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Old 28-12-2016, 19:50
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I was watching an excellent film today called Woman In Gold:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2404425/

It was about the return of this Klimt painting

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port..._Bloch-Bauer_I

In short, it was looted by the Nazis from a Viennese Jewish family and then displayed in the Belvedere Museum in Vienna.

Adele, the lady portrayed in the art work, wanted the painting to be gifted to the Belevedere if her husband (the owner) died after her.

Decades later, a reletive of Adele and her husband sued for the return of the painting to its rightful owner (played by Helen Mirren in the film) it was subsequently auctioned of for a world record price and is now in display in a gallery in New York.

It's great the rightful owner of this art work is recognised as such but it's quite sad and unfortunate that it's been taken away from the city it was created in, from a public museum accessible to the people of Europe and now privately owned and displayed in USA?

Is this an example of reparations failing - where the wishes of the most important person -Adele - have been ignored?
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Old 28-12-2016, 20:22
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Her wish, and her husband's, should have been carried out if there was proof that her and her husband wanted the painting to go to someone in particular. I suppose everything just gets ignored once very large sums of money comes into it.
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Old 28-12-2016, 20:30
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I was watching an excellent film today called Woman In Gold:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2404425/

It was about the return of this Klimt painting

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port..._Bloch-Bauer_I

In short, it was looted by the Nazis from a Viennese Jewish family and then displayed in the Belvedere Museum in Vienna.

Adele, the lady portrayed in the art work, wanted the painting to be gifted to the Belevedere if her husband (the owner) died after her.

Decades later, a reletive of Adele and her husband sued for the return of the painting to its rightful owner (played by Helen Mirren in the film) it was subsequently auctioned of for a world record price and is now in display in a gallery in New York.

It's great the rightful owner of this art work is recognised as such but it's quite sad and unfortunate that it's been taken away from the city it was created in, from a public museum accessible to the people of Europe and now privately owned and displayed in USA?

Is this an example of reparations failing - where the wishes of the most important person -Adele - have been ignored?
hardly worth watching now
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Old 28-12-2016, 20:33
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Her wish, and her husband's, should have been carried out if there was proof that her and her husband wanted the painting to go to someone in particular. I suppose everything just gets ignored once very large sums of money comes into it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repu...ria_v._Altmann

The complexity here was that Adele was not considered the rightful owner - her husband was and his estate was willed to Altman (Helen Mirren).

The movie makes it out as a great thing but I felt it a great shame that Vienna lost an iconic art work that was created there.
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Old 28-12-2016, 20:36
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hardly worth watching now
True story mate - Can't give spoiler warnings for history
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Old 28-12-2016, 20:55
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An awful lot of shit went on and is still going on. The survivors got a raw deal.
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