https://www.theguardian.com/politics...civil-servants

it is clear the UK has neither the skills nor the resources to proceed with Brexit .

How much more taxpayers' money should we waste on such a worthless cause ?

is anyone actually counting and reporting these costs ?

Let us hope the costs so far are published soon, in a Freedom of Information request, so that we can extrapolate the likely costs of this folly.

Even an article in the Daily Express (!) reported a 'top lawyer' stating that we might still be debating exit terms in 10 years !

Enough already with these lost 6 months, let us not throw good money after bad , and embark into a lost decade ... or possibly 2!

Its a load of rubbish. Just get out. Stop giving them money, stop free movement, stop it all. We could have been out within an hour of the referendum result. The problem is too many snouts in the trough.

We are a mature country with international obligations and significant interests to defend.

Frivolous statements such as 'get out in an hour after the referendum' are simply irresponsible.

Unfortunately it appears a significant portion of the voting population believes in such nonsense.

No.

But I do think the DS Politics forum faces a lost decade if it continues to suffer continuous daily spamming.

It's like Groundhog Day - every day.

Ummm... Lol?

Significant interests = snouts in the trough.

I don't have any "significant interests" in Europe. I just want out of the EU. We have no obligations whatsoever. The EU is a man-made construct, just get out and let them do their worst. We will come out stronger in the end, and the EU will collapse under it's own arrogance.

Given the debacle this little experiment is turning out to be , I find it unsurprising that you are reluctant to see Brexit being debated properly.

and the problem is , you are serious !

what about the fate of EU citizens here? that of British citizens in the EU ? the fate of passporting for the financial services industry (a major part of UK GDP) ? the fate of Nissan plants ? that of Nissan''s workers in Sunderland ? scientific cooperation ? University linkups ? etc etc

You may not personally have anything at stake but millions of your fellow citizens do !

LOL, it's already been debated in countless threads.

I am sorry if you are only beginning to realise that Brexit is a complex, multi-faceted issue.

At the risk of being blunt, we Remainers told you so.

Which has been addressed in multiple threads. However, starting another thread with the exact same issues isn't adding anything, but duplicating discussions over again.

Give them temporary resident status.

Not our problem, up to the countries they are in/the EU to deal with.

Up to people whether they want to use our financial services or those of other countries. Zero to do with the government. We should never have allowed financial services to become so dominant.


Up to Nissan. Close them, or keep them opening. No financial incentives should be offered.


Up to Nissan.


Up to the scientists. Nothing is preventing them from communicating and sharing ideas with scientists in other countries, or visiting other countries.


Treat EU universities the same as Universities in non-EU countries such as the US, Canada etc. It really isn't a major concern.


Obviously not that many millions or remain would have won. Most people don't care about the EU, or actively dislike it. Most of the ardent remainers are people with their snouts in the EU trough.

which thread is debating whether the administrative costs of Brexit are properly being reported and explained to the public please ?

We voted to leave, and leave is what we should be doing, and proto.

Someone discussed this in the Brexit Armageddon thread, all the way back in September-

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...php?p=83912830

Sure, i'll tell you what though: let us get the people who voted for this debacle to pay for its costs.

Agreed ?

here are a few suggestions to raise the money to fund that Brexit thing:

- cut pensions. abolish triple lock 'pronto' to start with.

- cut benefits. the low-skilled:/unskilled will soon have plenty of jobs with sll foreigners gone, right ?

- cancel free transport passes/ free TV licenses/ etc. needs must.

- make people pay for hip replacements / all non life-saving NHS operations etc .

- everyone to pay tax regardless of earnings, and raise the basic rate of tax. times are hard and we need the money for Brexit.

It's a nightmare but it's done now and we have to investigate more purposeful uses for our audacity.

I was banned at the time sorry.

None of which has anything to do with Brexit. These are UK government policies.

Besides, the whole point of the referendum was to get an answer, whether to stay or leave the EU. The answer was given by the general public, which should be honoured. Should a stay vote won, should we not have honoured the vote then too?

The result is finite and can't be over turned, as a result was produced. Only another referendum can produce another or same result. No government will go against the referendum and they aren't going to have another referendum. This is why Brexit will be carried out.

People have got rich through the EU while other people have suffered. The people that suffered have largely voted out while the people getting rich voted to stay. So why should the people that have suffered have to cover the costs of us getting out?

This is wishful thinking pure & simple.

Brexit is often described as a divorce.

You think an entire divorce could be done & dusted "within an hour"

If Brexit is a divorce, the marriage that preceded it is one of the most dysfunctional ones of all time. The EU have shafted us for 40 years, all we want to is keep what is ours by right, we aren't even asking for all the money back that we put in to keep the marriage afloat. Maybe we should do that.

This was all pointed oiut in the referendum campaign. For no good reason, a small majority decided to jump over the cliff. We are now stuck with falling.

The fact that we hadn't have the means to build a new set of global relationships, or that no one has any interest in making them better for us, doesn't make much difference to us- when the bottom of the cliff is hard and rocky anyway. We can't even fly around for a bit, waiting for the offending generation to die off, and a new referendum - the rocks are inevitable, when we sign the letter, and jump.

You under-estimate the decade wasted idea - the impact of a decade with less trade, and growth, continues therafter . If your economy is 10% smaller at the end of a decade, and even manages to revert to its former growth rate then, you are stuck with an economy thats 10% smaller than it would have been, for good. And during the decade when you have lower growth, the demand for more NHS spending clocks up another 40%, and the pensions bill goes up by another 25%, just to cover the rising numbers of pensioners, and your defence budget is smaller by whatever percentage your economy is smaller because its now linked to GNP. You can effectively say good bye to the NHS, the pensions triple lock, and any meaningful defence capability. And who says the economy will get back to its former growth rate, in a decade?

We will survive, and get through this, and will be stronger as a result.

We will survive & get through this.

We will also be poorer, weaker& bitter.