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Old 30-12-2016, 17:50
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Who would even watch these films with adverts anyway? Ridiculous.
People know that commercial breaks keep ITV and Channels 4 and 5 running and so they put up with them. Seeing these films on TV means not spending money on the cinema, DVDs and Blu-Rays. Furthermore, commercial breaks also give viewers a chance to make a cup of tea or go to the toilet without missing a moment of the film.
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Old 30-12-2016, 18:01
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A few will defend ITV whatsoever, but there are other threads complaining about exactly the same thing.
Who, exactly? Is this actually true or are you fabricating claims?
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Old 30-12-2016, 18:17
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The sooner ITV gets wound up the better.
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Old 30-12-2016, 18:52
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So after you were proved incorrect yesterday about Corrie being displaced, you've ignored what others have said and just gone off with the usual spiel. You clearly don't want a discussion.

As I was saying yesterday, you ignore what everybody has to say (as you've literally just done) and repeat the same old arguments. You've literally already made this post, why are you posting it again? A combination of trolling and baiting I suspect.
This is what this poster does - best (or worst) example being his endless anti X Factor posts including the infamous and totally irrelevant "comedy sketch" last year.

Well considering its nearly winning every slot against the BBC schedule this Christmas, I'd say its doing really well.

I notice despite your ranting about ITV showing The Lion King against Frozen on Christmas Day, you haven't mentioned anything about how well TLK did against the modern day animated film Frozen which didn't even av. over 5m.

Clearly its annoyed you that it did do well, and that when ITV compete with BBC1, they can pull in decent ratings on Christmas Day. ITV gave viewers another choice, and it paid off.

As you highlight here:

"I agree ITV is having a very poor Christmas most agree,. The Lion King whilst a good film was made in 1994, and shown on Channel 4 in July 2016. Frozen is the top grossing animation and first time on terrestrial TV and three years old."

I think in the grand scheme of things, ITV has had a pretty good Christmas and most of it down to their film choices.
You've nailed it there H! But are you sure you've got your figures right? After all this poster has told forum members elsewhere in discussions he has a maths qualification oh and a business degree...

I struggle to comprehend why it bothers you at all. From what I see, you're not a fan of Harry Potter or ITV so why keep banging on about it?

Also, have you completely ignored a lot of the points made previously in this thread?
You have not had the pleasure of his company while you have been away - see what you have been missing?
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Old 30-12-2016, 19:21
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This is what this poster does - best (or worst) example being his endless anti X Factor posts including the infamous and totally irrelevant "comedy sketch" last year.

You've nailed it there H! But are you sure you've got your figures right? After all this poster has told forum members elsewhere in discussions he has a maths qualification oh and a business degree...

You have not had the pleasure of his company while you have been away - see what you have been missing?
Don't forget asking university students their thoughts on X Factor and the telephone transcript at ITV, both highlights.

If the user in question actually wanted a discussion rather than mindless bashing of anything ITV there wouldn't be a problem. However, the user has proved multiple times they do not care whatsoever about actually discussing something, they just want to rant. Any mention of this results in being labelled a "stalker" by the user, even if I have merely commented in a thread they've posted in, having not even spoken to them!
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Old 30-12-2016, 19:58
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This is what this poster does - best (or worst) example being his endless anti X Factor posts including the infamous and totally irrelevant "comedy sketch" last year.

You've nailed it there H! But are you sure you've got your figures right? After all this poster has told forum members elsewhere in discussions he has a maths qualification oh and a business degree...

You have not had the pleasure of his company while you have been away - see what you have been missing?
I followed pretty much every single page of the ratings thread since I was away. So unfortunately I've not missed much, including that X Factor sketch...

Have leanings to BBC/ITV - that's not a problem. It becomes a problem when it completely dominates the discussion to the point all that happens is argument after argument. His posts are deliberately inflammatory, I can see that and so can others. He shouldn't be surprised if his posts generate the strong reaction that they do.

I remember when I first started posting on the ratings thread. My posts were repetitive and tedious looking back and other posts rightly called me out on it. However, instead of accusing them of making personal attacks and taking offence to what was being said, I set out to change it and improve the quality of my posting. I kind of feel that's what this poster needs to do.
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Old 01-01-2017, 13:34
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I enjoyed watching them all and I'm far from the biggest fan.

One point that has been overlooked - these films are not available on Netflix, Amazon Video, Sky Cinema etc. Unless you go out and buy them, ITV is your best chance of seeing them.

I didn't notice too many people complaining about BBC making a huge deal of their premier of The Winter Soldier, which has been available on Netflix for over a year.
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Old 01-01-2017, 15:03
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Very low ratings last night, seems many have given up now,
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Old 01-01-2017, 15:34
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Very low ratings last night, seems many have given up now,
Why would they give up on the last film?

Do you think it was more to do with the fact it was New Year's Eve or is that a logical explanation?
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Old 01-01-2017, 16:12
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I think thoose supporting the showing of HP films, are giving ITV a massive excuse to show these again, next Christmas in exactly the same slots.

End of year report for Christmas ITV:- Could do better.

Where was,
It will be alright on the night?
Music specials?
Comedy, sitcoms, - I include Birds of a feather.

It seems ITV did Christmas on the cheap this year.
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Old 01-01-2017, 16:33
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I think thoose supporting the showing of HP films, are giving ITV a massive excuse to show these again, next Christmas in exactly the same slots.

End of year report for Christmas ITV:- Could do better.

Where was,
It will be alright on the night?
Music specials?
Comedy, sitcoms, - I include Birds of a feather.

It seems ITV did Christmas on the cheap this year.
They did music specials this year. If they'd put out an It'll Be Alright on the Night special you'd be calling them lazy.

ITV put out a lot of new programming last Christmas and I don't remember you praising that schedule. Most of those shows flopped and obviously they've not tried it again.

I still don't get your obsession with ITV showing Harry Potter. It seems it's only you who takes a real issue with it.
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Old 01-01-2017, 16:38
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Enough is enough! Every bloody night a HP movie (and not so long since they were last shown). While I do get how popular the series is with a lot of people, is it not overkill subjecting the entire nation to this over such a condensed period? If I thought ITV would then rest them for a while I might just about accept it but you just know they won't.
Im suprised they didnt bother with James Bond.
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Old 01-01-2017, 17:15
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Im suprised they didnt bother with James Bond.
Bond was relegated to ITV2; but they may do a Bond fest next year.
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Old 01-01-2017, 17:39
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They did music specials this year. If they'd put out an It'll Be Alright on the Night special you'd be calling them lazy.

ITV put out a lot of new programming last Christmas and I don't remember you praising that schedule. Most of those shows flopped and obviously they've not tried it again.

I still don't get your obsession with ITV showing Harry Potter. It seems it's only you who takes a real issue with it.
It's 100% trolling now. It wasn't to begin with, but that's what it's turned in to. The user keeps repeating the same posts for no reason and refuses to discuss it. The user's posts aren't adding anything to the discussion.

The user's questions have been explained countless times, so why are they still being asked? You can't attempt to use logic and common sense.
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Old 01-01-2017, 17:45
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It's 100% trolling now. It wasn't to begin with, but that's what it's turned in to. The user keeps repeating the same posts for no reason and refuses to discuss it. The user's posts aren't adding anything to the discussion.

The user's questions have been explained countless times, so why are they still being asked? You can't attempt to use logic and common sense.
I agree. It's beyond tedious now and I really ought to bite my tongue.
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Old 01-01-2017, 18:03
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Well its rating better than specially commissioned programming last year and I would guess you didn't watch the dramas they showed last year, with no Harry Potter in sight.

The fact is, the films are delivering ITV a solid audience during the festive period, between Christmas & New Year when they usually struggle and ad revenue is low. Each film is delivery the biggest 16-34 audience of the night on any channel (1m last night 26% skew - TOTAl audience 3.8m). Its also running BBC1 close for their own programming.
Uhmm.....is that age or IQ you are talking about?....surely no-one over the age of 18 would really admit to watching this kids stuff, would they?!
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Old 01-01-2017, 18:15
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Uhmm.....is that age or IQ you are talking about?....surely no-one over the age of 18 would really admit to watching this kids stuff, would they?!
I agree.

Whilst HP is popular it's always been aimed at a teen market.

A few posters here " support" HP, only as it's on ITV, and get very very heated defending ITV, If BBC1 tried this stunt there would be outcry from the very same posters and additionally from the tabloids.

ITV can get 7 million with its soaps, far less with HP, and annoys its regular viewers. HP could gave been in, during the late afternoons.

It's interesting some posters are so passionate about HP, or defending ITV, but with a few threads on the same issue, I think the time has come to say no more reruns of HP at Christmas now. Maybe on a dedicated Sky channel, where thoose who love HP can pay to watch it.
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Old 01-01-2017, 18:44
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Uhmm.....is that age or IQ you are talking about?....surely no-one over the age of 18 would really admit to watching this kids stuff, would they?!
That's age. And it's a fact that people over 18 enjoy Harry Potter. There's nothing wrong with that.
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Old 02-01-2017, 22:54
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I agree.

Whilst HP is popular it's always been aimed at a teen market.

A few posters here " support" HP, only as it's on ITV, and get very very heated defending ITV, If BBC1 tried this stunt there would be outcry from the very same posters and additionally from the tabloids.

ITV can get 7 million with its soaps, far less with HP, and annoys its regular viewers. HP could gave been in, during the late afternoons.

It's interesting some posters are so passionate about HP, or defending ITV, but with a few threads on the same issue, I think the time has come to say no more reruns of HP at Christmas now. Maybe on a dedicated Sky channel, where thoose who love HP can pay to watch it.
Did you watch the dramas ITV showed last year at Christmas? Peter & Wendy, Harry Price: Ghost Hunter?

No I bet you didn't. I bet you wouldn't watch ITV, even if they had the best schedule on TV.

I said last year, when the expensive dramas ITV put out last year were all under 2m, they wouldn't invest as much in 2016. And look, it happened. But the bonus for them being, the Harry Potter films rated about 2m higher and won most of their slots.

I think the fact the Harry Potter films had such an impact on the BBC schedule, its really wound you up. And add to the fact, The Lion King dented Frozen.
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Old 02-01-2017, 22:56
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Uhmm.....is that age or IQ you are talking about?....surely no-one over the age of 18 would really admit to watching this kids stuff, would they?!
Age. Harry Potter is for all ages.
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Old 03-01-2017, 13:24
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I think those supporting the showing of HP films, are giving ITV a massive excuse to show these again, next Christmas in exactly the same slots.

End of year report for Christmas ITV:- Could do better.

Where was,
It will be alright on the night?
Music specials?
Comedy, sitcoms, - I include Birds of a feather.

It seems ITV did Christmas on the cheap this year.
Yes, how shocking that something that gets a commercial channel good ratings might possibly be shown again.
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Old 03-01-2017, 13:27
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Uhmm.....is that age or IQ you are talking about?....surely no-one over the age of 18 would really admit to watching this kids stuff, would they?!
Of course they would. They're family films for all ages.
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Old 03-01-2017, 13:33
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I agree.

Whilst HP is popular it's always been aimed at a teen market.

A few posters here " support" HP, only as it's on ITV, and get very very heated defending ITV, If BBC1 tried this stunt there would be outcry from the very same posters and additionally from the tabloids.

ITV can get 7 million with its soaps, far less with HP, and annoys its regular viewers. HP could gave been in, during the late afternoons.

It's interesting some posters are so passionate about HP, or defending ITV, but with a few threads on the same issue, I think the time has come to say no more reruns of HP at Christmas now. Maybe on a dedicated Sky channel, where thoose who love HP can pay to watch it.
BIB 1 - Care to share a link to these other threads?

BIB 2 - Not your decision thankfully

BIB 3 - Or maybe keep them as they are on the terrestrial channels as not everyone has, or wants, Sky and ITV keep getting good ratings for them.

Why is it so hard for you to process that people actually enjoy watching these films? Is you own self importance that high that you think 3-4 million people should be denied the chance to watch something they clearly enjoy just to satisfy your own selfish requirements?
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Old 03-01-2017, 16:07
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Age. Harry Potter is for all ages.
See that surprises me a little, because from what I've seen of them, they seem like kids films, but each to their own.

BTW, ITV overkill everything.

I also see BBC One slowly morphing into what ITV1 was ten years ago, so I think it's safe to say both channels are on the way down.

Ten years from now it will be Harry Potter and YBF repeats on ITV and Indiana Jones and cheap LE on BBC1, with EE and CS pulling in around 3-4m but still on every night of the week.
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Old 03-01-2017, 16:20
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See that surprises me a little, because from what I've seen of them, they seem like kids films, but each to their own..
Several of the Harry Potter films have a 12A certificate. As such, I would hardly calll them kids' films.
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