuality at least I hope so.
Fairyprincess0
28-12-2016
Originally Posted by MagicCoppelia:
“It is up to the individual when they come out or even if they come out. It is no-one else's business.
It is strange that people who happen to be gay often have to announce it when straight people never have to do that.
I mean you don't pull your parents to one side and tell them you are straight, do you?.

Maybe in the future we can be a little more open minded when it comes to people's sexuality at least I hope so.”

It would have been better he'd have 'come out' like that, then him feel the need to secretly go around those public toilets, wouldn't it.

If you dont come out, dont people just assume your straight....
pearlsandplums
28-12-2016
Peter tatchell is vile. As someone else said, you'd think that's the only aspect to his personality.
He's a promo-sexual.

It's no one's business what your sexuality is. If you want to tell people fair enough, but if you don't that's up to you. I hate the phrase "closet case" as if you should be ashamed of not singing from the rooftops that you're gay.

And I say all this as an out gay man. It was like perez hilton outing celebrities. It's none of your damn business, and it's also not interesting.
Skyler_Wright
28-12-2016
Originally Posted by owen10:
“I heard on news today that Peter Satswell the well known Gay rights campaigner was saying that George Michael should have come out as Gay in the Eighties as it would have helped a lot of people with their sexuality. But he then says he knew it was tough to do that back then

Well im sorry but if George decided he was not ready at the time then it was his business. How come no one is having a go at Elton John not coming out at that time. He went to the extreme of getting married to hide his sexuality”

I listened to a full conversation Peter had on LBC radio yesterday about GM and it's the opposite of what you are saying.

Peter Tatchell is a legend, when he goes Britain will loose a great human right activist.
Alrightmate
28-12-2016
It's up to him, not somebody else.

It was reasonably obvious to most that George Michael was gay right from the very start.
I challenge anybody to watch their their first performance on TOTP for their first hit Young Guns and tell me that isn't about as gay as it gets.

There was no reason for George to publicly announce he was gay any more than it would be for me to announce that I'm straight. He had his own mind and shouldn't feel that he has to cow tow to the demands of some political activists.
He was gay, everyone fukcing knew it before they knew it, and when it was official that he was gay he probably became more popular than before. So in hindsight he probably made a sound decision to not feel it was something he should be compelled to publicly announce.

People can moan about what George Michael did or didn't do. But I believe that the important thing is that he was a huge success in his own right for being a talented individual not because of his sexuality. Which people accepted anyway.
He was an inspiration to people whether they are gay or not. People liked him for being him, not for what sexual identity he was.
blueblade
28-12-2016
It was his call when or if he came out. Nobody else's.
charlie1
28-12-2016
F**cking leave George alone now. All these parasites coming out and saying so many hurtful things.

They should stop and think how his family would feel at seeing the disgusting comments. Though, they're probably too dignified to comment.
barbeler
28-12-2016
I think it's because they have this need to express an opinion on just about every news item going.
Skyler_Wright
28-12-2016
I don't understand why so many people on here hate PT.

This happens in all the threads that Peter Tatchell's name is mentioned.

He is a great human rights activist and trying to do the right thing.
Rhumbatugger
28-12-2016
Because they want to JUDGE him, without thinking about his background or the historical context.

Makes me angry, because it's bloody stupid and unkind.

And at the end of the day, his bloody business.
Keyser_Soze1
28-12-2016
The obnoxious Tatchell has only one agenda - himself.

He and Diane Abbott should form a double-act because the universe would immediately form a micro-black hole to swiftly get rid of the ghastly event horizon of repulsiveness that would occur.
Rhumbatugger
28-12-2016
Originally Posted by Skyler_Wright:
“I don't understand why so many people on here hate PT.

This happens in all the threads that Peter Tatchell's name is mentioned.

He is a great human rights activist and trying to do the right thing.”

He didn't and even still maybe doesn't allow others their own freedom of will. Ignores their issues and problems and was only interested in his OWN agenda.

And he didn't and doesn't CARE about anything else.

That is not compassionate or empathetic, however 'right on' it may be.
MTUK1
28-12-2016
Originally Posted by owen10:
“I heard on news today that Peter Satswell the well known Gay rights campaigner was saying that George Michael should have come out as Gay in the Eighties as it would have helped a lot of people with their sexuality. But he then says he knew it was tough to do that back then

Well im sorry but if George decided he was not ready at the time then it was his business. How come no one is having a go at Elton John not coming out at that time. He went to the extreme of getting married to hide his sexuality”

He never said that at all. While I'm no fan of some of the things he says, he was in LBC the day George died. What he actually said was that he doesn't think anyone should be forced to come out. Unless they are homophobic and anti gay while being closeted. Whether you agree with him or not, it was a fair and measured response from him.
What name??
28-12-2016
It's hardly news that PT Is a parasitic prat who will stick his nose in anyone's business.
daziechain
28-12-2016
Originally Posted by Fairyprincess0:
“Tatchell is an awful man.

However, you could argue that if george had been comfortble about coming out without having to troll public convenients. The tabloids would not of hung him out to dry.....”

Really?! You don't think they would have hit on some other area of his life to attack? You have a different opinion of them than I do.
Tatchell is awful, I think he's probably responsible for harming the progress of gay rights etc as most people are allergic to anything that has his name attached to it. Horrible man.
jjwales
28-12-2016
Originally Posted by PoppySeed:
“Peter Tatchell is such a bore I don't think I've ever come across a gay man who is so defined by his sexuality, it's like there's no other aspect to him.”

He has actually campaigned on all kinds of issues, but is best known for his LGBT and human rights work, for which he should be commended.
jjwales
28-12-2016
Originally Posted by What name??:
“It's hardly news that PT Is a parasitic prat who will stick his nose in anyone's business.”

What a strange thing to say. It bears no relation to the truth.
jjwales
28-12-2016
Originally Posted by blueblade:
“It was his call when or if he came out. Nobody else's.”

Peter Tatchell did not say that GM should have come out as gay earlier. He wrote a very sympathetic article about him, including the following paragraph. (I've put the important bits in bold.)

Quote:
“This was also the era of Aids, which was often dubbed "the gay plague". Gay men were blamed for the deadly virus. Public attitudes became much more homophobic. Gay-bashings and murders rocketed. It was a fearful period to be gay, let alone a gay public figure. I wish George had come out then, as he could have helped counter that tide of prejudice. But I understand why he didn't.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-a7496321.html
jjwales
28-12-2016
Originally Posted by daziechain:
“Really?! You don't think they would have hit on some other area of his life to attack? You have a different opinion of them than I do.
Tatchell is awful, I think he's probably responsible for harming the progress of gay rights etc as most people are allergic to anything that has his name attached to it. Horrible man.”

What is so dreadful about him? He's done a hell of a lot for gay rights. The few who are "allergic" to him have either misunderstood what he's about, or are homophobes.
jjwales
28-12-2016
Originally Posted by pearlsandplums:
“Peter tatchell is vile. As someone else said, you'd think that's the only aspect to his personality.
He's a promo-sexual.

It's no one's business what your sexuality is. If you want to tell people fair enough, but if you don't that's up to you.”

You clearly haven't read or heard what Tatchell actually said. There's nothing "vile" about him.
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