Originally Posted by Zaphodski:
“Pointing the finger at the claim on the bus really annoys me.”
Is that because you don't like outright lies being pointed out to you?
Originally Posted by Zaphodski:
“I don't see the PM acting outside of the law and I don't believe I'm alone in this.
I propose that in this case 'the law is an ass' as it is being used to circumvent the will of the people in this particular context. The law needs changing...”
Can you explain your legal background in thinking this, as you are obviously an experienced legal mind with extensive knowledge of parliamentary law?
Originally Posted by Zaphodski:
“Any thoughts on why Cameron didn't come out that morning and tell the worlds press that the referendum was actually advisory, he's considered the will of the people and has decided that in his view the UK is best served by remaining in the EU and hence it's business as usual?”
Because he's a sniveling git?
Originally Posted by Zaphodski:
“OK, so we move on to the method of withdrawal. Of course the referendum didn't give options for exit with plan A, B, C etc. as I hope all will agree that was totally unworkable. What is unambiguous about the result is that we are leaving. The campaign to stay heralded that if we vote out it would mean leaving the single market, financial turbulence mandating an emergency budget, plague of locusts.... And the majority of people still voted out. Out without conditions, out without delay.
I agree that the populous did not give the PM / government a blank cheque as I will be spitting feathers if any sort of freedom of movement of people is retained. So we leave asap, the government negotiate privately on a new arrangement with the EU and then when it believes that it has it's best deal presents it to Parliament for debate / amendment / ratification. What is not in the UKs interest is showing all our cards to the EU negotiators in advance by having Parliament debate every nuance of our proposals in advance.”
When was this plan agreed, if there were no plans on the table?
Originally Posted by Zaphodski:
“Can I ask, do you believe that the will of the majority of the people who voted in this 'advisory' referendum should be ignored?”
It shouldn't be, and it won't be. However, even though Brexit means Brexit and is red, white and blue, no-one actually knows what Brexit involves.
Originally Posted by Zaphodski:
“Do you believe that Parliament have the right to vote against the will of the people on this particular issue?”
They have the right to vote against an
advisory referendum, as it is only advisory. However, it is unlikely they will ignore the advice.
Originally Posted by Zaphodski:
“Doesn't matter what the government 'intend' to do if Parliament are allowed to vote on the issue and decide to vote against the EU referendum result thus triggering a constitutional crises.”
Do you think MPs should just hand over all decision making to May (who became PM on the say so of fewer then 200 Tory MPs) on everything?