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Old 28-12-2016, 20:22
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There is a forest in Japan where a lot of people go in to top themselves, theres regular patrols that go and pick up the corpses.

I'm sure with a bit of cash and some planning and valid passport you could leave the UK on a ferry or something like that all legit and then travel via rail services to somewhere that needs less paperwork and more dodgy officials who for a large slab of cash can make the paperwork official and thus settle down somewhere else.

It's probably not very easy but if you just fancy disappearing then it's doable as by the time people start searching you are so far ahead that its impossible to catch them as you could just take buses/taxi's/thumb lifts all which probably wouldn't be on cctv.
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Old 28-12-2016, 20:30
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Good thread.

Sadly, some may end up dead, or used as slaves, kept as slaves, some don't want to be found. Thankfully, many are ok and start a new life here or another country.

When people go missing, it is the fear of what has happened to them, or worse still, what is happening to them.

Should you decide to go walk abouts, PLEASE tell your loved ones at least once that you have decided to go and therefore not taken against your will/etc/etc
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Old 28-12-2016, 20:35
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There is a forest in Japan where a lot of people go in to top themselves, theres regular patrols that go and pick up the corpses.

I'm sure with a bit of cash and some planning and valid passport you could leave the UK on a ferry or something like that all legit and then travel via rail services to somewhere that needs less paperwork and more dodgy officials who for a large slab of cash can make the paperwork official and thus settle down somewhere else.

It's probably not very easy but if you just fancy disappearing then it's doable as by the time people start searching you are so far ahead that its impossible to catch them as you could just take buses/taxi's/thumb lifts all which probably wouldn't be on cctv.
If you are an adult and choose to leave, nobody can 'catch' you as it's your right to leave.
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Old 28-12-2016, 20:46
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They didn't change their clocks and got lost in the missing hour.
Happens every year.
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Old 28-12-2016, 20:49
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Some of them start over with false names etc. Its alot easier to disappear from the radar than people think.
Even with big brother watching?!
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Old 28-12-2016, 21:53
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I suppose it's a combination of outcomes: murders, suicides, voluntary disappearances, even accidents (people getting drunk and falling into canals, or hit by cars and landing in ditches, all that sort of thing ...)

I often wonder how many are found who refuse to go back or choose not to have their location disclosed. After all, if you're an adult I believe you can choose not to be found, so to speak (not communicate with those searching for you or not go back, if you're found by a charity or the authorities).
I knew a family this happened to. Their daughter went missing and left a note explaining she wanted to run away, but they still called the police (she was an adult in her 30s but had learning disabilities and they thought that she might have been kidnapped or coerced, etc.) Several members of the family are ex-police or Civil Service and I suppose they had contacts, they traced her in the USA not too long after this but she refused to speak to them and the local police said there was nothing to be done ...
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Old 28-12-2016, 22:11
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Some of them start over with false names etc. Its alot easier to disappear from the radar than people think.
Even if someone changes their name their NI number stays the same, surely the DWP could trace them, everybody either works and pays tax or claims benefits, we all show up on the system somewhere.
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Old 28-12-2016, 22:16
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Even if someone changes their name their NI number stays the same, surely the DWP could trace them, everybody either works and pays tax or claims benefits, we all show up on the system somewhere.
You're making the same assumption I did, that everyone does things legally.
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Old 28-12-2016, 22:22
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You're making the same assumption I did, that everyone does things legally.
And some of them go abroad illegally where they won't have an NI number. Also some of those reported as missing are likely to be in witness protection in which case they will have a new NI number ...
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Old 28-12-2016, 22:27
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Most of them go home fairly quickly
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Old 28-12-2016, 23:32
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I have a morbid fascination with this subject. I can spend hours looking at links from

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...d_mysteriously
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Old 28-12-2016, 23:45
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It amazes me that people can vanish for so long but then I remember people like Kelvin, who were missing for 5 days whilst they lay dead in a shopping centre service area http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/new..._inquest_told/

There are so many massive areas of undeveloped land in the UK were someone could be hidden, fenced off areas alongside railway lines for instance where a body wouldn't be found until the network is improved.

Look at April Jones, police hot on the heals of the murderer but the poor girl never found, presumed thrown into the river and fire at his home
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Old 29-12-2016, 02:05
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Reading about missing persons always makes me really sad. I can't imagine the torture of just not knowing what happened to them. The disappearance Ben Needham always stuck with me, he was close to my age and I remember seeing a photo of him on a missing board whilst on holiday. My heart just breaks for the poor families left behind always wondering.
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Old 29-12-2016, 08:44
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Reading about missing persons always makes me really sad. I can't imagine the torture of just not knowing what happened to them. The disappearance Ben Needham always stuck with me, he was close to my age and I remember seeing a photo of him on a missing board whilst on holiday. My heart just breaks for the poor families left behind always wondering.
I always remember Genette Tate. She was the same age as my brother when she disappeared and we lived on that side of Exeter. A month or two later we both cycled to Aylesbeare out of curiosity.

She has never been found but at least it looks like we know what happened to her. The D&C Police seem pretty sure. Still a confession and the body would have been better.
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Old 29-12-2016, 10:41
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I've just started reading My Stolen Life by Jaycee Dugard who was kidnapped aged 11 in 1991 and wasn't found until 2009 due to major incompetence by the authorities, I'm sure most people know the story but if not then here's some information about it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnap..._Jaycee_Dugard
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Old 29-12-2016, 10:57
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I moved back to London
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Old 29-12-2016, 11:55
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I always remember Genette Tate. She was the same age as my brother when she disappeared and we lived on that side of Exeter. A month or two later we both cycled to Aylesbeare out of curiosity.

She has never been found but at least it looks like we know what happened to her. The D&C Police seem pretty sure. Still a confession and the body would have been better.
I remember reading about that when Black died. Must be awful for the parents. The lack of confession and body just removes that certainty that they are never coming back, leaves a little room for hope and I think that is what makes it so tragic for me.
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Old 29-12-2016, 12:12
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"Last year more than 300,000 calls were made to police in England, Scotland and Wales reporting someone missing.

Almost two thirds of people go missing intentionally, but that doesn't mean they want to" http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/articl...-uk-every-year

I often wonder how many are found who refuse to go back or choose not to have their location disclosed. After all, if you're an adult I believe you can choose not to be found, so to speak (not communicate with those searching for you or not go back, if you're found by a charity or the authorities).
Even if you are under 18, the police will just notify family that you are safe & well, they cannot force you to go home.
They cannot prevent you from leaving home even if they are present at the time.

Adults can live wherever they wish & don't need permission to move on.

Many missing teens have family conflict, relationship breakdowns or simply don't want to abide by house rules.
There are those who have "fallen in love" & runaway, or have abuse parents, or who have been neglected.
Then there are those who are the victims of broken marriages or who don't wish to accept a new step parent...

There are numerous reason,s why people choose to leave home, many don't want to be found & those that are persuaded to return home, often go missing again for the same reasons.
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Old 29-12-2016, 12:32
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There was a programme on last year or before about missing people, the oddest one was of a young man gone out for the night and was on his way home and rang his mother to say he was on his way back, it was Manchester I think. There were cc tv of him and sightings but while he was speaking to his mother he suddenly started screaming and that was it, never got home, never found no clues. The really unsettling part was the screaming, it was a scream from someone who was absolutely terrified.
That sounds awful. and dare I say it but that sounds like he saw a crime being committed or encountered something not human.

I stand by my belief that when born every human should have some kind of gps thing planted somewhere random inside their body. They would be easy to find, and police resources could go to better use.
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Old 30-12-2016, 02:36
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Didn't one of the Manic Street Preachers go missing? I don't know anything about the case but seems really odd.
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Old 30-12-2016, 05:12
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Didn't one of the Manic Street Preachers go missing? I don't know anything about the case but seems really odd.
Richey Edwards disappearance. Dropped out, hit rock bottom then probably jumped into the Severn.
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Old 30-12-2016, 14:17
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I always wonder what happened to Andrew Gosden. It's obvious he set off to leave home deliberately, but what on earth happened to him after that? He was only 14 and only had about £200 with him. He bought a single train ticket from Doncaster to London (refusing a return ticket, which was a similar price to the single) and was last seen at King's Cross Station.

Despite nine years of appeals and searches, there have been no sightings since, nor any clues as to why he might have left.

I honestly hope he is ok, but if he is, then I wish he would find a way of letting his family know. If he isn't ok, then I hope the family will eventually have some closure. It must be hell not knowing.
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Old 30-12-2016, 15:18
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Think most are killed you can get rid of a body easy really ,there lots of places to hide one till it decomposes,
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Old 01-01-2017, 22:57
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I've just seen this one on the Beeb website and it's sort of a good news story.. She obviously didn't want to go home for Christmas but at least her family now know she is still alive.

Isabel Gayther: Missing student 'posts on Facebook'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-38442959
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Old 02-01-2017, 10:37
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Some will have been murdered and well buried by the likes of Fred West. It's likely there is at least one active serial killer in the country at any time.

When they are caught and you see the list of known victims and dates of the murders, there are gaps. There is no way that someone like that will murder 2 or 3 in one year and then nothing for years then a couple more. If the bodies are well hidden they won't be found.
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