Yes. We did all know it was advisory. But we also ALL knew that the result would be honoured, which in common sense terminology suggests that whatever the result, the mandate to carry out the result would be genuine. It is remainers who have since moved the goalposts.

Less of the generalisations please!

So, you're not that happy with a debating chamber being at the core of parliamentary democracy, I take it.

How can it be indefensible when uk parliament and uk courts are deciding things in the uk, i thought that was what it was all about uk parliament and uk courts taking back control from the EU so we were told. Some people are never happy

Old chestnut !!

Yeah, I know lots of outers don't like the court judgment, but I didn't know 'taking back control' had become an 'old chestnut'

Well, some of them perhaps.

Oh, that old chestnut

So amongst all the out and out lies the leave camp told and the 'apparent' lies that you claim remain told - you choose to believe that one. Bit selective to hold the government to that one isn't it?

Enemy of the people

No one has moved any gaolposts, It was the government which did not make it legally binding. So who has moved the gaolposts. Does it say anywere in the ref act 2015 that RP would be used to trigger A50, well not anywere that i have seen but if you can show me in the ref act were this is stated then ok

Well she was Remain herself as seen from her old Tweets though some seem to think she voted leave on other threads.

Gina Miller @SCMDirect for #StrongerIn

She was actually approached after speaking at a conference

After speaking at a Mishcon de Reya diversity seminar in late June, she was approached by a partner at the law firm about bringing an Article 50 legal challenge. “Next morning I was in their office for five hours,” she said

A bit about her and hubby ( he isn't too popular )

http://moneyweek.com/interview-the-t...-miller-60934/

At least I suppose Gina Miller is using lawyers with a bit more class than her husband did in his divorce

His lawyer famously argued that it would have been cheaper for Mr Miller to run his spouse of three years over in his car than pay the £5million settlement he was ordered to. He eventually appealed the ruling in the House of Lords, but was unsuccessful

No one will really know her motives apart from her, we can just guess if they are wanting to see a correct process or hoping it will derail our exit.

Who are ? parliament the courts ? come on who

So, you believe the result should be honoured, but ONLY if Remain had won?

Has something changed over Xmas. Is the result now not going to be honoured?

The result will be honoured.

The childish and spiteful attacks on this woman should be condemned by all sides. She has every right to ask the courts to decide if May can use RP to trigger A50.

And Gina Miller herself has said the law need changing so that referendum results need to be legally binding, but that is up to parliament to sort out, if that was done in the first place we might not be were we are now, so it all falls back on governments and parliament. not on her and dont forget she is not the only involved in this but the courts have stopped other peoples names being released for safety reasons

You are right, I meant - most remainers in the country are perfectly able to sort out truth from fiction. There are some on DS will, apparently believe any old guff if it suits them. Obviously.

Better?


Of course I am. In this instance, however, the electorate spoke directly, through a referendum, to give the mandate to the Government to take us out of the EU.

I'm certainly not against any debate in Parliament. I just don't see how anyone, in good faith, can hand on heart say they believe Miller is doing it for any reason other than an attempt to derail Brexit.

Of course, remainers might really believe that is the motive. Who can tell? They believe the EU is democratic, after all.

There is a strange belief that Gina Miller, born Gina Nadira Singh - is only interested in stopping Brexit. I am sure she would be doing exactly the same had Remain won. She is a woman of honour, not a former model blowing the accumulated wealth of 3 marriages on changing a democratic result. In no way is she evil. She is actually doing us all a favour in that she proves anyone with enough money can change referendum results. Who really wants to live in a country where 'the people decide.' I mean honestly.. There is a reason we have Lords and Bishops and a plethora of university educated 'experts' making sure we make the right decisions. We are not ready for a total democracy yet. I remember someone quoting Assad years ago - apparently he said, 'Syrians are not ready for democracy yet.'

Brilliant.

There is also a reason we have laws.

I'm sure Brexiters hand on heart say they are doing it for the good of the country... Brexiters might believe that. Who can tell? They seem more obsessed with immigration than anything else.

Yes, we are doing it for the good of the country. Some leavers think uncontrolled immigration is a bad thing, so the two aren't mutually exclusive.

Obsessed with immigration? Or just against racism that allows potentially millions of white Eastern Europeans to enter our country without question yet restricts those of a different ethnicity entering our country because they are not European? Freedom of movement is disgusting. It is the one fundamental element of immigration that I object to, not immigration itself.

To be broken

I also think Gina Miller gets too much credit for halting Brexit. It was not just one South American who halted the process, it was two. Amazing - I wonder how many people now will call casual gossip in hairdressers meaningless.. it seems a hairdresser's outrage is stronger than the largest democratic result in the history of the British Isles. It speaks volumes of our society. All I know is I need a new hairdresser!

Deir Tozetti Dos Santos, 37, who works at a salon in Belgravia, was the first person to lodge a legal complaint against Theresa May’s plan to trigger Article 50 without a parliamentary vote. The whole case was actually titled: R (Miller and Dos Santos) v Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union.

Brazil-born Mr Dos Santos, who holds Brazilian and British passports and lives in Notting Hill, was not in court yesterday to celebrate the landmark victory with Gina Miller and fellow campaigners.