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Your post could be construed as incitement - just need to be careful what you post online sometimes.
I thought some would be intelligent enough get the difference between making someone pay for their wrongdoing as opposed to inciting violence against innocent people based on their religion/race/ethnicity. But you're right don't assume everyone is on the level. |
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The hand wringing, bleeding hearts will always find a way of defending and justifying this situation, then wonder why the referendum result was to leave this shambles.
I don't care where someone was born, if they commit acts of violence they need to be taken off the streets, no excuses for them. In this case deportation is justified, unfortunately we are stuck with our own criminals, I would be happy to boot them out and swap them with a law abiding person wherever they are from. |
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There was a horrific story in the British press recently of a teenage German girl who was raped and murdered by a teenage asylum seeker. However it's pretty dangerous to go down this route of reporting given the sheer numbers of people in Germany - 80m citizens and asylum seekers probably into the millions. Anyone could go searching for horrible criminal acts carried out by immigrants or refugees and be able to find them given the numbers of people. This type of reportage could nearly be seen as an incitement to hatred.
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Asylum Seekers In Germany Set On Fire Homeless Man
Such cowards, for seven people ganging up on one person. Luckily the homeless man was unharmed. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38448351 |
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Odd I do not remember you posting about the attacks including setting on fire of homeless people in the UK this year by UK nationals. Is it the attack on the homeless person that concerns you or just that the attackers were asylum seekers.
We have enough low life - we don't need to import more potential risks with out proper checks at all. When 75 to 80 per cent of said 'asylum seekers' are single young men aged 18 to 35 we are in reality talking about economic migrants - although you could use a slightly less polite term for young men of fighting age who should have been fighting and protecting their elderly parents and grandparents not fleeing to Germany. |
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The difference is the latter were imported - and didn't have to be there.
We have enough low life - we don't need to import more potential risks with out proper checks at all. When 75 to 80 per cent of said 'asylum seekers' are single young men aged 18 to 35 we are in reality talking about economic migrants - although you could use a slightly less polite term for young men of fighting age who should have been fighting and protecting their elderly parents and grandparents not fleeing to Germany. Total asylum seekers 1,322,825 of which 547,915 males aged 18 to 34. That is 41%. 2015 Germany Total asylum seekers 476,510 of which 180,105 males aged 18 to 34. That is 38% http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/...ppctza&lang=en http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/...TableAction.do |
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...young men of fighting age who should have been fighting and protecting their elderly parents and grandparents not fleeing to Germany.
Some people see war through the rose tinted spectacles of 1939-45 and fighting them on the beaches then imagine themselves in hero mode rather than grinding, bowel emptying terror and essentially trying to keep your head down and not die. |
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This post could easily be regarded as incitement to racial hatred or incitement to murder. Both of which are illegal. Your post has been reported to the mods and they will decide whether to report it to the police or not.
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Total asylum seekers 1,322,825 of which 547,915 males aged 18 to 34. That is 41%. 2015 Germany Total asylum seekers 476,510 of which 180,105 males aged 18 to 34. That is 38% http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/...ppctza&lang=en http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/...TableAction.do Sorry if I seem a little sceptical of the official stats! Most other sources put the number of refugees arriving in Germany at well over 1 million even up to 1.3 million - where did the other 600,000 plus disappear to in the official 'EU' numbers. More than half had no papers so they have no idea where in the Middle East or Africa they came from. Frankly until there are no elderly, women and young children stuck in refugee camps in Syria we shouldn't be prioritising any single young men at all for entry. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...many-may-have/ https://www.rt.com/news/333684-germa...appear-report/ |
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Ah, that old chestnut again! Why do people assume that the vast majority of young men anywhere would take up arms and die, because lets face it that's what they'd mostly do, caught between their own murderous government and hard-line nutters intent on stirring up religious genocide?
Some people see war through the rose tinted spectacles of 1939-45 and fighting them on the beaches then imagine themselves in hero mode rather than grinding, bowel emptying terror and essentially trying to keep your head down and not die. But I would like to think If my elderly parents or grandparents or sister or family members were at risk in a war zone or refugee camp I wouldn't run off and abandon them. That's of course assuming they all came from Syria or Afghanistan rather than were just economic migrants taking advantage of Merkel's generosity - a policy which she now seems to be backing away from on a daily basis, And when it comes to the crunch why are we letting in any single men when the elderly, sick, women and kids should be first in the queue. Seems a ceasefire has now been agreed in Syria between Assad and the rebels brokered by Russia and Turkey - one might ask where were Boris and Kerry. So These men should now return home - and work to defeat ISIS once and for all. |
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Somebody said hang them, is that incitement?
I thought some would be intelligent enough get the difference between making someone pay for their wrongdoing as opposed to inciting violence against innocent people based on their religion/race/ethnicity. But you're right don't assume everyone is on the level. |
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No one said war was pleasant.
But I would like to think If my elderly parents or grandparents or sister or family members were at risk in a war zone or refugee camp I wouldn't run off and abandon them. That's of course assuming they all came from Syria or Afghanistan rather than were just economic migrants taking advantage of Merkel's generosity - a policy which she now seems to be backing away from on a daily basis, And when it comes to the crunch why are we letting in any single men when the elderly, sick, women and kids should be first in the queue. Seems a ceasefire has now been agreed in Syria between Assad and the rebels brokered by Russia and Turkey - one might ask where were Boris and Kerry. So These men should now return home - and work to defeat ISIS once and for all. |
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You're the one who called for them to be set on fire. In this country, and in Germany, people pay for their wrongdoing by going to jail, we do not encourage mobs to set fire to people in revenge.
Especially when they have no idea or experience re what they're prattling on about
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If they were German nationals I would say they need to go to prison, as they are not I would say why should the German tax payer pay to put them on trial and then in prison, there is no excuse for what they did so they should be immediately deported , they bit the hand that was feeding them basically so they no longer deserve any help.
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If they were German nationals I would say they need to go to prison, as they are not I would say why should the German tax payer pay to put them on trial and then in prison, there is no excuse for what they did so they should be immediately deported , they bit the hand that was feeding them basically so they no longer deserve any help.
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If a asylum seeker set me on fire I would want them sent to prison for a long time not just deported. Well depending on extent of injuries I suffered I might want them set on fire but that would be illegal to do.
Far better to deport them - a one way flight to Damascus is a lot cheaper too. Then they won't be able to set any more Germans on fire. I expect we will just find out they have been let off with community service. |
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I wonder how the German media will spin this.
"Kind migrants help keep homeless man warm" . |
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There was a horrific story in the British press recently of a teenage German girl who was raped and murdered by a teenage asylum seeker. However it's pretty dangerous to go down this route of reporting given the sheer numbers of people in Germany - 80m citizens and asylum seekers probably into the millions. Anyone could go searching for horrible criminal acts carried out by immigrants or refugees and be able to find them given the numbers of people. This type of reportage could nearly be seen as an incitement to hatred.
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Ah, that old chestnut again! Why do people assume that the vast majority of young men anywhere would take up arms and die, because lets face it that's what they'd mostly do, caught between their own murderous government and hard-line nutters intent on stirring up religious genocide?
ie. They're happy to leave the very young, their grannies and mothers and sisters to be trapped beteen murderous government and hard line nutters so long as their own hides are saved. They cannot call themselves men. |
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There was a horrific story in the British press recently of a teenage German girl who was raped and murdered by a teenage asylum seeker. However it's pretty dangerous to go down this route of reporting given the sheer numbers of people in Germany - 80m citizens and asylum seekers probably into the millions. Anyone could go searching for horrible criminal acts carried out by immigrants or refugees and be able to find them given the numbers of people. This type of reportage could nearly be seen as an incitement to hatred.
I'm sick of idiots portraying MY country as a dangerous, hate filled place. It is no such thing. We remain one of the friendliest, tolerant and appealing countries in the world. |
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Are you implying that these crimes shouldn't be reported?
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It depends on the context. If the British tabloids are reporting attacks on German citizens by asylum seekers or immigrants and nothing else, then the suspicion would have to be that they are pursuing an agenda.
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The right wing press in the UK are indeed fabricating things to pursue an agenda, in the same way as the left wing press are creating scenarios where Brits are all now hateful racists who hate foreigners. That was the point of my post about Strictly's Gorka.
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A gang of white British youths set fire to and killed a rough sleeper near where I live a couple of years ago.
Their residence status, ethnicity and nationality were of no bearing to the poor sod who died. Or to any of the news organisations who reported it. That is how it should be. |
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It depends on the context. If the British tabloids are reporting attacks on German citizens by asylum seekers or immigrants and nothing else, then the suspicion would have to be that they are pursuing an agenda.
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